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John Bastiani
09-08-2021, 11:09 PM
Does the Parker 16 ga. have much interest and a good following of buyers. It seems that they don't have the same desirability as the 20 ga. and don't move as fast when they come up for sale even though their probably more scarce than the 20 ga. I have never owned a 16 ga. in any shotgun but am looking at maybe purchasing a Parker 16 ga. and thought I better get some thoughts from some Parker people on the site.

CraigThompson
09-08-2021, 11:49 PM
Well I’ve got six I believe . Had to search awhile for my nicer VH 30” and the Grade 0 30” hammer . But I would think a 20 might be more desirable of pricey in the same condition as a 16 . I’m watching for 32” 16’s hammer and hammerless but someone told me 32” 20 was easier to find than a 32” 16 in the hammerless variety .

Alfred Greeson
09-08-2021, 11:58 PM
Seems to be more interest now. You may find a buy in a 16 from time to time. I have three and my 0 frame is really a great gun to carry and shoot. They were not sought after for a while and one of the Invincibles is a 16 and it bounced around for a time when no one was really interested in it I have read.

Greg Dennis
09-09-2021, 12:47 AM
I have recently purchased two, both VH . The first because it was so much more affordable than a 20. The second because I loved the first so much and it is on an 0 frame and 28” barrels. Quite a difference in the way they feel.
Thankfully I called my good buddy David Boyles and he said Yes, that is a deal.
I had her checked out today to confirm chamber measurements at 2 3/4” and find out what it was choked. Which I wanted to ask, what are the most common combinations. She is right.020 and left .07 which would be Mod and between skeet and IC. I have a number of 20 ga in different makers so was happy for a change. When you think how close 16 and 20 on bore diameter, they’re only .007
Difference . I absolutely loved shooting the first on Quail last year and can only imagine this new girl will be that much more fun.

Reggie Bishop
09-09-2021, 06:04 AM
The twenty gauge guns will always demand a premium over the sixteen in my opinion. They are a delight to carry, shot shells are normally always available, they offer plenty of fire power for most hunting situations and they didn't produce many of them. A Parker 20 is the best all around shotgun ever made! Having said that there is nothing wrong with a nice 16 and others will argue that they prefer the 16 over the 20.

Dean Romig
09-09-2021, 07:22 AM
When you think how close 16 and 20 on bore diameter, they’re only .007
Difference.



Actually the difference between the 20 at .615” and the 16 at .662” is .047”






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Greg Dennis
09-09-2021, 08:09 AM
You are correct sir, I thought something didn’t sound right about that. I really liked the idea of this information on the back of someone’s business card but not much help if the information is wrong. Thank you for the correction.

keavin nelson
09-09-2021, 08:28 AM
I have favored 16s for a long time. My favorite grouse gun is a 0 frame P grade w/26" barrels, a wand! There are three others including a GHE. And then the other makes, LCs, Fox, and an Ithaca. Then the very nice guild gun made for Wm Read & Sons. But I guess they aren't popular

Dean Romig
09-09-2021, 08:30 AM
Sorry Greg - yours is a misprint.


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George Davis
09-09-2021, 08:56 AM
I've hunted with 16 gauge for the last 30 years: Carries like a 20 and hits like a 12. I believe for upland game gun it's the ultimate gauge. I'd like to add two more 16 gauge guns to my arsenal both with 30 inch barrels: 0 or 1 frame Parker G and Stephen Grant side lever.

Dean Romig
09-09-2021, 09:06 AM
I love the 16’s. I have kept 5 or 6 Parker 16’s and have sold probably as many and still have seller’s remorse over a couple of them.

I have only ever bought one of them on the 1-frame size, all of the others have been on the 0-frame and all of those had the lightening cuts on the water table.





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Mike Koneski
09-09-2021, 09:23 AM
I love hunting upland with my 16s. I have a few Parkers and Lefevers and enjoy them all.

