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Craig Larter
09-13-2021, 05:21 PM
With 3 months to go I've had a great collecting year. Added to the collection, Parker DH 12/34 #3 frame damascus 1 of 1 from Josh, Parker 8ga/34" O grade came from Parker Board of Director Mike McKinney, Parker BH 12/30 bought back the Milo B Richardson gun from Mark Kircher (Long Story), Lefever EE 12/30 near mint from a well known collector, Sterlingworth 12/30" for a bad weather duck gun and a Remy Model 11 circa 1928 near mint.
Sold a Parker Grade 2 10ga very high condition, Fox AE 12/28" near mint, two Super Foxes, a 20ga Sterlingworth and a Parker D 10ga /36" on a #6 frame.
What about you??

Dean Romig
09-13-2021, 05:34 PM
Nothing….. so far.





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Bob Jurewicz
09-13-2021, 06:38 PM
Well, I owned a great BHE 12 GA 3 frame with 32" barrels and 3" chambers for a couple of weeks before a friend just had to have it.
Bob Jurewicz

Randy G Roberts
09-13-2021, 07:36 PM
Well, I owned a great BHE 12 GA 3 frame with 32" barrels and 3" chambers for a couple of weeks before a friend just had to have it.
Bob Jurewicz

I hope he becomes disenchanted with that one Bob and remembers me but the last time we spoke he seemed to have fallen in love with it. Dang the luck. It went to a good home.

Mills Morrison
09-13-2021, 08:02 PM
It has been a quality over quantity kind of year so far as well as a year to catch up on projects. The Africa safari took a lot of the budget and was worth every penny and more. I added a VH 28, a later Remington GHE 12 and now an early BH project which should turn out nicely. I think I have finally fixed my Super Fox trigger issue at no small expense. I got my low grade LC Smith hammer gun up to working order. I have culled some rifles and guns I did not need. My G 16 top action has been refreshed, except for the barrels which come next. Those are the highlights . . .

Bobby Cash
09-13-2021, 10:31 PM
Pre War Skeet, 20 gauge
Common thread, Josh

https://i.imgur.com/9UElz6g.jpg

CraigThompson
09-14-2021, 11:48 AM
Well lets see !

Picked up what I think is a rather nice DHE 20 30" at Sanford as well as a 32" SC .

At Hausemann's I picked up a Grade 2 top lever 12 32" .

At Koneski's I picked up a Remington 1900 16 26" .

And I'm in the midst of a selling frenzy . Cut out 6-10 rifles about 10 handguns a few shotguns and all of my percussion flint stuff .

And yeah I'm kinda in the market for a few shotguns with 32" barrels :whistle:

Mills Morrison
09-14-2021, 01:09 PM
With three months to go, the year is still young for many of us.

Craig Larter
09-14-2021, 05:29 PM
Mills your correct plenty of opportunities before 2022, Poulin's and Morphy's in November and Rock Island in December. Fall Southern and VC. Many opportunities to do some Christmas shopping.

CraigThompson
09-14-2021, 05:37 PM
Mills your correct plenty of opportunities before 2022, Poulin's and Morphy's in November and Rock Island in December. Fall Southern and VC. Many opportunities to do some Christmas shopping.

My intention for selling stuff now was to have a pocketful of cash for the Fall Southern but several folks have told me don’t expect to see much dealer stuff there :eek:

Bruce Hering
09-14-2021, 07:40 PM
Covid is at fault for me. I didn't have anything else to do while keeping myself and my wife away from people. I started the year with about 0 and wanted shooter guns.... That has changed to:

two GH 32" 12 gauges, one really pretty Damascus barrels and the other a GHE with Vulcan steel an sst and straight stock.

Then there was the 12ga. GH with pretty 28" Damascus barrels PG stock etc.

Then the Lefever EE Damascus 28" gun with great wood and straight stock.

Then the VH 20ga. with 30" barrels.......

Then a 12ga. G grade Lefever with what appear to be original 26" Damascus barrels....

Not in that order....

I lusted after Parker as a kid in the early 60's even though a friend of my Dad's lent me an Ithaca grade 4 gun to shoot. Now, at 75, I am filling my rack with the guns I wish I had.... 16ga. is next..... here go some more retirement $$$$$

This is an interesting thread by the way. I am so glad to be here.

