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Karl Ferguson
11-08-2021, 08:10 PM
I would like to find a nice used 410 SxS to carry in my Ranger on the ranch to help me take back control of the commodity barn from the coons... :cuss: It would also give me something that my two young granddaughters could start learning to shoot with.
Just wandering from your experience which of the vintage American made guns would be a good one to look for... Lefever, Ithaca, Crescent etc ?
Any leads on one would also be appreciated
Thanks
Rick Losey
11-08-2021, 08:31 PM
if your not stuck on old makers , look at the CZ shotguns. i have handled a few and they seem a bargain for the price
Arthur Shaffer
11-08-2021, 08:33 PM
Not sure how good a 410 will be for coons in a barn. Ours are huge and hard to approach.
Buying any of the classics in 410 for a truck gun would be a frightfully expensive proposition, I think. There are tons of eastern european and other doubles in 410 that are cheap and wouldn't suffer much from having the stock cut off, which would be a given with a classic double.
I just did this for my grand kids (8 and 6). I ended up buying a really nice Turkish O/U in 410 that is made for a child, and a Mossberg pump with replaceable spacers and a really spongy thick recoil pad. It is adjustable down to about 11-1/2 inch pull with a short barrel. The O/U is about 12-1/2 inches. Young kids don't do well with womens guns. They are still too long and heavy.
The O/U was about $550 and the Mossberg about $340. I actually like the pump due to length and width, and throw it in the 4 wheeler a lot.
Karl Ferguson
11-08-2021, 09:25 PM
I prefer the older American made guns and just can't get interested in the newer Turkish made guns. I did have an AYA #3 boxlock for many years and really liked it.
The 410 is perfect for me because they are usually on the run when I see them...
John Davis
11-08-2021, 10:15 PM
Lefever Nitro Special.
Bruce Hering
11-08-2021, 11:51 PM
Lefever Nitro Special.
I'll second that one.
Bob Hayes
11-09-2021, 05:12 AM
Stevens can still be found for a few hundred $.I have a cz that is great and shoot it often.
Saw a sevens the other day for around $400
Victor Wasylyna
11-09-2021, 06:47 AM
Rock Island Auctions has a .410 DHE on the block on December 4th. I think it is just what you need.
https://www.rockislandauction.com/detail/84/1514/factory-engraved-parker-brothers-410-bore-dhe-grade-shotgun
-Victor
Larry Stauch
11-09-2021, 06:51 AM
Here are 605 to choose from.
https://www.gunsinternational.com/guns-for-sale-online/shotguns/shotguns-410-gauge.c849_p1_o6.cfm
Brian Dudley
11-09-2021, 08:11 AM
If you want a vintage gun, a Stevens/Savage/Ranger/etc… or a Nitro Special/Western Arms long range would be the most reliable and serviceable options. Economy offerings like crescents are just not worth taking the chance on unless they are in very good shape.
I am sure you want a double, but what about a single shot? Or even the stevens/savage 24? .410 over .22 cal.
Karl Ferguson
11-09-2021, 08:25 AM
If you want a vintage gun, a Stevens/Savage/Ranger/etc… or a Nitro Special/Western Arms long range would be the most reliable and serviceable options. Economy offerings like crescents are just not worth taking the chance on unless they are in very good shape.
I am sure you want a double, but what about a single shot? Or even the stevens/savage 24? .410 over .22 cal.
I have a single shot but would like to have that second barrel if needed...:)
George Davis
11-09-2021, 08:37 AM
We had a Remington single shot .22 smoothbore for a barn gun when I was a kid in south central Illinois. Shot bird shot (snake shot) and it was deadly, still have .22 bird shot in my truck.
charlie cleveland
11-09-2021, 11:05 AM
the stevens is a good choice..the side by side or as brian suggested a 22 over 410 is a good varmint gun...charlie
edgarspencer
11-09-2021, 12:47 PM
Around 1978, my dad was holding a NAVHDA field trial and forgot to bring a gun, so he ran into KP Firearms (Who remembers Jerry Kaiser?) and told him he needed something cheap that went bang. Jerry soldd him a Nitro Special .410 for $50. He grew to like it, and bought a better one. That fifty dollar gun sold at Baltimore a few years ago for $1600.
Jay Gardner
11-09-2021, 01:42 PM
Several years ago I walked into "Bob's Gun Shop" in Alpena, MI. Let's just say it's not your typical small town gun shop. Looking at the rack behind the counter sat a straight stocked, VHE in 410 with looong barrels. I ask the young fellow behind the counter if I could see the gun and he said, "sure" and as he handed me the gun he said "that's a pretty expensive shotgun" so, acting dumb (not hard for me to sound convincing), I said, "really?" The young man said, "yep, that one's $1,500." I ask if he would take a check and he got a little nervous and said, that he would have to call Bob and make sure. I suggested he check the tag and his face get's red. $15,000. Oops. I'm not sure I could have held a pen steady enough to write a check it he would have said, "sure."
Bob Hayes
11-09-2021, 04:32 PM
Guy at a gun show last week had a 24 in 22over410 for $600.
Bob Hayes
11-09-2021, 04:34 PM
Here is a photo from today.Snipe are here but not in great numbers but found a few to take home.
This is a CZ ringneck in 410 28"barrels.
todd allen
11-09-2021, 06:49 PM
I would like to find a nice used 410 SxS to carry in my Ranger on the ranch to help me take back control of the commodity barn from the coons... :cuss: It would also give me something that my two young granddaughters could start learning to shoot with.
Just wandering from your experience which of the vintage American made guns would be a good one to look for... Lefever, Ithaca, Crescent etc ?
Any leads on one would also be appreciated
Thanks
For that purpose, I would track down a vintage Stevens .22/.410 over under.
Bill Murphy
11-09-2021, 07:34 PM
Older Stevens 311 or Fox Model B, same gun, different name.
todd allen
11-09-2021, 08:01 PM
My Ithaca Lefever Nitro Express .410, with my 32" VHE field gun.
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Phillip Carr
11-09-2021, 09:32 PM
Clearly some $ spent upgrading. Looks great.
CraigThompson
11-09-2021, 10:19 PM
If it were me I’d forget the 410 and look for a 20 . Easier to find and usually less pricey even in the very utilitarian choices .
Stan Hillis
11-10-2021, 06:26 AM
Most of us who enjoy .410s for hunting have S X Ss in most of the other gauges as well. It's not always about what's the most efficient. People around here look at me like I'm crazy when I show up at a dove shoot with a .410. But, the truth is, with proper size shot, and appropriate loading and choke, it's a deadly little gun.
I carry a .410 in the truck around the farm often. Mine is so light it is truly a one-handed gun, if need be.
Good luck with your search, Karl!
Rick Losey
11-10-2021, 11:33 AM
did you see the one just posted in the for sale forum?
Karl Ferguson
11-10-2021, 11:39 AM
Thanks for the heads up Rick... I was able to buy a used Lefever Nitro Special yesterday close to home that will work for me.
Thanks for all the reply's
Mike Koneski
11-10-2021, 04:01 PM
I have a Western Arms Long Range and it is a great gun. I had a Crescent Arms hammer gun which was also a cool gun and it shot well. I had since sold it and use a Parker for those events. Can't go wrong with Nitro Special/Western Arms or a good condition Crescent.
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