Craig Larter
09-09-2021, 09:57 AM
As far as price differences, I figure a 16 has about a 1.5x premium over a 12 and a 20 a 2x premium over a 12.

Paul Ehlers
09-09-2021, 09:58 AM
I've been saying for years that if I had to get down to one shotgun- "It would be a 16ga"

That statement can be expanded to "It would be a Parker 16 on a 0-frame or an Fox with 3 or 4 weight barrels. I prefer the just right length 28" barrels but more importantly the gun needs to weight somewhere around 6.5lbs. The beauty of both the Parkers & Fox sixteens is you can find them in weights as low as the high 5 to the low 6lb range which makes for a wonderful package to carry all day in the uplands.

The ever present problem with the sixteen here in America is it's considered the red-headed stepchild gauge. I believe a lot of the reason for that is it wasn't included in the official gauge line-up when the game of skeet came around.

Unfortunately the 20ga will always overshadow the 16 here in America.

John Bastiani
09-09-2021, 10:11 AM
This 16 ga. gun has the number 1 frame instead of the 0 frame that I would prefer. Does the number 1 frame hurt the value much? Also the gun has 30 inch barrels.

Michael Moffa
09-09-2021, 10:49 AM
One weekend in Vegas (how many good stories start out this way?), I purchased 3 16ga's from Ivory Beads. They were high condition Grade 2 and 3, 28" and 30", English and PG stocks. The 30" zero frame is a dream to carry. As they say, carries like a twenty hits like a twelve. I was about 20g's lighter that weekend. I told the spousal unit I blew it on hookers and blow as she gets really annoyed when I buy another Parker.

Spin

Dean Romig
09-09-2021, 10:56 AM
:biglaugh:





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Jerry VanHorn
09-09-2021, 11:36 AM
In keeping...I have 7......4 O frames...a Trojan..O frame Grade 1 hammer with cuts..and a 32" VHE..Hard to pick a favorite..

Bill Murphy
09-09-2021, 11:46 AM
I have a 16 0 frame GHE three barrel set 24", 28", and 30", all factory, that is, obviously, my favorite. However, there are a few more 16s that I treasure in my collection. Lately, I have been shooting my Grade 2 hammer gun, 0 frame, milled receiver, and having a great time. It is tubed to 28 gauge by Briley, and I'm thinking about having Briley tube my Lindner 16 hammer gun to 28 gauge also.

Marty Kohler
09-09-2021, 01:55 PM
For the original poster..

I have a one frame VH 16 that has 28" barrels IMC and full chokes..

It weighs 6lbs. 3oz.

All letters to the gun.....

The stock's pistol grip fits my hand perfectly......

I have a very nice VH 28 and 20 that I like very much but to me they just don't fit me or feel as nice....

BTW the 20 is heavier and the 28 isn't that much lighter then the 16...

JMHO ......Look for a 16 like that....should be in the 2-3k area maybe more through a dealer

Good Luck....

Russell E. Cleary
09-09-2021, 05:09 PM
Doesn't it say something special about the 16 that it is the only gauge with its own dedicated online forum?

http://www.16ga.com/forum/index.php

Garry L Gordon
09-09-2021, 08:20 PM
John, stay away from 16s. Ammo is hard to find and you can never get your money back out of them. I've been trying to save folks from the risk and trouble of owning a 16 by buying as many as I could. I guess it's my good deed to the shooting public. (Is there an emoji for a "wink" and "tongue in cheek?")

Andrew Sacco
09-09-2021, 08:23 PM
I have always shot O/U 20g Citoris or Berettas for grouse, or an LC 20FW. Going to Maine this year and bringing three Parker 16's. A VH on 1 frame, a VH on 0 frame and GH on 1 frame (being sold this year for a variety of reasons) to fund another 16 on 0 frame if she comes along. I wouldn't mind a 20 Parker, but would snap up a 16 over one almost any day. The way I look at it, you can do anything with a 28 and 16g or 12 and 20g, I prefer the former but 16's are becoming a thing with me. I have four now and need about four more. A buddy handled my 16 on 0 frame and said "that is a beautiful 20..." Porsche 911 from the early 70's comes to mind. Not fancy, but nimble and does it with style and puts a smile on your face.