Mills Morrison
09-14-2021, 07:48 PM
Once you embark down the rabbit hole, it is hard turning around. Another has caught my attention today, but we will see

Garry L Gordon
09-14-2021, 08:11 PM
Picked up several guns so far this year: a 16 gauge 4E Smith, a BHE Damascus 20, 16 GHE 0 frame, and a 28 bore MacNaughton round action. I also picked up some guns from the gunsmith, including an AH 16 (see my new album), a Grade 3 10 gauge with 32” Damascus barrels, a G grade 16 gauge hammer gun, and and a Trojan 12 with tight chokes. Alas, no guns left my safes. :crying::banghead:

Garry L Gordon
09-14-2021, 08:16 PM
Covid is at fault for me. I didn't have anything else to do while keeping myself and my wife away from people. I started the year with about 0 and wanted shooter guns.... That has changed to:

two GH 32" 12 gauges, one really pretty Damascus barrels and the other a GHE with with sst and straight stock.

Then there was the 12ga. GH with pretty 28" Damascus barrels PG stock etc.

Then the Lefever EE Damascus 28" gun with great wood and straight stock.

Then the VH 20ga. with 30" barrels.......

Then a 12ga. G grade Lefever with what appear to be original 26" Damascus barrels....

I lusted after Parker as a kid in the early 60's even though a friend of my Dad's lent me an Ithaca grade 4 gun to shoot. Now, at 75, I am filling my rack with the guns I wish I had.... 16ga. is next..... here go some more retirement $$$$$

This is an interesting thread by the way. I am so glad to be here.

Bruce, I wish I could figure out a place “between” us for a hunt. I’d love to see some of those guns.

George Davis
09-14-2021, 08:22 PM
2021 has been year about changing the "herd". I've sold seven guns with one more on the market (Browning Superposed) already this year and purchased only two. Bought back my octagon barreled 1893 Marlin 38-55, sold to a friend several years ago and regretted the decision almost immediately!! Added Ruger Mini-14 .223 for obvious reasons.
I hope late 2021 or 2022 to add three guns: 1. Mint condition pre-64 Model 70 in 7 MM (located working on the price) 2. Browning 725 Grade III/IV or higher with three barrels 28 gauge with 32 and 28 inch barrels and 410 with 30 barrel 3. Stephen Grant 12 or 16 gauge side-lever with 30 inch barrels.

PS: Could be a fourth if the gentleman storing my mint condition Lefever EE 12 gauge decides to sell. However if this happens one of my 12 gauge Parker will need to find a new address.

Bruce Hering
09-15-2021, 12:22 AM
Bruce, I wish I could figure out a place “between” us for a hunt. I’d love to see some of those guns.

Gary: If nothing else perhaps a meet up some where for lunch and BS and gun "show off's". Remember, I cant walk much....

Garry L Gordon
09-15-2021, 10:17 AM
Lunch, guns, and BS — sounds like a winning combination. 👍

Mills Morrison
09-15-2021, 08:18 PM
Not too pretty but a VH 16 with 26” barrels. Most likely uncut. IC/Full chokes

Bruce Hering
09-16-2021, 07:57 PM
Not too pretty but a VH 16 with 26” barrels. Most likely uncut. IC/Full chokes

Mills: I find it interesting that your 26" 16ga gun and my 30" 20ga gun have the same choke configuration. My letter did not specify choke did yours ?

I must admit, I feel this choke combination seems great for several different applications.....

bob lyons
09-16-2021, 08:20 PM
Interesting year, in that I was determined to sell off some guns and not add anything. But you know how that goes
First was a Remington era Parker skeet gun with great dimensions for me.
2nd was a model 21 skeet in 20 gauge also with great dimensions.
Model 12 trap model that was to cheap to pass up.
Marlin 35 1950’s with a great burled stock surprising for just a real working gun.
Winchester model 94 in 32 special always wanted one.
Winchester model 88 carbine in collectors condition couldn’t pass it up.
Lastly a nice model 12 16 gauge from phil carr on this site great shooter in very nice condition.

Mills Morrison
09-16-2021, 08:23 PM
Mills: I find it interesting that your 26" 16ga gun and my 30" 20ga gun have the same choke configuration. My letter did not specify choke did yours ?

I must admit, I feel this choke combination seems great for several different applications.....

The letter has been ordered as of today. Actually just corresponded with Mary in the last 10 minutes.

Rich Anderson
09-23-2021, 08:41 AM
I bought a Fox A grade 20 with 30 inch barrels. Best of all I have had a successful (so far) bone marrow transplant and a new immune system is being built up. 2022 looks much better:)

Dean Romig
09-23-2021, 08:44 AM
Rich - I am very glad to learn of your success… not the Fox, your health!

Onward and upward my friend!!!





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Randy G Roberts
09-23-2021, 08:55 AM
Good for you Rich. Glad to hear that things are looking up in the health department for you.

