View Full Version : Patience and lots of looking paid off....
Bruce Hering
08-21-2021, 05:03 PM
I have been searching for a particular make up Parker that was within my budget and that could be hunted, not for a gun case collection (no offense to collectors here) for some time.
The gun was to be a 20ga. with 30 or 32" fluid steel barrels, either a straight (preferred) or pistol grip stock with dimensions close to "modern" and grade of GH. Well ya know how things go.... I kept my nose on a bunch of listings and on Wednesday last found something just about as I wanted.
Its a 1924 VH 20ga. pistol grip stock with 30" fluid (Vulcan) steel barrels, choked IC/Full. Double triggers of course. The gun has seen a good bit of use but is tight and still retains some Case color. The barrels ring but there is some wear evident on the blue. The wood is in great shape and shows some figure in the butt stock (I am not sure if it is a replacement or not) and the checkering seems good.
This gun comes from a very reputable dealer and after some talk on price I feel I did OK given the prices of some of the higher grade 20's and then those 32" barreled guns. I think this will certainly make a great dove and quail gun as well as a fun sporting clays 20ga. event gun.
My current plans are to shoot this gun now and perhaps this winter send it off to be redone with new blue and case color.
So, here ya go with some pics... comments welcome....
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Brian Dudley
08-21-2021, 05:22 PM
Dont tart the gun up. You bought it for a shooter. Just shoot it.
Keith Doty
08-21-2021, 05:34 PM
VERY NICE VH. I definitely wouldn't alter it at all. Shoot it man!!! A bit more barrel and choke than I prefer for quail but great for doves, flushing pheasants. Outta be wicked with bismuth over decoys for ducks! IC for incoming, full for fly-away ducks!
Dean Romig
08-21-2021, 05:36 PM
The checkering on the buttstock looks Remingtonesque, the forend not so much.
Other than that it’s a darn nice one.
Are there any Remington codes on the left barrel flat?
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Reggie Bishop
08-21-2021, 05:51 PM
I saw that one as well. Nice 20. I wouldn’t mess with that gun, leave it as is!
Mike Koneski
08-21-2021, 06:02 PM
Leave it as is Bruce. When you decide to sell it I don't want it all polished and shiny!! :rotf:
Bruce Hering
08-21-2021, 06:14 PM
Dont tart the gun up. You bought it for a shooter. Just shoot it.
Yep, your right
VERY NICE VH. I definitely wouldn't alter it at all. Shoot it man!!! A bit more barrel and choke than I prefer for quail but great for doves, flushing pheasants. Outta be wicked with bismuth over decoys for ducks! IC for incoming, full for fly-away ducks!
A lot of what quail we have left are open field (Think about the pastures down on the King, Armstrong, etc. with the grass and motts) and they will run out from a dog, but as to the ducks.... Perfect. For our dove shoots Perfect also...
The checkering on the buttstock looks Remingtonesque, the forend not so much.
Other than that it’s a darn nice one.
Are there any Remington codes on the left barrel flat?.
I dont have it in hand as yet. But I will look when it gets here. I was wondering about that stock..... I dont think its the original butt stock. Wood is tpp nice for the grade and the checkering seems too new, if you know what I mean.
I saw that one as well. Nice 20. I wouldn’t mess with that gun, leave it as is!
I am now convinced to keep it as is.....
Leave it as is Bruce. When you decide to sell it I don't want it all polished and shiny!! :rotf:
Mike that should be rotflmao......
You guys have convinced me and at that saved me some bucks. It stays as is. That savings will go towards ammo for it and I may need to add some LOP with a slim pad. Any suggestions for pad ?
Thanks.....
Ryan Brege
08-21-2021, 06:27 PM
I gave that one a hard look. Really hard. The 30" barrels and the chokes pretty much had me sold. Had it been for sale by anyone else I probably would have caved.
Bruce Hering
08-21-2021, 06:33 PM
I gave that one a hard look. Really hard. The 30" barrels and the chokes pretty much had me sold. Had it been for sale by anyone else I probably would have caved.
Ryan: I understand..... It was too much for me to pass up.
Ryan Brege
08-21-2021, 06:40 PM
Ryan: I understand..... It was too much for me to pass up.
I am very glad you picked it up, I am really looking for a 16 and this would have set me back for a while!
Bill Murphy
08-21-2021, 06:49 PM
Suggestions for a pad. Yeah, a pad that doesn't require you to carve a piece off the back of the stock.
Bruce Hering
08-21-2021, 06:55 PM
I am very glad you picked it up, I am really looking for a 16 and this would have set me back for a while!
Ryan: This will sit beside my pristine Meriden Firearms Co. 30" 16 gauge. Keep looking, you'll find one.
Bruce Hering
08-21-2021, 06:56 PM
Suggestions for a pad. Yeah, a pad that doesn't require you to carve a piece off the back of the stock.
Bill: Yep... thats correct. Its flat mount as is.
Chris Robenalt
08-21-2021, 06:58 PM
I agree everyone else, especially Brian. It's a shooter, don't change what it is. You'll end up regretting it. I've had this 1904 vintage 20 for quite a while. It was bought new and stayed in the same family for 3 generations. Too long of story and history to go into, but I wouldn't want this any other way. She's nothing pretty, but she's quite the little shooter! I shoot this better than my "pretty ones". Don't strip your new shooter of all the stories it could tell you of it's days spent in the field.