Jeff Stegmeier
09-09-2021, 08:50 PM
If you are considering purchasing a 16, I recommend buying one soon. Absolutely great guns. I love my 16 ga. DH w/ 28” barrels. I also have a Fox A grade 16. Wonderful!

Mills Morrison
09-09-2021, 11:24 PM
I have lost count on the number of 16's I have and I am fine with that. One is on the way now, as a matter of fact.

Bruce P Bruner
09-09-2021, 11:49 PM
Sixteen’s are my favorite, because when I pick up a 12 #2 frame it feels somewhat burdensome by comparison. Weight matters, and the 16’s are just ergonomically more appealing. Not saying the heavier guns in the stable aren’t useful, just aren’t my first choice. Finding nice 16’s that fit my budget is a difficult task, though I admit I enjoy the hunt. Adding a nice Parker to the collection gives me so much joy it is hard to explain.

Harold Lee Pickens
09-10-2021, 07:07 AM
I have 5 Parker 16's, 3 Fox 16s, a Lefever G, Ithaca 4E, Fair Rizzini, and a neat German 16 hammer gun, plus a beat up set of 34" barrels for a hammer gun. For years I shot pretty much nothing but 16s, until I picked up an old VHE 20 which is now my favorite grouse gun . Ammo is always more difficult to find, but years ago I bought a huge supply of 16 ammo from a friend who had died, and then started reloading.
Marty, a 1 frame 16 at 6lbs 3oz is lighter than many O frames, great gun.

Garry L Gordon
09-10-2021, 09:01 AM
Harold inspired me to check my records for 16s in the safes: 5 Foxes, 2 AyA, 1 Cogswell & Harrison (a less than 5 pound 30 inch Damascus hammer gun back action), 4 L.C. Smiths, 1 Lefever, 1 Meriden, 7 Parkers, and 1 Remington. I like 'em.

Jeff Stegmeier
09-10-2021, 09:24 AM
I'm enjoying this discussion immensely because I have always liked 16's. They are generally nicely balanced, light weight and can be used for a wide variety of game.

Now, regarding Mr. Mobirdhunters's collection I would like make one observation. If I'm reading this thread correctly, yesterday he stated "John, stay away from 16s.". This morning he provided us a list of his 16b collection, which included 20, that's right, 20 shotguns. And he stated "I like 'em".

Hmmmmm! Kinda makes you think........ :) As he hinted, he's a hoarder.

John Bastiani
09-10-2021, 09:54 AM
Have enjoyed all your replys on the 16 ga. After reading how much you gentlemen think about your Parker 16's- I decided to give Connecticut shotgun a call on a BHE 16 ga.-30" barrels that they had listed as basically a mint original gun. To my dismay-it was already sold. Maybe somebody on the site purchased the gun and will give us some insights about it.

Mills Morrison
09-10-2021, 10:01 AM
People talk about 0 frames vs 1 frames, but I have found barrel length makes a big difference. I have a GH 1 frame with 26" barrels and it handles as well or better than some 0 frames

Reggie Bishop
09-10-2021, 10:16 AM
Have enjoyed all your replys on the 16 ga. After reading how much you gentlemen think about your Parker 16's- I decided to give Connecticut shotgun a call on a BHE 16 ga.-30" barrels that they had listed as basically a mint original gun. To my dismay-it was already sold. Maybe somebody on the site purchased the gun and will give us some insights about it.

That particular BHE 16 has been listed a few months now. It appeared to be a very nice Parker and the 30" barrels appealed to me. The price tag wasn't very appealing at $39,995! I thought it was overpriced about $9,995.00. But apparently someone thought otherwise.