Reggie Bishop
09-23-2021, 09:43 AM
Yes Rich glad to hear the positive news!

Mills Morrison
09-23-2021, 09:45 AM
Didn't know you were ill, but glad to hear you are on the mend. Lots of health scares going around.

Rich Anderson
09-23-2021, 10:13 AM
Thanks for the well wishes. I'm not out of the woods but I can see the field:rotf: Chemo treatments are down to twice a month and I can skip October's treatment and spend the month chasing grouse in the U.P.:)

Daryl Corona
09-23-2021, 10:43 AM
So far this year I've added;

Lefever EE 12, straight grip, 30" fluid steel barrels
Ithaca NID field 20, 30"
Fox Sterlingworth Phila 20, 32"

Sold;

Win m12 20, 2 barrel set, first year of manufacture
Rem 1900 KED 16, 28"
Lefever G 12, 30" damascus

MARK KIRCHER
09-24-2021, 09:14 AM
Added this year or last
Parker “JN Young gun” (widgeon 2) #159075 – 32” DHE 1 frame
Parker 12 ga 1922 BHE 3 frame 32” with Ducks engraved on it – I have never seen another – lucky to have
Parker 28 gauge VH 26” –
Parker 1920 CHE 20 gauge 28 inch single trigger Acme barrels “Plausible”
Parker 1904 DHE 32” Damascus - round knob
Fox 20 gauge 32” sterlingworth 1 of 5 we know of – Not much condition but where are you going to find another one? Pairs with my 16 same
Fox 20 gauge 30 inch C engraved HE Superfox (1 of 1) – DGJ article forthcoming soon – duck blood soon to follow

In and back out –
Parker BH 12 gauge 30 inch Damascus –“Milo Richardson” gun mentioned above by Craig-

Sold
Parker 28 gauge 28 “ VHE – good friend had to have it.

Mills Morrison
09-24-2021, 09:20 AM
Wow! I think Mark may win the prize

Harold Lee Pickens
09-24-2021, 09:29 AM
I'll see you up there Rich, my son may come for a few days this year--his first upland trip.
As far as new aquisistions, only the project PH 0 frame 16 with the outstanding wood and Selous plates. Had it with me at the Vintagers, but didnt shoot it, was hoping to have the barrels looked at/measured by John Hosford, but he wasnt there. OK, here is a teaser pic.

Dean Romig
09-24-2021, 10:02 AM
I love (covet) that gun Harold!





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Mills Morrison
09-24-2021, 10:07 AM
Some great wood for a PH grade. Should be a lot of fun to carry in the grouse woods

Garry L Gordon
09-24-2021, 10:14 AM
I bought a Fox A grade 20 with 30 inch barrels. Best of all I have had a successful (so far) bone marrow transplant and a new immune system is being built up. 2022 looks much better:)

Great news! I hope this means "The Boys" will get lots of time with you this upcoming season. My best to you.

Dave Tercek
09-24-2021, 10:42 AM
This spring I bought a very nice William Defibaugh Bedford County percussion rifle , made in about 1885.
Recently, a nice little Ithaca ,grade 3, 20g from Josh last week. I wasn't really looking for one, but it was to pretty to pass up. I can't wait to see it in hand.

CraigThompson
09-24-2021, 11:34 AM
As far as new aquisistions, only the project PH 0 frame 16 with the outstanding wood and Selous plates. Had it with me at the Vintagers, but didnt shoot it, was hoping to have the barrels looked at/measured by John Hosford, but he wasnt there. OK, here is a teaser pic.

Your uhm "aftermarket sideplates" are a skoosh more artisitc than the ones on my two :whistle:

Harold Lee Pickens
09-24-2021, 12:59 PM
Mills, planning on taking it after grouse. It is choked 5 and 10 thousands. Currentl
y in your neighborhood on Daufuskie Island looking out over the bridge to Savanah having lunch

allen newell
09-24-2021, 02:54 PM
Nothing bought or sold this year thus far but I am thinking about selling a Trojan 20 ga w/26 inch barrels that I had Brad Bachelder do a total restoration some years back.

Rich Anderson
09-24-2021, 04:37 PM
Only 5 32 inch 20ga Sterlingworth's?? I know where three of them are:whistle:

Reggie Bishop
09-24-2021, 04:44 PM
I think it was supposed to be "only 5 32" 20 with ejectors".....but I have been wrong many times.

Craig Larter
09-24-2021, 04:55 PM
5 total known Sterlingworth 20's 32,'s, two with ejectors.

CraigThompson
09-24-2021, 05:59 PM
I’d be up for a PRE 1940 Sterlingworth 28 gauge with 30 or 32 inch barrels :eek::whistle::bigbye: And yes I’m well aware they didn’t make them then .

