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Karl Ferguson
12-21-2021, 07:17 PM
Any advice on how to clean out a set of leaded 410 SxS barrels ?

I was told an Outers Tomlinson tool was very good but haven't been able to locate one to buy or borrow for 410 bores.

Any suggestions or leads on a Tomlinson tool would be appreciated.

Matt Buckley
12-21-2021, 07:28 PM
You might try a chunk of frontier pad wrapped around a .410 brush and powered by a cordless drill. A soaking of Hoppes benchrest solution, gunzilla, or ballistol and then a polishing with the frontier pad on the brush should clean up the bores pretty well.

Bob Jurewicz
12-21-2021, 07:29 PM
Karl,
Hoppes Tornado cleaners are still available. That is what I use. I thought I had a Tomlinson 410 but I do not.
Bob Jurewicz

Bob Hayes
12-21-2021, 07:37 PM
Here's one on eBay for a few bucks
https://www.ebay.com/itm/303863699230?_trkparms=amclksrc%3DITM%26aid%3D1110 006%26algo%3DHOMESPLICE.SIM%26ao%3D1%26asc%3D20200 818142401%26meid%3D0eff863149ec4c7f8e521dde591b0e9 9%26pid%3D101124%26rk%3D2%26rkt%3D12%26sd%3D154451 860897%26itm%3D303863699230%26pmt%3D0%26noa%3D1%26 pg%3D2563228%26algv%3DDefaultOrganicWeb%26brand%3D Outers&_trksid=p2563228.c101124.m2109

Karl Ferguson
12-21-2021, 07:40 PM
I should have mentioned that over the last three days I have tried everything that Matt has suggested without hardly any improvement. I haven't tried the Tornado cleaner.

Dean Harris at Skeet's said the Tomlinson tool has worked very well for heavily leaded barrels like mine.

Thanks

Karl Ferguson
12-21-2021, 07:42 PM
Thanks but that's just the brass screens... I would also need the tool they attach to

Joe Dreisch
12-21-2021, 08:19 PM
http://parkerguns.org/forums/showthread.php?t=30103&highlight=cleaning+kit

Dean Romig
12-21-2021, 08:29 PM
You might try a chunk of frontier pad wrapped around a .410 brush and powered by a cordless drill. A soaking of Hoppes benchrest solution, gunzilla, or ballistol and then a polishing with the frontier pad on the brush should clean up the bores pretty well.


My recommendation is exactly like Matt’s except don’t use a solvent. You don’t want to lubricate or protect the lead. The Frontier pad will not damage the bore at all but used dry it will make short work of the lead. Do it muzzle down over a sheet of white paper and watch the little pile of lead particles build up. I’ve done this very successfully.

EDIT: I was curious if any steel was being removed so I held a little pen magnet to the particles and absolutely nothing was attracted to the magnet.

Lead-fouled bores and chokes can destroy patterns.



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Bob Hayes
12-21-2021, 09:09 PM
Sent you a PM

Bob Hayes
12-22-2021, 04:33 AM
Karl see if you can get a picture of the inside of the barrels and post.I was wondering how much lead you were dealing with?

Thanks

Dean Romig
12-22-2021, 07:21 AM
I edited my previous post.





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Arthur Shaffer
12-22-2021, 10:39 AM
I once bought an old Kettner hammer drilling at Jaquas for almost nothing. The 9.3 rifle barrel looked like a third shotgun barrel with no visible rifling. (This was a 9.3x72 which was always loaded with lead bullets.) I plugged the barrel with a rubber cork, stood it on the muzzle and poured it full of a lead removal solvent. Left it about a day, emptied and cleaned, and the bore was literally pristine. That ws the most leaded barrel I had ever seen.

With the shotgun, the 45 pads would seem to be a good bet. That is one of the things they are designed to do.

Jeff Sweeter
12-22-2021, 11:04 AM
You might try a Lewis Lead Remover.They are used for hand guns but you might be able to attach to a longer rod for your application.Brownells has them in 41 caliber.Im sure other shooting supply centers carry them also.

Dave Noreen
12-22-2021, 03:50 PM
In this day and age are we really talking lead, not wad plastic build-up?

Dean Romig
12-22-2021, 04:13 PM
In this day and age are we really talking lead, not wad plastic build-up?


I "clogged" my barrels with plastic years ago from Skeet shooting but the lead fouling I referred to earlier in this thread was from previous owners shooting shells produced before the plastic shot cups were introduced.
The plastic was relatively easy to remove, though it was a repetitious job with a plastic solvent and a repeated bore brushing... but my bore brush really got clogged with plastic...





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Chuck Bishop
12-22-2021, 06:33 PM
Try a Frontier 45 pad or a copper wool pad wrapped around a bronze brush + oil. Hand scrub or chuck the rod in a variable drill.

Karl Ferguson
12-22-2021, 07:17 PM
In this day and age are we really talking lead, not wad plastic build-up?

This little Belgium 410 was made in 1931 and hasn't been shot in many many years. There was virtually no plastic build up but plenty of lead. I shipped the barrels to Skeet's Monday and Dean confirmed today the build up was lead. He will work on getting the bores clean.