Andrew Sacco
09-10-2021, 10:27 AM
That particular BHE 16 has been listed a few months now. It appeared to be a very nice Parker and the 30" barrels appealed to me. The price tag wasn't very appealing at $39,995! I thought it was overpriced about $9,995.00. But apparently someone thought otherwise.

I have considered a few different shooters from CT Shotgun, but they have not been open to "offers" even as the guns sat there at prices higher than I thought they should be (both Parkers and other brands). I bought one gun from them, a VH 12 and admittedly it was in finer condition than I anticipated by a large margin.

John Bastiani
09-10-2021, 10:55 AM
That particular BHE 16 has been listed a few months now. It appeared to be a very nice Parker and the 30" barrels appealed to me. The price tag wasn't very appealing at $39,995! I thought it was overpriced about $9,995.00. But apparently someone thought otherwise.
I thought the price was high too but was going to try and talk them down since it had been for sale awhile. Actually-according to the salesman-the gun has been sold for some time. For some reason Connecticut shotgun won't take the guns off their website or Guns International after they have been sold. He told me he was taking this gun off as we spoke yesterday but it is still listed. I bought a pair of 28 gauge nickel plated snapcaps off them recently that was listed on Guns International(I think they still are) and they held my money for two weeks before I called them to find out the status of my purchase and they informed me that they were out of stock. Dealers need to take sold items off these websites as soon as possible.

Mills Morrison
09-10-2021, 12:24 PM
Two of my 16's

Mike Koneski
09-10-2021, 01:31 PM
Bought another 16g Parker today. A 1927 Trojan 30" 1 frame 6lb 6oz with great dimensions. I have plans for this gun. It'll be ready for the Spring Southern. Just sayin'.

Andrew Sacco
09-10-2021, 01:47 PM
Bought another 16g Parker today. A 1927 Trojan 30" 1 frame 6lb 6oz with great dimensions. I have plans for this gun. It'll be ready for the Spring Southern. Just sayin'.

That sounds like a beauty Mike

Dean Romig
09-10-2021, 02:08 PM
Wow, a 16 gauge Trojan with 30” barrels - now THAT’S a rare bird!!





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Garry L Gordon
09-10-2021, 02:10 PM
I'm enjoying this discussion immensely because I have always liked 16's. They are generally nicely balanced, light weight and can be used for a wide variety of game.

Now, regarding Mr. Mobirdhunters's collection I would like make one observation. If I'm reading this thread correctly, yesterday he stated "John, stay away from 16s.". This morning he provided us a list of his 16b collection, which included 20, that's right, 20 shotguns. And he stated "I like 'em".

Hmmmmm! Kinda makes you think........ :) As he hinted, he's a hoarder.

Uh-Oh, I think I'm caught! Well, Jeff, you got me, but remember that I have altruistic intentions in buying 16s. (And, for Harold, I forgot I do also have an early Flues 16, a wonderfully light bird gun choked open-tight).

Here's one of my favorite 16s -- a Parker CHE with Bernard barrels. Don't buy those Bernard barrel guns, either. They just can't take being shot 100 years later. So, call me if you see one and I'll try to get it off the market.:bigbye:

Garry L Gordon
09-10-2021, 02:14 PM
Bought another 16g Parker today. A 1927 Trojan 30" 1 frame 6lb 6oz with great dimensions. I have plans for this gun. It'll be ready for the Spring Southern. Just sayin'.

Which just goes to show you don't have to have an 0 frame 16 to get a lighter gun. That sounds like a winner, Mike.

allen newell
09-10-2021, 03:42 PM
Back in the day the 16 in New England was the 'bird gun' for grouse and woodcock. And a pheasant here and there..
I grew up hunting with my grand fathers/Dad's 16 Parker VH, O frame, 28 inch barrels. I had DelGrego do a total restoration on it about 8 yrs ago, maybe longer. A family heirloom and prize posession.