MARK KIRCHER
09-24-2021, 08:39 PM
Only 5 32 inch 20ga Sterlingworth's?? I know where three of them are:whistle:

Rich - You are surrounded by them - Mike Daryl, Me.......maybe more....but I am told
Mike's is the 5th.....???

Rich Anderson
09-25-2021, 07:38 AM
I guess I'll be content with the 30 inch A grade 20:rotf:

Russ Jackson
09-25-2021, 08:33 AM
Decided 2021 was the year to finally attempt to find a nice original 28 Ga. Skeet in Skeet Out Parker , so early in the year I sold a handful and seriously started to search dealers and web sites and lo and behold , one came up on Guns America ,I contacted the owner who said this gun had been in his family since 1940 ! We struck a deal and one more added to my small collection of Parker Guns !

Dean Romig
09-25-2021, 08:54 AM
A Wonderful Parker Russ! Can we see more of it? Straight grip or pistol grip?





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Daryl Corona
09-25-2021, 09:04 AM
The gentleman I bought my 32" SW from at one time had three. Mike got one, I got one and he kept one and was shooting doves with it this year. So that makes 4 that I know of.

Russ Jackson
09-25-2021, 09:16 AM
Thank You Dean , It is a Straight Stock ! I am very pleased with this gun and am looking quite forward to Woodcock and Grouse season this year !:) Here are a few more pics ! This guns serial# is in the 238 Thousand section of the serialization book where there is a list of what appear to be about a dozen or so Skeet configured guns , as a matter of fact Josh L has one advertised that I have been pondering buying just because of the serial number being so close to mine !

Daryl Corona
09-25-2021, 09:37 AM
That's just a wonderful gun Russ. Congratulations. I bet she sub 6 lbs.

Russ Jackson
09-25-2021, 09:52 AM
That's just a wonderful gun Russ. Congratulations. I bet she sub 6 lbs.

Thank You Daryl ,it weighs 5Llb. 12 Oz. On my old egg scale ! I have a foot release Clay thrower on my patio and the LOP is a hair long for me but I shoot it well when I am shooting these clays and standing flat footed and ready ,I am looking forward to seeing how I do on Grouse and Woodcock ! I'm sure the gun will do it's part the shooter is debateable at this point !

Dean Romig
09-25-2021, 10:50 AM
In the fall with thicker clothing it will probably be way too long for you. You can remedy this problem by shipping it to me…





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Russ Jackson
09-25-2021, 11:52 AM
Boy am I glad to hear that Dean ,I was wondering what I would do with it !:rotf:

Mills Morrison
09-26-2021, 02:24 PM
Well, the research letter on my VH 16 arrived. It checks out as mostly original, save the silvers pad. It was shipped to a Howard Perry in Greenville, SC, so a southern gun which is uncommon. 26" and 6 1/2 pounds

Craig Larter
09-26-2021, 05:38 PM
Mills nice buy. I bought my son a VH 16 ga 26 on a 1 frame. He took it to the Tug Hill today for grouse, 4 flushes but no shots, still too many leaves. They make a perfect upland gun not too heavy but not whippy. 7

CraigThompson
09-26-2021, 06:07 PM
Well, the research letter on my VH 16 arrived. It checks out as mostly original, save the silvers pad. It was shipped to a Howard Perry in Greenville, SC, so a southern gun which is uncommon. 26" and 6 1/2 pounds

Off the top of my head I have three that letter as originally sent to the south . My hammerless 8 to Florida , a VHE 12 26” to Georgia and a VH 12 28”n32” 2 barrel to Charlottesville VA about 25 miles from me .

Mills Morrison
09-26-2021, 07:28 PM
I have a few sent to the South. My other VH 16 with 26 inch barrels was sent to Atlanta, so this makes kind of a pair. Will have to try grouse and woodcock hunting up around Greenville now

Mills Morrison
09-29-2021, 03:05 PM
The BH arrived yesterday. A bit of a project, but should clean up nicely.

I really like the setter scene on the floorplate

Randy G Roberts
09-29-2021, 03:17 PM
The BH arrived yesterday. A bit of a project, but should clean up nicely.

I really like the setter scene on the floorplate

Alright, enough with the tease, what are we looking at here Mills :)

Mills Morrison
09-29-2021, 03:19 PM
A very early BH 12 gauge I won at auction. 56,xxx sn range

See if you can click and zoom in on the pics. Lots of gunk and rust

Randy G Roberts
09-29-2021, 03:26 PM
Good luck with it. Hopefully the bores are good, the rest is just character eh ..