Chris, AZ
Harold Lee Pickens
08-21-2021, 07:45 PM
The majority rules, and I agree--dont mess with it!!
Bruce Hering
08-21-2021, 11:53 PM
I am very glad you picked it up, I am really looking for a 16 and this would have set me back for a while!
Ryan: I think I may be done for a while myself.... but there is always....
Chris Robenalt
08-22-2021, 01:19 AM
Ryan: I think I may be done for a while myself.... but there is always....
Bruce, I say that every time I buy or acquire one!
Chris, AZ
Stan Hillis
08-22-2021, 06:51 AM
It ought to be a great gun for doves, Bruce ......... and quail as you described. And you can always open those chokes the easy, non-invasive way with spreaders. They would likely make it into a SK/M choked gun, but patterning would tell for sure.
There are several pads that would look good on it, and give you more LOP, without harming the original dimensions of the wood. I like the period style pads, Hawkins, Jostam, Silvers, etc.
I'm getting a little anxious about my 32" DHE getting back to me for the mid and late upcoming dove seasons. It's off having the triggers tuned and has been gone, along with my Elsie 32" 16 ga., for several months with no word. I don't really expect to hear anything until they're done, but I sure want to see Jim Kelly's name pop up on my cell phone screen!
Hope you enjoy it!
Stephen Hodges
08-22-2021, 08:47 AM
Bruce, I also was watching that gun. Very good price from a dealer not known for that. Great looking gun.
Brian Dudley
08-22-2021, 09:26 AM
The checkering on the buttstock looks Remingtonesque, the forend not so much.
Other than that it’s a darn nice one.
Are there any Remington codes on the left barrel flat?
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The checkering is not factory work. It is incorrectly recut.
Bruce Hering
08-22-2021, 12:16 PM
The checkering is not factory work. It is incorrectly recut.
Brian: Thanks. I thought something did not look quite right but who am I to know. Again... Thanks.
Bruce Hering
08-22-2021, 12:19 PM
It ought to be a great gun for doves, Bruce ......... and quail as you described. And you can always open those chokes the easy, non-invasive way with spreaders. They would likely make it into a SK/M choked gun, but patterning would tell for sure.
There are several pads that would look good on it, and give you more LOP, without harming the original dimensions of the wood. I like the period style pads, Hawkins, Jostam, Silvers, etc.
I'm getting a little anxious about my 32" DHE getting back to me for the mid and late upcoming dove seasons. It's off having the triggers tuned and has been gone, along with my Elsie 32" 16 ga., for several months with no word. I don't really expect to hear anything until they're done, but I sure want to see Jim Kelly's name pop up on my cell phone screen!
Hope you enjoy it!
Stan: I was thinking a "thin" Silvers, or Silvers type pad.
todd allen
08-22-2021, 01:13 PM
Yep, your right
You guys have convinced me and at that saved me some bucks. It stays as is. That savings will go towards ammo for it and I may need to add some LOP with a slim pad. Any suggestions for pad ?
Thanks.....
You can fit a black spacer to the butt, and have a protrusion to fill the widow's peak. Then a pad of your choice. No permanent mods that way, and it can be returned to original by turning a couple of screws.
I have seen this done, and the results look good.
Bruce Hering
08-22-2021, 01:27 PM
You can fit a black spacer to the butt, and have a protrusion to fill the widow's peak. Then a pad of your choice. No permanent mods that way, and it can be returned to original by turning a couple of screws.
I have seen this done, and the results look good.
Todd: The butt plate is a flat DHBP with no "widows peak" so I think I can just remove it and add a pad.
Thanks
Stan Hillis
08-22-2021, 09:00 PM
Bruce, Mark's Born Again Bird Guns sold a "Silvers type" pad that I am using on my AE Fox 30" barreled 16 ga. It has small screw-hole plugs which, IMHO, look much better on a small bore doublegun than the original type Silvers pads with their huge screw hole plugs. It is gently contoured on the face, moreso than a Silvers.
I can't pull up a link to the pads themselves, but a call to Mark would reveal whether or not they're still available. I may be too picky, but with my guns I can be that way. And, I just hate the way a recoil pad with overly large hole plugs looks on a small bore gun. Griffin & Howe also used to have a Silvers type pad with small plugs, but they're no longer available. I'd love to find a few for sale.
https://www.mbabllc.com/contact_us.html
This is what it looks like:
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Pat Dugan
08-22-2021, 09:45 PM
I have been using slip
On Beartooth pads on some
Short Parkers. For 25 or so you have several inserts that would be perfect
Pat Dugan
08-22-2021, 09:56 PM
I have been using slip
On Beartooth pads on some
Short Parkers. For 25 or so you have several inserts that would be perfect
Bruce Hering
08-22-2021, 11:33 PM
Thanks guys. I'll check them out.
Stan Hillis
08-23-2021, 07:18 AM
I also use slip on pads to lengthen some guns' LOP, when there is a recoil pad already on the gun but not long enough for me (34" sleeves). But, I use the leather Kick Killer brand of pads. They add 1/2" and can be removed easily, but I do hate covering up pretty wood in the back end of a buttstock, even for a few hours. They do work, though!
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