Randy G Roberts
09-10-2021, 04:01 PM
Bought another 16g Parker today. A 1927 Trojan 30" 1 frame 6lb 6oz with great dimensions. I have plans for this gun. It'll be ready for the Spring Southern. Just sayin'.

A 30" Trojan 16, uncommon to say the least I would think. And it's been on a diet at 6-6. That's a sweet find right there Mr. Editor ! Now if it has condition, whew :corn:

Dean Romig
09-10-2021, 04:06 PM
I have only one 16 gauge hammerless Parker. A really nice DHE with Titanic Steel barrels, beautiful dogs and turnips on the floor plate.


All my others are Parker hammer guns.


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Dean Romig
09-10-2021, 04:12 PM
And then there are the hammer guns...

But this is just one of them, I don't want to bore anyone with all the others.


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Randy G Roberts
09-10-2021, 04:19 PM
Beautiful guns Dean. You made me look, I have 5 Hammerless Parker 16's in the rack with this Rem Era GHE being the nicest. A few years back I picked up a 32" VHE 16 that I enjoy chasing Phez with. At 6-11 as I recall it's not to bad to carry on the prairie. It's an alluring gauge for sure

Dean Romig
09-10-2021, 04:21 PM
Wow Randy - that one would sure be the nicest in my collection! What a beauty!!





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Brett Hoop
09-10-2021, 04:44 PM
I have a couple both 0 frame a VH and a GH Damascus. They kill pheasants for me like my name was Roberts or Koneski meaning they don't miss. Worst thing about them is that you gotta pay attention to the color of your shells, and only take the purple ones.

Mike Koneski
09-10-2021, 04:45 PM
A 30" Trojan 16, uncommon to say the least I would think. And it's been on a diet at 6-6. That's a sweet find right there Mr. Editor ! Now if it has condition, whew :corn:

Probaly 80% on the bbls and has some CC too. Nice condition and great dimensions. Wasn't really "looking" per se. Came across it and have an idea that will now be fulfilled. :)

Craig Larter
09-10-2021, 05:13 PM
I love you guys. I sometimes worry my addiction is severe and find it difficult to control the urge. But I'm a minor league ---- after reading this topic!!

Mike Koneski
09-10-2021, 05:34 PM
Addiction?? We’re just keeping dangerous old guns out of circulation so nobody gets hurt. Because it’s all fun and games until someone loses a digit, then it’s just fun!

Kind of like Dragnet, “The guns have been purchased to protect the innocent.”

Reggie Bishop
09-10-2021, 05:47 PM
My only 16 doesn’t even have “Parker” on the frame. It may be a fake?

Garry L Gordon
09-10-2021, 05:52 PM
And then there are the hammer guns...

But this is just one of them, I don't want to bore anyone with all the others.


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Bore me, bore me!!

Garry L Gordon
09-10-2021, 05:57 PM
Addiction?? We’re just keeping dangerous old guns out of circulation so nobody gets hurt. Because it’s all fun and games until someone loses a digit, then it’s just fun!

Hmmm…that’s an even better excuse than mine for caretaking 16s.:bowdown:

Randy G Roberts
09-10-2021, 06:09 PM
My only 16 doesn’t even have “Parker” on the frame. It may be a fake?

I fear that you are correct Reggie and it may not be original. We should talk before you get in any deeper:)

Mike Koneski
09-10-2021, 06:47 PM
My only 16 doesn’t even have “Parker” on the frame. It may be a fake?

Burn her, she’s a witch!!

Mike Koneski
09-10-2021, 06:51 PM
I have a couple both 0 frame a VH and a GH Damascus. They kill pheasants for me like my name was Roberts or Koneski meaning they don't miss. Worst thing about them is that you gotta pay attention to the color of your shells, and only take the purple ones.