Mills Morrison
09-29-2021, 03:29 PM
Bores are good, thankfully. Over 30 everywhere I measured.

CraigThompson
09-29-2021, 05:44 PM
Came into possession of a DH 16 yesterday . Gun has 32” barrels with 40 points each . Guns on a 2 frame as well .

Dean Romig
09-29-2021, 05:47 PM
Now THAT’S one to write home about!

What a gun!

I love those turnips!





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Reggie Bishop
09-29-2021, 07:50 PM
Nice Parker!

CraigThompson
09-29-2021, 09:00 PM
Now THAT’S one to write home about!

What a gun!

I love those turnips!
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If I can’t break targets with it , it may not be long in my accumulation .:whistle:

Craig Larter
09-30-2021, 06:16 AM
Craig now that's my kind of 16ga, congratulations. Just the way I like to find them.

Bruce Hering
09-30-2021, 12:44 PM
What a gun... It makes me wonder.... A 16ga on a #2 frame, with that much barrel thickness sure has to carry some weight. Why was it ordered that way and what was the original owner doing with it ? Waterfowl I would guess.

The many iterations of the Parker shotgun.

CraigThompson
09-30-2021, 12:59 PM
I shot the DH 16 32” 2 frame today and yes I can break targets with it . But I can’t play around with it , it’s choked tight enough that the A Game is needed especially on close ones . Anyway it’s staying for a few years unless of course they need to plant me . :eek: Now if I could find a VH/VHE or DH/DHE 20 gauge 32” F&F on a 1 frame dare I say with 2 7/8” chambers . But an 0 frame would be fine as well . Oh yeah failed to mention the 16 32” letters with factory cut 2 7/8” chambers which I find very odd .

Craig Larter
09-30-2021, 03:45 PM
Craig I bet there were a half dozen guys that were praying you couldn't hit the broad side of a barn with the gun LOL.

Dean Romig
09-30-2021, 03:49 PM
I was one of ‘em.





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charlie cleveland
09-30-2021, 03:55 PM
those 2 7/8 chambers were ordered for the 3 inch 16 ga shell shells made back when...charlie

CraigThompson
09-30-2021, 04:29 PM
Craig I bet there were a half dozen guys that were praying you couldn't hit the broad side of a barn with the gun LOL.

I’ve got a list of three or four . But the guy at the top of the list asked before I’d committed to buy the gun .

CraigThompson
09-30-2021, 04:31 PM
I was one of ‘em.

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You wanted it for collectibility not shootability correct ? Oh incidentally what are the “turnips” you made reference to ?

CraigThompson
09-30-2021, 04:35 PM
those 2 7/8 chambers were ordered for the 3 inch 16 ga shell shells made back when...charlie

This is only the third 16 that’s been brought to my attention having chambers for a 3” shell . And I heard about all of them in the last three months . Two Parker’s and a Smith . I wasn’t aware such a shell was ever manufactured.

Reggie Bishop
09-30-2021, 04:41 PM
There are a number of 20s and 16s chambered for that shell. I have owned both a 20 and a 16 chambered that way. Foolishly both reside elsewhere now.

:banghead:

Keith Sirmans
09-30-2021, 05:19 PM
The big paper shells shoot great in them!

Frank Srebro
09-30-2021, 05:36 PM
This is only the third 16 that’s been brought to my attention having chambers for a 3” shell . And I heard about all of them in the last three months . Two Parker’s and a Smith . I wasn’t aware such a shell was ever manufactured.

Here you go Craig. Both are vintage 16-gauge roll crimps and unfired, standard 2-9/16" on left and 3" on right.

Dean Romig
09-30-2021, 05:49 PM
You wanted it for collectibility not shootability correct ? Oh incidentally what are the “turnips” you made reference to ?


That long-legged beauty needs to have its business end trained on a turkey's head not lounging around in a gun safe.

The late EDM (Ed Muderlak for those who didn't know him) coined the term "flying turnips" for the engraved ducks on some Parkers that actually look a lot like turnips with wings. We see them on a few Meriden Fire Arms guns too.... likely the same engraver.





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CraigThompson
09-30-2021, 06:30 PM
That long-legged beauty needs to have its business end trained on a turkey's head not lounging around in a gun safe.

The late EDM (Ed Muderlak for those who didn't know him) coined the term "flying turnips" for the engraved ducks on some Parkers that actually look a lot like turnips with wings. We see them on a few Meriden Fire Arms guns too.... likely the same engraver.
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I seem to remmember having heard the turnip thing a couple times before but I was thinking it was in the scroll pattern some such way . As to Turkey I made my peace with them a few years back. But I’m not adverse to popping one while deer hunting if the opportunity presents itself .

