Parker Business Slow?

[Dave Noreen]

Is the Parker business so slow the Del Gregos are upgrading Fox doubles?

https://www.gunsinternational.com/guns-for-sale-online/shotguns/fox-shotguns/a-h-fox-f-grade-upgrade-12ga-30-ic-m-chokes-extractor-beautiful-delgrego-restoration-as-new-finest-restoration-lifetime-fox.cfm?gun_id=101870166

[Dean Romig]

I'd be very surprised if someone came up with documentation from DelGrego that they did the work on that one.





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[Brian Dudley]

I highly doubt it.

[Bill Murphy]

The metal work definitely does not approach F level. Nice gun though.

[Dave Noreen]

The stock checkering is sort of late-style DE-Grade, the engraving is sort of early Wayne & Bristol Streets D-Grade and the gun has been stamped D on the watertable.

[Larry Stauch]

Whoever did that work was very good at their business. That's just beautiful.

[Kevin McCormack]

I think we will be seeing more of this - sort of an indeterminate origin of wood / metal/ engraving & finishing amalgam by various (mostly unidentified) artists, all very good at their crafts. The finished products are a type of "chimera" which at once mesmerize and confound potential buyers: "Is it live, or is it MEMOREX"? In these cases, it provides to emulate the words of Marcus Aurelius, "In each and every individual thing, ask what is it in and of itself?"

[Brian Dudley]

Or it is much like so many guns that have been re-case colored, people just call it “turnbull”. When the gun likely has never been in NY State.

[Mike Koneski]

I'd like to have that horned frog figure. That is cool. Just sayin'.

[Daryl Corona]

I'd like to have that horned frog figure. That is cool. Just sayin'.

That goes with the gun. Just sayin'.

[Arthur Shaffer]

I think we will be seeing more of this - sort of an indeterminate origin of wood / metal/ engraving & finishing amalgam by various (mostly unidentified) artists, all very good at their crafts. The finished products are a type of "chimera" which at once mesmerize and confound potential buyers: "Is it live, or is it MEMOREX"? In these cases, it provides to emulate the words of Marcus Aurelius, "In each and every individual thing, ask what is it in and of itself?"

I agree with that. There are honestly very few shops that can do all the work at the very top level. I own guns I have purchased that are documented as done by one highly rated shop, and another that is completely documented as done by a different stockmaker, barrel guy, case color shop and engraver. All at the top level of reputation. I suspect that a lot of time, though, an owner shops it out and goes to one top guy and two or three average Joes. Guess who will be quoted in the ad?

[Alfred Houde]

Well, I wrote the seller and asked the following:

Hello, do you have any documentation that this restoration was done by DelGrego? I have only known them to work on Parker Guns and the Remington Model 32. Thanks in advance for any information.

And here is his reply:

Hi Alfred,
It’s assumed that the restoration was done by delGrego because of the colors. Honestly, I’ve no proof of this… it is very very good work. I will be changing the description to read this way… thank you ��

Wow. Just wow.

[Brian Dudley]

Exactly. And I would wager he was THINKING turnbull.

I would not say that Delgrego is exactly known for their case colors. Not in a good way that is.

[Mike Koneski]

Daryl, so I have to buy the gun to get the figurine then sell the gun to Tool Man and keep the frog? :shock: Asking for a friend.

[Daryl Corona]

Daryl, so I have to buy the gun to get the figurine then sell the gun to Tool Man and keep the frog? :shock: Asking for a friend.

Bingo!!

[Phillip Carr]

I’m with Brian. DelGrego only does the cyanide process.

[Dean Romig]

I’m with Brian. DelGrego only does the cyanide process.

As I understand it he will ship a gun out by request for a correct bone charcoal color case hardening treatment.





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[Phillip Carr]

Dean you may be correct but I once sent a GH 20 gauge to DelGrego for some work. They refinished the wood but told me they would only do Cyanide hardening.
When pressed for why I was told by Larry that there was to big of a chance to have the frame warp or crack. No offer to send out.
Possibly they do send out for bone and charcoal hardening but I was not offered this option.

[Brian Dudley]

Delgrego currently contracts case coloring to Turnbull. They have for the last 10 years (about)

[Phillip Carr]

Thanks Brian for this update on their case hardening process. The Parker I sent to them was an unusual VH 20 gauge straight grip with 26” twist barrels. It was before I retired and that was 10 years ago.
When I sent the gun to DelGrego I was told I couldn’t even send them the barrels as they didn’t want the Damascus barrels in the shop.
The wood was nicely redone. I never had it recased.
I don’t recall who I sold it to but it was one of our members.

[allen newell]

I seem to recall Lawrence telling me ten years ago when I visited the shop to drop off a Parker that they worked on Fox's as well.

[Craig Budgeon]

Turnbull, I know the engraver and i believe he said there is more than one.

[Gary Carmichael Sr]

Does Bachelder still do bone and charcoal? They did great work when Brad was alive, I have not had any thing to be done lately, so do not know if Parker is still doing as his dad did, gary

[Matt Buckley]

They have had a Parker Reproduction of mine to redo the case colors on for 4 years and I can't get them to get it done. I would be careful sending anything to them at this point.

[Brian Dudley]

It sounds like you need to demand the return of it NOW! in any state. Started or not.

[allen newell]

When I had Brad recolor one of my Parkers, I recall Brad telling me that he alone did the case colors in the shop based on his own recipe. Brian is right tho. If they have had a Parker for that amount of time without the requested work not yet done, it's time to call them and pull the order. Best of luck

[Matt Buckley]

I called and they are shipping my reproduction back to me next week. I am a very patient individual but my patients has run out.

[Dean Romig]

I had a gun with them for two and a half years for what Brad told me woukd be 6 months.
I ran out of of patience too.
We know that we are not their only customers and we don’t really want to push them for fear of them rushing our job and getting sub par work but two years is more than enough time for most any job. So I said I want it back… now.
They shipped it out but it went to the wrong address. I called and asked where the heck it was. They told me the address they sent it to… in Missouri. I live in Massachusetts and I asked them why it went to Mussouri and they said that’s the address I gave them…

Oh, incidentally, the job was done perfectly…





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