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dwight pugh
07-17-2021, 01:23 PM
got a CE 12 that right ejector quit on. it kicks every now and then. never a problem till now. i have dismantled it down to all but removing hammers and cleaned everything...no help.
forend works fine with a touch ? any help would be appreciated.
ddp
Dean Romig
07-17-2021, 01:35 PM
Does that ejector cock but won’t eject the fired shell or will it not even cock at all?
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dwight pugh
07-17-2021, 02:27 PM
It cocks every time...just doesn't eject
thanks
ddp
Jerry Parise
07-18-2021, 11:43 AM
Why not post this on the Fox collectors site? I bet that they can tell you the issue and how to repair it. There is a lot of Fox knowledge over there.
dwight pugh
07-18-2021, 12:02 PM
Hello Jerry....already posted on Fox...I'm a member there also...there is a lot of FOX knowledge here too. I'll take help anywhere i can get it.
ddp
Chris Robenalt
07-20-2021, 10:59 AM
Dwight, I've had the same problem on my Sterly. When you open the to eject, give it that extra push. If that doesn't work, there maybe be some wear issue. I'll check it out when I get home.
Chris, AZ
dwight pugh
07-20-2021, 11:10 AM
I'll give it a try...thanks for the advice Chris.
Chris Robenalt
07-20-2021, 11:22 AM
Before I started repair and refinishing, I had a rookie repair some cracks in my forend. Too much bondo under the ejector springs, wouldn't fire. I went in and relieved and they work fine. Keep in touch, let me know what you find.
Chris, AZ
Robert Brooks
07-20-2021, 12:46 PM
Try the ejectors with the wood removed. Bobby
Chris Robenalt
07-20-2021, 01:43 PM
That's what I did Bobby, good call. Process of elimination.
Chris, AZ
dwight pugh
07-20-2021, 03:02 PM
worth a try...nothing changed. i think it is in the internal trip. it was fine last year ..last time i shot it. i think the right trip is worn or broken inside.
thanks for the suggestions.
ddp
Chris Robenalt
07-20-2021, 09:40 PM
Here you go Dwight. Remove the barrels, hold a block of wood to the firing pins and pull triggers. Now take a screwdriver and carfully cocktail the hammers in the slot of the water table. The trip rods will extend outward. Check for wear. I'm sure this is the problem. If not, it could be wear on the trip in the forend. I'm not an expert, but I own a few Foxes. I shoot them and fix them. Hope this helps. A Fox in my opinion is probably the most simplest built, most dependable and rarely malfunctions. My go to gun for sure!
Chris, AZ
dwight pugh
07-21-2021, 12:21 PM
Thanks Chris...that's it. right trip is worn down quite a bit.
ddp
Chris Robenalt
07-21-2021, 02:20 PM
Right barrel gets fired and used the most, I'm guilty of that!
Jason Barden at Pumpkin Mtn Gunshop should have the part. Really nice guy. I've visited with him on the phone, and have bought several parts over the years.
Call at 518-352-1977 or email at
jason@ ahfoxparts.com
Think he's in up state NY. He'll walk you through and tell you how to install it if needed.
Chris, AZ
dwight pugh
07-21-2021, 02:23 PM
No luck...Jason has a note on his site...closed until further notice...
Chris Robenalt
07-21-2021, 10:30 PM
I'll see if I can get ahold of Jason for you
Frank Srebro
07-22-2021, 08:10 AM
The Fox Russell Patent ejector system is a much different design than Parker's and "trip rods" is a misnomer. There are no trip rods. What you see sticking out of the frame radius are trip plates and if properly functioning they slide back and forth in the long EJECTOR type mainspring follower with some minimal pressure/pull. They don't push on anything to actuate the ejector (as do the rods the Parker ejector design). I've never seen a worn trip plate but if you decide to replace it/can get one or more from Jason they'll be unfinished and way oversized. Just sayin. The trip plates are 12 and 16/20 specific.
Chris Robenalt
07-22-2021, 03:09 PM
Actually Frank, I believe the only time I said push, was when I was referring to the opening of the barrels. That extra push will extend the rods to "trip" or engage the ejectors. I guess I was referring to the tiny rod on the trip plate. I'm not always clear with my terminology, oops. I know there's a difference between the Fox and Parker. I was trying to explain it to Dwight. No harm no foul, have a great day my friend.
Chris, AZ
Frank Srebro
07-22-2021, 04:10 PM
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Chris Robenalt
07-22-2021, 09:11 PM
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henderson Marriott
08-13-2021, 11:27 AM
Have a 1916 BE with an identical left ejector issue. The forend had been redone in beavertail style, and that's where I will start looking closer.
Chris Robenalt
08-13-2021, 01:18 PM
Henderson, take the take the wood off your forend and try the ejectors with the forend iron by itself on the gun.
Chris, AZ
Justin Julian
08-23-2021, 04:08 PM
I believe the "trip rods" are actually referred to as "ejector blades" on a Fox. They are clipped onto the end of a long shaft connected to the hammers, and housed within a cylindrical insert that is press fitted into the frame knuckle. Even the extractor models have a filler plug in the frame knuckle which can be seen upon cleaning and close inspection. After removing the hammers, the ejector blade housing has to be driven or hydraulically pressed out from the front of the frame to the back, to remove and replace the worn blade, which will likely need to be fitted to function properly. Such a repair should probably be left to a professional with experience on Fox ejector guns, IMHO.
Chris Robenalt
08-24-2021, 12:50 PM
I would try the ejector without the beavertail wood and see if the left barrel ejects. If still not working, then look into the trip or the ejector for wearing.
Chris, AZ
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