Robert Brooks
09-30-2021, 07:16 PM
I know where there is one 32 inch 20 gauge ejector sterlingworth.Bobby

CraigThompson
09-30-2021, 07:45 PM
You know as I think back I believe 1st Sargent Mosteller told me he had a 20 ga 32” Sterlingworth . His brother got them all after Sarge passed and I know not whether he still has them .

kirbylawson
09-30-2021, 10:26 PM
Hi Craig.
Do you have numbers on how many 16ga 32" dlx sterlys were made?

-KL

kirbylawson
09-30-2021, 10:47 PM
Ejector

Craig Larter
10-01-2021, 04:54 AM
Kirby: No idea on either question. The AHFCA never had copies of the Sterlingworth factory records. A 16ga Sterly with ejectors is a rare gun.

Frank Srebro
10-01-2021, 07:35 AM
I know where there is one 32 inch 20 gauge ejector sterlingworth.Bobby

Bobby, it's probably not the same gun but a 20b 32" Sterlingworth Ejector was on a table on Thursday morning, first day of the VGC at Hausmann's, and one of the Fox guys scored it at about 10 am after X number of people passed by. I might add, just as I was getting to those tables. Nice gun and oh so very rare in Ejector form. Several of us Fox nuts looked at the gun and blessed it with no reservations. Happy day for the new owner, a good long time friend!

Robert Brooks
10-01-2021, 09:25 AM
Frank the one i know about was in Washington state but traded. Bobby

Mills Morrison
10-04-2021, 08:14 PM
Well, after much anticipation, my letter on my BH arrived today. Ordered by the Tuft Lyons Gun Co. of Los Angeles, CA. So . . . no one famous or even known at all. Oh well.

CraigThompson
10-05-2021, 01:25 AM
Well, after much anticipation, my letter on my BH arrived today. Ordered by the Tuft Lyons Gun Co. of Los Angeles, CA. So . . . no one famous or even known at all. Oh well.

Keep the faith ! Over time you may find owner number 4 or 7 or 12 may have been someone of note . Heck forty or fifty years from now someone just might say this gun was owned by a great attorney and author from Savanah !

CraigThompson
10-05-2021, 01:29 AM
Bobby, it's probably not the same gun but a 20b 32" Sterlingworth Ejector was on a table on Thursday morning, first day of the VGC at Hausmann's, and one of the Fox guys scored it at about 10 am after X number of people passed by. I might add, just as I was getting to those tables. Nice gun and oh so very rare in Ejector form. Several of us Fox nuts looked at the gun and blessed it with no reservations. Happy day for the new owner, a good long time friend!

Any idea what kinda numbers there were for the Fox graded guns in 20 gauge 32” ? And 16 gauge 32” ?

George Davis
10-05-2021, 08:42 AM
Deviated from my buy/sell 2021 plan. Last year I acquired a "mosquito trap machine" and found 2 full cases of mosquito clays on ebay. So I needed a .22 smoothbore, the Remington 510 Rangemaster (single shot) arrived last week. It's in "mint" condition, 4th of July of 2022 we hold a family shoot.
Parents and siblings over 14 will use the .22 smoothbore vs. younger grandchildren and great grandchildren with .410.
Winners will have serious bragging rights.

Garry L Gordon
10-05-2021, 08:59 AM
Deviated from my buy/sell 2021 plan. Last year I acquired a "mosquito trap machine" and found 2 full cases of mosquito clays on ebay. So I needed a .22 smoothbore, the Remington 510 Rangemaster (single shot) arrived last week. It's in "mint" condition, 4th of July of 2022 we hold a family shoot.
Parents and siblings over 14 will use the .22 smoothbore vs. younger grandchildren and great grandchildren with .410.
Winners will have serious bragging rights.

Now that sounds like good fun!

John Dallas
10-05-2021, 09:32 AM
25 years ago or so, Orvis was promoting a thrower which launched Ritz crackers. Pretty neat, except that many crackers were recovered intact with multiple holes in them. Al least they are cheaper than MoSkeetO's

Bob Jurewicz
10-05-2021, 10:14 AM
Scott,
Could you post a picture of your "mosquito trap machine"? I have a pair of Barrelette Adapters used to convert a 20 Ga S/S to use 22 shotshell for the game of "Targo".

https://www.gunsinternational.com/guns-for-sale-online/parts-ammo-accessories/barrels-barrel-inserts/barrelette-miniature-trap-skeet-22-cal-barrel-inserts-20-ga.cfm?gun_id=101416212&cdn_bp=1

Bob Jurewicz

Mills Morrison
12-01-2021, 11:23 AM
Well, my BH is back from the twin talents of Dave Fjelline and Breck Gorman. Took it on a pheasant tower shoot and got the first bird with the first shot. Went downhill after that, but still. Could not be more pleased with the restoration so far. Some new screws are in order at some point in the future. I do wish the records identified the original owner, but all we have is an order placed by S. A. Tucker and shipped to a Los Angeles store.