Brett, I used to miss occasionally, but I sold all my Fox guns.:cool:

Brett Hoop
09-10-2021, 07:24 PM
Brett, I used to miss occasionally, but I sold all my Fox guns.:cool:

Ya well the Draft Kings Wednesday over/under line was 45 at the Southern :):bowdown:

Russell E. Cleary
09-10-2021, 07:58 PM
John:

For a gauge that reputedly a broad swath of the nation's shot-gunners have deemed passé, your inquiry has generated a very long-legged thread, on our Forum.

I shoot casual skeet with a couple of O/U guys, and with whom I have had no success turning on to the Romance of vintage guns....with one exception.

One of the fellows several years ago got curious enough to ask to try my Parker VH-16 for a round. Full chokes in both 28-inch barrels, a 1-frame, 6 pounds, eight ounces. He shot a superb round, and obvious was his delight in "vaporizing", rather than merely "disassembling", a number of the clays.

Since that day he has shot it again on occasion, and has a standing offer before me to buy the gun when I am ready to let it go. Thirty years my junior, he may well eventually become its next owner.

It is probably a good thing that so many gunners consider a 16-gauge of marginal practicality. It has to make their acquisition more feasible for some of us.

Bruce Hering
09-10-2021, 08:11 PM
I have two 16's. A 28" J.P. Sauer knock about, with Krupp (3 ring marked) barrels:

https://i.imgur.com/nB39cu0.jpg

https://i.imgur.com/1Vu5riw.jpg

And a virtually un fired Meriden with 30" barrels:

https://i.imgur.com/SY7fYvC.jpg

https://i.imgur.com/tGOxjT8.jpg

Parker will be next.

Mills Morrison
09-10-2021, 08:13 PM
People who appreciate the 16 gauge, like people who appreciate the sxs, are a minority but a minority that understands a good gun.

I have lost count, have one on the way and have another one that is bugging me.

Bruce Hering
09-10-2021, 11:41 PM
I should mention that growing up (1950's-early 1960's) in very most NE NJ when grouse were still present and only a drive to the "Traditional Drowned Grounds" area of NY, I do remember many of my fathers bird dog Grouse/Woodcock buddies shooting 16g sxs guns.

It now seems to me, as others have said, the 16 was really the gun/gauge of choice for our feathered friends. I sure do wish I could go back to that era and pay more attention to the guns that were used. Oh man.... to go back......

Garry L Gordon
09-11-2021, 06:45 AM
I should mention that growing up (1950's-early 1960's) in very most NE NJ when grouse were still present and only a drive to the "Traditional Drowned Grounds" area of NY, I do remember many of my fathers bird dog Grouse/Woodcock buddies shooting 16g sxs guns.

It now seems to me, as others have said, the 16 was really the gun/gauge of choice for our feathered friends. I sure do wish I could go back to that era and pay more attention to the guns that were used. Oh man.... to go back......

Bruce, the Drowned Grounds was a hunting area for the sporting writer, Frank Forrester (Herbert). He writes of his hunts there in the early and mid-19th Century. Now that would really be going back(!) The changes to that area have been tremendous, and not good for hunting (or wildlife). My brother-in-law now lives in Northern New Jersey and on our occasional visits, I am reminded why I don't want to live in the most heavily populated state. It's neat that you have your memories of hunting the area before the intense development. I grew up in the Williamsburg-Jamestown-Yorktown area of Virginia, and we used to hunt in the woods that are now Busch Gardens. I cannot bear to go back and see what has happened.

Dean Romig
09-11-2021, 08:40 AM
Hmmm… I just remembered three more 16 gauge Parker hammerless gun I have. All three are Damascus Grade-2 guns, one an 1893 that was sent back to PB in 1913 to be converted to ejectors. This particular gun is the third Parker I ever bought and the first Parker I ever killed a grouse with.





