Question on 16 gauge 30” ejector VHE

[Phillip Carr]

Can anyone tell me how many VHE 30” ejector 16 gauge guns were made on 1 frames? How desirable?

[Dean Romig]

Frames and options aren't recorded in the tables at the end of the grades section of The Parker Story so there isn't any accurate answer to your question Phil.






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[Phillip Carr]

Thank you Dean. I does look like here was only about 2200 16 gauges made with 30” barrels If I understand correctly most VH guns did not have ejectors. I believe it was about 17%. Difficult of course to know how many were on the 1 frame.
I was hoping I may have missed something and I could get an estimate.

[Daryl Corona]

Phil;

I have a VH 30" 16. Don't have the s/n handy but could dig it out if you need it.

[Phillip Carr]

Thank you Daryl. No need but thank you. While going through my Parker’s yesterday I remembered this gun has ejectors and it peaked my interest as to how common ejector 16’s were in the lower grades.

[Rick Losey]

Phil, the grade - barrel length and options such as ejectors are listed in the serialization book. ( no frame size but just from the number seen, I expect the 1 frame was the most common for 16s )

too bad you didn't think of this during the lockdowns -it would have given you a project to keep you busy :rotf::rotf::rotf:

[Phillip Carr]

:)I know. It would have been a great time to evaluate my gun needs. There are some I need to reduce the number of and still a few out there I would still like to own.
My gun collection is made up of guns that have caught my eye for one reason or another. Never really concentrating on one particular maker, although I own more Parker’s than anything else.
I love the excitement of finding an unusual or high condition gun and purchasing it.
Then doing some research. Unfortunately Some of these guns go in the dark corners of our safes and stay. Although I try to rotate and use all of my shotguns while shooting Eurasian dove.
What is the last gun you bought that was nothing you needed or was even looking for?
You bought it even though you may never use it.
Mine was several months ago when I bought a high condition flat band model 94 made in 1947 in the worn, yet original box serialized to the gun.
I bought it immediately after it was brought into a friends shop by the family that owned it. I probably paid top dollar but how many 1947 94’s still have the original box?
At least that’s what I told myself.

[Dean Romig]

What is a “flat band” 94 Winchester?





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[Phillip Carr]

Dean in 1946 until late 1948 the front barrel band just aft of the front sit GH the has flat sides rather then being rounded. There were a number of changes along with the temporary change to the flat band right after WWII.
It’s actually a 32 WIN SPL.

[CraigThompson]

What’s the VHE 16 30” choked ? I’ve got two VH 16 30” and both are tight and tighter .

[CraigThompson]

If I lived in an area like you guys in AZ/NM and I could find several good places for Eurasians I’d most likely chase then 3 or 4 times a week during the times I couldn’t pursue other things . Well atleast for the first couple years :rotf:

[Phillip Carr]

Gun is choked .032 and .033

[Bill Murphy]

My kind of chokes.

[davidboyles]

Hey Phil I knew we were related somehow! I have one too with chokes IC and very full. My grandson has killed several turkeys with it using old Win 2 3/4 ", Magnum (marked on the box)1 1/4 oz # 4 loads. A friend gave me 10 boxes of these!! You need some? The old girl doesn't seem to mind shooting these. Serial # 154,059 all original with DHBP. It is also a dove killing machine.

[George Lang]

Phil I had 2 16 ga 30" VHE's on 1 frames. One ic/xf sold it and one f/xf still have it and it has taken many turkeys.

[Phillip Carr]

Thank you David if I decide to keep her I will take you up on a box. Had about decided to let it go but now with all the great ccomments I may need to change my plan. LOL.

[Daryl Corona]

The older I get the more choke I like. Can't never be too much.

[John Davis]

The older I get the more choke I like. Can't never be too much.

Amen.

[Chris Robenalt]

Phil, I had this VH 16 with 30" barrels choked IC & FULL. Sits on a 1 frame, no ejectors though. All original, dates 1928. I also had a Win 94 flat band I worked on for a friend. It too was a 32 SPL, very clean. First I ever saw.

Chris, AZ

[Dave Noreen]

My grandson has killed several turkeys with it using old Win 2 3/4 ", Magnum (marked on the box)1 1/4 oz # 4 loads. A friend gave me 10 boxes of these!! You need some? The old girl doesn't seem to mind shooting these. Serial # 154,059 all original with DHBP.

Pretty stout load to be subjecting 111 year old wood to. In 1910 when 154059 would have been made the "standard" 16-gauge shell was 2 9/16 inch and carried a maximum load of 2 3/4 drams of bulk smokeless powder or 22 grains of dense smokeless powder such as Infallible or Ballistite pushing 1 ounce of shot. Your Parker Bros. 16-gauge, unless it was special ordered for the longer 2 3/4, 2 7/8 or 3-inch 16-gauge shells, would have left Meriden chambered about 2 7/16 inch intended for the 2 9/16 inch shell.

The big four, Western, Winchester, Remington and Peters all introduced their 2 3/4 inch Magnums in 12-, 16- and 20-gauge, in their December 1954 price lists.

[CraigThompson]

Had about decided to let it go but now with all the great ccomments I may need to change my plan. LOL.

FWIW my number one “exercise in futility” (sporting clays) gun is my nicer VH 16 30” F&F gun . It’s also at the moment my preferred December dove gun .

[allen newell]

All we shot growing up on grouse and woodcock were Parker 16's