Rookie Question - Trojan Grades

[Dylan Rhodes]

Hi everyone,

I tried to search for this, and maybe I’m just technologically illiterate or otherwise, but my question wasn’t answered. I see that Trojan barrel lengths were restricted to 2 lengths per gauge, but were the chokes also restricted in some manner? I.E. a 28” would have x/x and thats what you get, barring the rare exception?

Thank you,

[Dean Romig]

Depending on which gauge…
30” 12 ga. Trojans were F/F
28” 12’s were M/F
The rare 26” were usually M/F as well

16’s and 20’s were similarly choked but those gauges only came in 26” and 28” barrel lengths.





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[Randy G Roberts]

Dylan:

See the attached which states that PB would not deviate from stock specs at least as advertised in the 1913 Trojan flyer. Does this mean that this held true throughout production, don't know that. Hard for me to believe that if a customer asked Meriden to deviate from those specs they would not. At the least it appears that deviation from these was not the norm for the Trojan.

[Dylan Rhodes]

Thanks Guys, So nothing came in improved then it seems. I found a Trojan in the wild that is IM/mod according to the classical constriction measurement. I will assume that this was altered later in its life.

[Randy G Roberts]

You are most likely correct but with assumption being the mother of all evil as they say you may want to see if a research letter is available. Who knows it could have been sent back or it could have been special ordered and maybe PB deviated. Is this where we say "never say never" ? Good luck with it whatever you do.....

[Dylan Rhodes]

You are most likely correct but with assumption being the mother of all evil as they say you may want to see if a research letter is available. Who knows it could have been sent back or it could have been special ordered and maybe PB deviated. Is this where we say "never say never" ? Good luck with it whatever you do.....

All valid options, but I’m a man of statistics. I think the likelihood that this particular trojan just happens to have the chokes recorded in the books, when we already know that most low grade guns give limited information is low. Further, someone sending back a low dollar gun for alteration seems low.

I will probably let it sit there, its not in danger of disappearing - and I’m sure eventually some day I will buy it....it happens every time.

[Dave Noreen]

As originally introduced the choices were very limited --

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12-gauge 30-inch full & full, or 12-, 16- or 20-gauge 28-inch modified & full.

By the 1922 Parker Bros. catalog the option of 26-inch barrels was added and "standard" borings were still 12-gauge 30-inch full & full, or 12-, 16- or 20-gauge 26- or 28-inch modified & full. And, the line "Barrels will be bored as above unless otherwise ordered." That is how things remained through the last Remington era catalog to include the Trojan Grade.

[Alfred Greeson]

I have two 28" Trojan 20's and both measure mod/imp Mod or full depending on how you read the gauge. They are 1916 and 1926 guns and just fun to carry and shoot. Perfect balance at 6 lbs, Parker built a great little 20 ga. that we can enjoy and afford.

[scott kittredge]

you have to shoot them at paper to see what they are choked. drop in choke gauges just give you a close size. pattern them at 40 yds at a 30 inch circle. I have a 28 in. trojan 12 ga. choked f/f .035 in both barrels and it shoots f/f. and a 26 inch barrel choked .010 and .022 factory ?? I don't know but it shoots light mod and mod.
scott

[Pete Lester]

My thought is it's a Trojan and it would only be collectible vs. a shooter if it was in very high original condition. For a Trojan in average working condition the more open chokes would attractive to me. As it was stated above, only pattern testing will verify exactly how it's choked, because some guns pattern a lot tighter than you think they would given the constriction.

[Bill Murphy]

My 30" 20 gauge Trojan letters as full and full, was ordered that way and is that way now. I may try her on cicadas, but I prefer a tight bored .410.

[charlie cleveland]

squirl gun for sure....charlie

[allen newell]

My 20 Trojan with 26 inch barrels on the 'O' frame measures improved in the left barrel and cylinder in the right barrel. Oh happy Day!