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Mills Morrison
09-11-2021, 09:39 AM
I have one hammer 16 but am very proud of it. With some luck, it won’t be the last

Dean Romig
09-11-2021, 09:42 AM
I have one hammer 16 but am very proud of it. With some luck, it won’t be the last

Mills, if you can find a 16 ga. Lifter you’ll love it forever!





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John Bastiani
09-11-2021, 10:35 AM
I found out one thing about this thread is that the people who own a Parker 16 ga. are very passionate about them. I didn't realize that there was this much enthusiasm over the 16 ga. and now wish I would have jumped on the BHE 16 ga. sooner.Ah well- The next gun I would really like in my Parker collection is a minty 410 but am going to keep the door open on a 16.

Mills Morrison
09-11-2021, 10:48 AM
Mills, if you can find a 16 ga. Lifter you’ll love it forever!





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I still kick myself for not jumping on yours when you sold it

Dean Romig
09-11-2021, 11:11 AM
Well if the current owner ever gets tired of I’ve already told him I’ll buy it back. I really miss that gun.





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Mills Morrison
09-11-2021, 11:16 AM
I can wait. And if Cameron wants it, Harry can wait

Keith Sirmans
09-11-2021, 11:41 AM
I really love my 16's. They are very nimble to carry and pack a great punch. Even walmart sells the shells

Bruce Hering
09-11-2021, 12:43 PM
Bruce, the Drowned Grounds was a hunting area for the sporting writer, Frank Forrester (Herbert). He writes of his hunts there in the early and mid-19th Century. Now that would really be going back(!) The changes to that area have been tremendous, and not good for hunting (or wildlife). My brother-in-law now lives in Northern New Jersey and on our occasional visits, I am reminded why I don't want to live in the most heavily populated state. It's neat that you have your memories of hunting the area before the intense development. I grew up in the Williamsburg-Jamestown-Yorktown area of Virginia, and we used to hunt in the woods that are now Busch Gardens. I cannot bear to go back and see what has happened.

Sent you a PM.....

Jay Oliver
09-11-2021, 01:50 PM
I like 16 Parkers too...what's not to like? Here is a D grade hammer with 28" Damascus barrels on an 0 frame. Weighs 6lbs. even and is a delight to shoot :)

Mike Koneski
09-11-2021, 02:05 PM
Pretty gun! Fishtail top-lever to boot! What's not to like?

Craig Larter
09-11-2021, 05:32 PM
I like 16 Parkers too...what's not to like? Here is a D grade hammer with 28" Damascus barrels on an 0 frame. Weighs 6lbs. even and is a delight to shoot :)

That is a beautiful Parker Jay WOW

Garry L Gordon
09-11-2021, 08:23 PM
Wow(!), Jay, just wow(!).

JACK MURPHY JR
09-11-2021, 08:23 PM
The magic of the 16 gauge 0 Frame Parker for a New England grouse and woodcock hunter must be a romance that goes back to the very roots of the founding of Parker.
I often think of the men that ordered my well fitting Parker’s 100 years before me. It wasn’t just by chance that Parker built these guns that are to this day still the favorite of the modern hunter. There is nothing quite like moving in on a solid point, the rush of the flush and mounting a 16 gauge old reliable.

Matt Buckley
09-11-2021, 09:10 PM
I also own a gh hammer gun in 16 gauge on an O frame but it is a bit heavier and just shy of 7lbs. It has 30" barrels and I believe was built as a waterfowling gun. 16 gauge Parkers are the cats meow in my book. I own 3 of them and love them all. It is the perfect all around gauge for most hunting.

Garry L Gordon
09-11-2021, 09:13 PM
Sent you a PM.....

Hey, Bruce. No PM as of this evening.

Bruce Hering
09-12-2021, 12:17 AM
Hey, Bruce. No PM as of this evening.

I'll be darned.... It was a long one too. I'll retype it and send it on in the morning. I am headed for bed.... old guys gotta get their rest.

