Reasonable price for DH 12ga with following specs

[Tom Eldridge]

I'm new to the Parker community and was hoping you all could provide some assistance in valuing a SxS. It is a 12ga DH from 1896. It has been re-finished.

Specs:

1 1/2" frame
2-5/8" chambers
Skeleton buttstock
~>90% finish on Damascus barrels (comes with 28" and 30" barrel sets)
Factory case colors mostly silvered over (take a look at the attached photos)
No pitting in bores
Nice re-finish on stock and forends, no major nicks/dings in the wood

My best estimate is between $5,000-$6,000, but I am concerned about the lack of quality factory case colors.

The latest Blue Book estimate I have access to is almost 20 years old, so I'm guessing that significantly under estimates the current value.

Any thoughts on this?

[Bruce Hering]

You might want to/need to read through this entire post:

http://parkerguns.org/forums/showthread.php?t=33255

[Dean Romig]

Without precise barrel wall thickness measurements it is impossible to assign a value.
The screws appear to be about perfect and the overall condition looks pretty nice but...





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[Garry L Gordon]

Is this the same gun that is listed on GI at $5800? The listing number is: 101659278

[Brian Dudley]

Remember the last time this happened...

Yup, the gun is currently for sale on GI.

I dont get it... Why can people just not be honest and straight forward with their intentions?

[Dean Romig]

Is this the same gun that is listed on GI at $5800? The listing number is: 101659278


Yup - same gun, judging by the grain of the wood.





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[John Davis]

I don't know that I see anything dishonest about the original post. He doesn't say he's trying to value it for "insurance purposes" and if he were to say he's got it for sale then he'd be violating the forum rules.

Seems to me he's just trying to figure out if he's got it valued to high. What's the harm in that.

[Tom Eldridge]

John Davis - That is accurate, I am trying to figure out if the gun listed on GI is reasonably priced.

But Mr Dudley seems to read nefarious intentions into a simple question of value. Can you explain what is dishonest about my intentions? I thought not...

To answer the question of barrel wall thickness, this is from the listing:

"For the 28” barrels, the wall thicknesses for the right barrel at 9” from the muzzle are .032/.027/.032 (top/side/bottom) and at the middle of the barrel are .033/.030/.033. For the left barrel the wall thicknesses are .032/.031/.026 and .035/.035/.025, respectively. For the 30” barrels, the wall thicknesses for the right barrels at 9” from the muzzle are .033/.033/.030 and at the middle of the barrel are .038/.041/.035. For the left barrel the wall thicknesses are .035/.035/.032 and .037/.041/.035, respectively."

[Dean Romig]

To answer the question of barrel wall thickness, this is from the listing:

"For the 28” barrels, the wall thicknesses for the right barrel at 9” from the muzzle are .032/.027/.032 (top/side/bottom) and at the middle of the barrel are .033/.030/.033. For the left barrel the wall thicknesses are .032/.031/.026 and .035/.035/.025, respectively. For the 30” barrels, the wall thicknesses for the right barrels at 9” from the muzzle are .033/.033/.030 and at the middle of the barrel are .038/.041/.035. For the left barrel the wall thicknesses are .035/.035/.032 and .037/.041/.035, respectively."


Thanks Tom, I posted my question about wall thickness long before I learned it was for sale elsewhere with those measurements posted.

And those measurements are all well and good but I would much prefer to know the wall thiscknesses along the entire length of the tubes.

I once measures the chokes, chambers and nominal bore diameter of an AHE 16 with original fluid steel Acme barrels. I also measured the wall thicknesses.

As it turned out, the wall thickness on the right tube a bit more than 10 “ from the muzzle was .014” but only on the bottom of the tube and the wall thickness along the length of both tubes was very inconsistent.

And wonder of wonders, both forcing cones were lengthened to between 9” and 10”. This is why I always want to know the wall thickness along the entire length and all around the tube.





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[Reggie Bishop]

I don’t follow 12 gauge guns much, but from what I have seen that gun, in my opinion, is overpriced.

[Jerry Harlow]

https://www.doublegunpreservation.com/pre-1898-inventory

[William Davis]

I can’t price that gun. But have been looking for a nice DH. My thought process would go like this

Looks good passes the internet eye test

28 inch barrels a significant negative. Not for me, don’t mind 28 but any future resale its going to sell slower and for less.

What are the stock dimensions. Many can be ruled out right away if the gun won’t fit its worthless to me.

Is it sound and the dimensions are advertised as right I would want to examine it in person before committing. Even if it requires a drive or flight to see the gun. Probably able go anywhere to examine for 500 bucks. Its worth it. Return privileges shipping back and forth are expensive better to go and look. In person passing mechanical exam & how it feels are the critical test.

Price ? Have Parker’s that were “good deals” and don’t shoot. Others paid “ too much” and love the gun. Price one thing value another. Real value is purchase price less posable resale price divided by how often it’s used . Original cost just one factor. To be honest passing these test a why I shoot a perfect to me VH and still looking for the right DH

William

[Jerry Harlow]

Is it sound and the dimensions are advertised as right I would want to examine it in person before committing. Even if it requires a drive or flight to see the gun. Probably able go anywhere to examine for 500 bucks. Its worth it. Return privileges shipping back and forth are expensive better to go and look. In person passing mechanical exam & how it feels are the critical test.

William

William,

You and the gun are both in Virginia. Should be worth the drive.

[Garry L Gordon]

William,

You and the gun are both in Virginia. Should be worth the drive.

...and it has a set of 30" barrels...