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Randy G Roberts
09-13-2021, 02:03 PM
An interesting twist on a CHE Roundel was recently listed on GI. I do not recall seeing a Roundel with that type of border previously. Nice looking IMO.
No need to sprint to your computers fellas, it's a 12 ga with 30" barrels with some issues :rotf:
Brian Dudley
09-13-2021, 02:08 PM
That one is a little different for sure. The trigger plate is just as interesting.
The V grade forend wood on it is a curiosity. From the poor fitment it looks like it is just a replacement from another gun. The barrels are Titanic though.
CraigThompson
09-13-2021, 02:34 PM
If it were 32” I’d most likely bite !
CraigThompson
09-13-2021, 02:34 PM
What’s a Roundel ?
Russell E. Cleary
09-13-2021, 02:47 PM
Craig:
The dog in the side panel engraving is circumscribed in a round "frame", not an oval. (as per initial post.)
Bruce Day post excerpt from a previous thread on this Forum :
''...Then only a small percent of C's made between 1900 and 1905 have rondelle side panels. I believe these were engraved by a single, unknown individual.
Some C's have rather standardized engraving, but from what I seen, when there are rondelle side panels the floor plate engraving will be unique to that gun...."
Here, thanks to Dean's recent post, is a photo of the oval "framing" of the dog engraving.
Brian Dudley
09-13-2021, 04:49 PM
Note that the gun pictured above is a D grade, not a C. Most “Roundel” engraved guns were C grades. But there are examples of B grades done in that style. As well as Double Roundel motifs. I recall even seeing a G grade Roundel once.
I personally attribute the influence for the design to be Loy.
Dean Romig
09-13-2021, 05:07 PM
And we have a member who beat me out on a Damascus 16 GH on Gunbroker 14 years ago that has factory roundel panels.
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Brian Dudley
09-13-2021, 07:41 PM
That was the GH that I was thinking of Dean. It is an oddity for sure.
Dean Romig
09-13-2021, 07:51 PM
Right abd it’s very likely to be one of a kind for a G.
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Stan Hillis
09-13-2021, 09:57 PM
Interesting. So, is the proper spelling of the term, describing this engraving feature, rondelle or Roundel?
Dean Romig
09-13-2021, 10:11 PM
Stan, I have always preferred rondelle and have often previously spelled it that way but others, as well as Dr. Drew Hause, seem to prefer roundel.
But on further investigation, rondelle is used in terms of a of a piece of cut jewelry whereas roundel is defined as "1. a small disk, especially a decorative medallion." from Google definitions.
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Randy G Roberts
09-14-2021, 06:49 AM
I believe that Bruce Day has been credited with coining the term Roundel to describe this variation of engraving. Bruce has always spelled it Roundel to my knowledge.
Stan Hillis
09-14-2021, 07:05 AM
Thanks, guys. I continue to learn about Parkers.
Dean Romig
09-14-2021, 07:40 AM
Thanks, guys. I continue to learn about Parkers.
As do we all. :)
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