Sorry about that. I have no idea what the heck happened.

Dean Romig
09-12-2021, 08:48 AM
Bruce, look for it in ‘Sent Items’ you mightvfind it there.





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Bruce Hering
09-12-2021, 12:29 PM
Hey, Bruce. No PM as of this evening. Sent another....

Bruce, look for it in ‘Sent Items’ you mightvfind it there.

Thanks Dean. I looked, and it was not there. Who knows what I did...

Joseph Sheerin
09-12-2021, 02:24 PM
Personally, I like 16's over 20's... But, to each their own.

Still don't have a Parker 16, just have not seen one in the condition/price/config that gets me to pull the trigger on one. :D

Bruce P Bruner
09-12-2021, 03:13 PM
Personally, I like 16's over 20's... But, to each their own.

Still don't have a Parker 16, just have not seen one in the condition/price/config that gets me to pull the trigger on one. :D

Locating an acceptable Parker 16 is equivalent to winning the lottery. One of my favorite pastimes is seeking the ideal measurable’s, condition and price of quality Parker shotguns. I currently have zero acceptable 16 gauge examples on my short list.
The finest examples of Parker shotguns that routinely surface are offered by Mr. Josh Loewensteiner on Guns International. I’m also confident that wonderful examples are available at PGCA events.
I have been very fortunate to have won the “Parker 16 Gauge Lottery” twice, so far.

Garry L Gordon
09-12-2021, 03:34 PM
Locating an acceptable Parker 16 is equivalent to winning the lottery. One of my favorite pastimes is seeking the ideal measurable’s, condition and price of quality Parker shotguns. I currently have zero acceptable 16 gauge examples on my short list.
The finest examples of Parker shotguns that routinely surface are offered by Mr. Josh Loewensteiner on Guns International. I’m also confident that wonderful examples are available at PGCA events.
I have been very fortunate to have won the “Parker 16 Gauge Lottery” twice, so far.

Bruce, those are some beauties. You did indeed win the lottery.:bowdown:

I also agree with your assessment of Josh's offerings, and I have several in my safes. It's so nice to have someone who makes good descriptions, prices fairly, and is honest in his dealings.

Gary Carmichael Sr
09-13-2021, 12:42 PM
16 & 20 ga hammer guns are a pleasure to shoot and carry, I only have 3 16ga hammer guns 28" a 30" and a 38"but all Parkers are a pleasure to own and use, gary

Mills Morrison
09-15-2021, 08:12 PM
A 20 gauge hammer gun is on my long term want list. 26” barrels would be great.

Dale Medders
09-17-2021, 01:48 AM
I have 3 Parker 16"s a G a D and a Custom Trojan.
And I have 3 other 16 SXS's from other Makers
Love the 16ga

Ken Burgess
09-17-2021, 11:31 AM
My 16's are a Winchester Model 12, Fox Sterlingworth deluxe, LC Smith Field Grade,Ithaca Flues Grade 1 1/2. My Parkers are all 12 but I'd love a 16.
I shoot 2.5 inchers and 3/4 oz load in all my 16s and they smoke clays.

Byron Teates
09-17-2021, 03:32 PM
I purchased a Parker 16 vh 0 frame back in 2013 and posted several photos. Larry
Delgrego said it was the most original condition Parker that had come into his shop for some time.

It is not a safe queen and has been used for quail, dove, and pheasant. Last year it went to South Dakota with me. The guide asked if anyone was hunting with anything other that a 12 gauge and I indicated I was using a 16 gauge with an ounce of #6s.
He told me in front of the other shooters " this is South Dakota and that gun and load ain't gonna cut it." After the 9th pheasant I dropped after 9 shots he quietly walked over to me and said he was wrong. It is one of my favorite game guns and would not sell It for a kreighoff.

Mills Morrison
09-17-2021, 03:34 PM
I shot two 16 gauges in South Dakota. The one with tighter chokes worked really well