Craig Larter
12-01-2021, 05:39 PM
Nice gun Mills I really like early BH's. I've been looking for an early one in 10ga for years. Two great craftsmen doing the restoration.
Since my first post in September I have acquired a early 85xxx AH 12ga 30" straight grip that's been in a closet for decades condition. Nice as used condition that has never been touched, the way I like to find them.It was sold to duBray in 1897 for a reduced price of $200. Also a show gun Madison Square Gardens 1897. I also own a AH 10ga 1897 show gun, so they are together again.
I have one bid in for a non-sxs at the RI auction Saturday, fingers crossed. I also have an absentee bid in for a Lefever, fingers crossed.

Reggie Bishop
12-01-2021, 06:00 PM
AH sounds nice Craig. We like pics you know!

CraigThompson
12-01-2021, 06:10 PM
As the saying goes the year ain’t over YET :whistle:

Mills Morrison
12-01-2021, 08:58 PM
I have long admired the higher grade early hammerless Parkers and now finally have one. As Craig says, a 10 would be great. Jerry Smith had a 10 gauge AH years back that I would love to have.

Dean Romig
12-01-2021, 09:23 PM
Jerry Smith had a 10 gauge AH years back that I would love to have.


He had that one a long time... I think a lot of us know why.





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Stan Hillis
12-02-2021, 06:21 AM
Bobby, it's probably not the same gun but a 20b 32" Sterlingworth Ejector was on a table on Thursday morning, first day of the VGC at Hausmann's, and one of the Fox guys scored it at about 10 am after X number of people passed by. I might add, just as I was getting to those tables. Nice gun and oh so very rare in Ejector form. Several of us Fox nuts looked at the gun and blessed it with no reservations. Happy day for the new owner, a good long time friend!

Sorry to be late to the "game", but there were two 20 ga. ejector Fox guns with 32" barrels on Kirby Hoyt's table at the Bray's Island Exposition in April of '2018 or 2019, can't remember exactly which year. One was a graded gun and the other a Sterly. A friend in MS bought the graded one, but sold it last year, AIR. Both were in extremely nice condition. I wanted one very badly, but wasn't willing to pay the prices asked. It turned out okay, though. A year later I was able to buy my Parker DHE 16/20 two barreled set, both with 32" barrels, for considerably less $$$. Dove gun supreme.

Mills Morrison
12-02-2021, 06:36 AM
He had that one a long time... I think a lot of us know why.





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I think I have a picture of it somewhere. It was priced above my budget. I wonder if it ever sold?

Bill Murphy
12-04-2021, 10:34 AM
The Jerry Smith AHE 10 sold real cheap. I don't know why.

Dave Noreen
12-04-2021, 11:05 AM
Any idea what kinda numbers there were for the Fox graded guns in 20 gauge 32” ? And 16 gauge 32” ?

I went through the first 3000 20-gauge records and found 48 regular graded 20-gauges with 32-inch barrels. I need to look at those last 500 or so cards someday. While serial numbers go up to 203974, the cards are missing, or the guns never made, from 203241 to 203500. I also went through the 20-gauge Super-Fox guns and 26 of those were 32-inch.

Mike Koneski
12-04-2021, 11:13 AM
Let's see, for 2021 so far...
20g VH
16g VH
16g Trojan
12g VH
16g H grade Lefever
Ruger #1 .280 Rem w/ Leupold scope

Might have missed one or two.

This doesn't include any handguns or MSRs that I just REALLY enjoy shooting because all are welcome at "The Freedom Bunker".

Dean Romig
12-04-2021, 11:25 AM
The Jerry Smith AHE 10 sold real cheap. I don't know why.


It was worn to the extreme. That's why it languished for sale for such a long time at his asking price.





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CraigThompson
12-04-2021, 06:27 PM
Just picked up a DH 12 32” 2 frame straight grip no safety gun on Poulin’s . Left ME went to RVA AND NOW IS IN Charleston SC . Today I bought a DH 10 gauge on a 6 frame that was sold at auction as a 10 gauge and it’s in the book as something else . I hope my suspicions are correct , it has 34” barrels btw ! It also letters as something else as well .

