View Full Version : Interesting D Hammer gun for sale
keavin nelson
08-27-2021, 10:56 AM
I saw this listing this morning and thought it interesting, haven't seen many two barrel sets of a hammer top lever gun.
Gunbroker 908414033
Dean Romig
08-27-2021, 11:10 AM
That’s a really nice Parker that looks correct in every detail except two. The first being if Parker had replaced the second forend iron they would most certainly have numbered it to the gun.
Second, overboring was common in the day but at far as I know, only up to about .750”. .765” throws up a big red flag for me.
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Randy G Roberts
08-27-2021, 11:34 AM
This one displays 3 different serial numbers. Interesting or strange in that the serialization book shows it as having an extra set of barrels but the ones with the gun have different serial numbers than the frame, both of them.
Dean Romig
08-27-2021, 12:23 PM
Hmmm…
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Brian Dudley
08-27-2021, 02:03 PM
The buttplate is a real curiosity. It looks like solid horn. And properly fitted. One would expect a SSBP on the gun. I wonder if records may suggest a request for a horn plate. But if a buttplate was requested, one would also expect a DHBP.
Bill Murphy
08-27-2021, 03:25 PM
Randy, the numbers on the bottom of the barrels are not the serial numbers. This deceptive and overpriced vendor does not display the serial numbers on the barrel lugs. True, the second forearm is missing, but oh well. I can't understand why he doesn't order PGCA letters on his more unusual guns. I inquired about a gun several years ago, and about one of its unusual features, inquiring about the feature on the PGCA letter. He stated he had no letter on the gun. I was ready to write the check, but only if the feature was found original and the original buyer could be identified. Four or six years later, the gun is still on his list and he has not ordered the letter. We can't order a letter on every gun we are somewhat interested in. However, as the seller of a mid to high four figure gun, I would order the letter so a potential buyer could make a more informed decision. I gave up on this seller years ago and only became interested in this Grade 3 hammer gun because I didn't realize he was the seller.
Randy G Roberts
08-27-2021, 03:38 PM
Bill when I went back and looked again after your post I did see the correct serial numbers on the barrel lugs. Having said that what is the 17555 number on each barrel flat ?
Dean Romig
08-27-2021, 04:14 PM
The number stamped on the barrel flats of earlier hammer guns is the order number, not the serial number.
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keavin nelson
08-27-2021, 05:29 PM
[QUOTE=Dean Romig;342050]The number stamped on the barrel flats of earlier hammer guns is the order number, not the serial number.
So if they have the same order number, it must have been produced as a set???
keavin nelson
08-27-2021, 05:31 PM
Randy, the numbers on the bottom of the barrels are not the serial numbers. This deceptive and overpriced vendor does not display the serial numbers on the barrel lugs. True, the second forearm is missing, but oh well. I can't understand why he doesn't order PGCA letters on his more unusual guns. I inquired about a gun several years ago, and about one of its unusual features, inquiring about the feature on the PGCA letter. He stated he had no letter on the gun. I was ready to write the check, but only if the feature was found original and the original buyer could be identified. Four or six years later, the gun is still on his list and he has not ordered the letter. We can't order a letter on every gun we are somewhat interested in. However, as the seller of a mid to high four figure gun, I would order the letter so a potential buyer could make a more informed decision. I gave up on this seller years ago and only became interested in this Grade 3 hammer gun because I didn't realize he was the seller.
Bill, I am with you on this vendor, and wonder if he ever actually sells any of the guns listed, uniformly all over priced? But he does present some unique pieces.
Bill Murphy
08-28-2021, 09:22 AM
The two identical order numbers would indicate that this multi barrel set was ordered that way. Seeing the letter would be more interesting.
Craig Budgeon
08-29-2021, 02:40 PM
According to the trigger guard the serial# is 29983 which matches the serialization book. DGJ has a 10 ga. in its 2006 winter edition which pictures a D hammer gun with a thick spurred BP that might be Parker Bros. installed.
Dave Noreen
08-29-2021, 04:38 PM
The one original forearm has the 1 above the serial number but the dealer doesn't show us the forearm loops for the 1 & 2 stamps.
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Jeff Davison
08-30-2021, 09:06 AM
I went to this store in Kansas City area, probably four or five years ago. Walked in the store with my wife and three daughters. My wife and kids can handle firearms as well as anyone, every employee stared at them like they were waiting for them to pick up and drop a gun, they never approached any firearm and ended up just standing near a chair in the showroom, very aware of the stares. I did manage to speak to an employee long enough to get out of him that most of the antique firearms are on consignment and the one I was there to look at wasn't in the store and they'd have to contact the consignor. So either they're suspicious of everyone, or they hire a bunch of perverts that stare at every female that walks in the place. Either way, won't be back. As a side note, the salesmen were happily helping all the guys there looking at black guns. So, if you're in that market.
todd allen
08-30-2021, 11:13 PM
I know I'm not the only one who noticed what a beautiful gun this is.
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