CraigThompson
12-04-2021, 06:53 PM
Let's see, for 2021 so far...
20g VH
16g VH
16g Trojan
12g VH
16g H grade Lefever
Ruger #1 .280 Rem w/ Leupold scope

Might have missed one or two.

This doesn't include any handguns or MSRs that I just REALLY enjoy shooting because all are welcome at "The Freedom Bunker".

I’ve killed a pretty decent pile of deer with 280’s over the years . The first and my most fav was a Kimber 89BGR Super Grade . Got it at Fairfax R&GC it was AJ Beards and there on consignment . I later had a Ruger #1B that was roll stamped 280 REM / 7mm Express REM . Killed a few deer with it as well , but nothing like the amount of deer I did in with that Kimber .

Mills Morrison
12-04-2021, 07:11 PM
Good job on that DH! Like you said, worst case scenario it is a 10 or 12 on a 6 frame. Best case scenario . . . .

Craig Larter
12-05-2021, 06:12 AM
Just picked up a DH 12 32” 2 frame straight grip no safety gun on Poulin’s . Left ME went to RVA AND NOW IS IN Charleston SC . Today I bought a DH 10 gauge on a 6 frame that was sold at auction as a 10 gauge and it’s in the book as something else . I hope my suspicions are correct , it has 34” barrels btw ! It also letters as something else as well .

Craig do you to have a link to the DH 34 6 frame?? Thanks Craig Larter

Dave Noreen
12-05-2021, 01:46 PM
Late to the game on the long 16-gauge shells subject, but while the "standard" 16-gauge shell was 2 9/16-inch, they were offered in 2 3/4, 2 7/8 and 3-inch. Back in the day there was a series of articles by Gaucho of his trip through the south hunting with a 2 7/8-inch 16-gauge, but I have yet to see a box of 2 7/8-inch 16-gauge shells. This 1927 Peters catalog lists the availability of their High Velocity in 2 7/8-inch lengths --

101825

Here are various boxes of 3-inch 16-gauge shells --

101821

101822

101823

101824

CraigThompson
12-06-2021, 07:41 PM
Picked up my sixth humpback autoloader today and the fifth f the Remington ones . This one is an unadorned Model 11 12 gauge with a 42” solid rib full choke barrel . I think I need to be rid of the Browning A-5 standard weight 16 and the Remington Sportsman 20 . Then I’ll be down to a pair of 12’s with an extra barrel a 16 with an extra barrel and a 20 all Model 11’s :rolleyes:

Mills Morrison
12-06-2021, 07:46 PM
Nice snag Craig! I have a run of the mill A 5 12 gauge two barrel set. Every serious gun nut should have at least one.

Looks like 2021 is winding down fast. I am thinking there will be no more for me, but that is ok. It has been a quality over quantity kind of year.

charlie cleveland
12-06-2021, 08:11 PM
my kind of gun with a long barrel and a model 11 to boot



charlie

CraigThompson
12-06-2021, 08:53 PM
Nice snag Craig! I have a run of the mill A 5 12 gauge two barrel set. Every serious gun nut should have at least one.

Looks like 2021 is winding down fast. I am thinking there will be no more for me, but that is ok. It has been a quality over quantity kind of year.

I bought these things just to shoot at the Koneski shoot . Said something to the guy from Deep River when we were in SC about shooting old semi auto gun class at the spring Southern he “sounded” positive .

Breck Gorman
12-12-2021, 10:49 PM
I’ve been wanting a CH with Bernard barrels for years. Been looking and looking for a good one for a long time. All of a sudden, somehow, I have two now.

Craig Larter
12-24-2021, 10:55 AM
Last purchase for 2021 and last one for awhile. AH 12ga Straight grip 30" damascus barrels, 1897 Madison Sq. Garden show gun (in the letter but not listed in TPS) and sold to AW duBray in April1897. Sent back to Parker twice finally in 1907 to have a Silvers pad installed and some other minor items. The gun was very dirty and cleaned up but the barrels need to be restored by Breck. I did do some draw polishing on the barrels that's why they are white. Great engraving in my opinion. I will post pictures when the barrels are redone. Craig

Reggie Bishop
12-24-2021, 11:22 AM
Nice Craig! And a straight grip too! What’s not to love!

Garry L Gordon
12-24-2021, 12:04 PM
What a wonderful gun!

Mills Morrison
12-24-2021, 08:13 PM
Nice one, Craig! Those early high grade hammerless are special

Daryl Corona
12-24-2021, 08:58 PM
OH boy, straight grip and great engraving. Super nice Craig.
2 frame?