View Full Version : Senator John Warner DHE!!
Dave Noreen
05-04-2021, 06:33 PM
https://www.gunsinternational.com/guns-for-sale-online/shotguns/parker-shotguns/parker-dhe-12-gauge-shotgun-32-quot-bbl-vr-single-trigger-ca-1922.cfm?gun_id=101647506
Especially like the skeleton butt plate!!
Brian Dudley
05-04-2021, 06:40 PM
The buttplate is fine. But the screws... that is a different story.
And to imagine that someone thought all those inlays looked good.
Dean Romig
05-04-2021, 07:52 PM
"with an added vent rib by a very competent gunsmith".... looks original to me judging by the hand-engraved legend which looks exactly like other originals I have seen.
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Ken Hill
05-04-2021, 08:20 PM
Why does the safe show "R" instead of "SAFE"? Is this some type of barrel selector?
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CraigThompson
05-04-2021, 09:00 PM
I could deal with the I think replacement forend but I’d have a hell of a time dealing with the funky inlays .
Dean Romig
05-04-2021, 09:17 PM
I believe the forend is also original... except for the inlays of course.
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Jay Oliver
05-04-2021, 09:27 PM
I have looked at this gun online at some point in the past. I do like seeing someone making a gun their own...
I like it because it's different. All I would need to do is replace the phillips screws in the buttplate and have a spliter forend fitted.
John Davis
05-04-2021, 09:45 PM
If it only had double triggers, I might just be in the market.
Dean Romig
05-04-2021, 10:02 PM
John, it can be converted back to double triggers.
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Phil Yearout
05-04-2021, 10:06 PM
One word: Why?
CraigThompson
05-04-2021, 10:55 PM
I believe the forend is also original... except for the inlays of course.
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You may be correct but I’ll be darned if that isn’t a bulky looking forend .
Dean Romig
05-05-2021, 06:08 AM
Depends on the period. Some were bulky like this one while others had more eye appealing smooth lines.
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Brian Dudley
05-05-2021, 07:37 AM
John, it can be converted back to double triggers.
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With this gun, that would require replacing the whole trigger plate.
And I agree with your assessment dean on the forend. It is completely original to the gun. Or at least is factory work.
William Davis
05-05-2021, 07:43 AM
Why is a good question. Senator Warner was Elizabeth Taylor’s 6th Husband, he liked flash.
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Randy G Roberts
05-05-2021, 08:00 AM
"with an added vent rib by a very competent gunsmith".... looks original to me judging by the hand-engraved legend which looks exactly like other originals I have seen.
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I agree that the rib is original. I would be inclined to think that one went back to PB to have the rib installed at a later date as the receiver does not appear to be a flat top to my eye and we have never seen the PB vent rib duplicated to my knowledge. Maybe our esteemed "Researcher" could take a peek into the past :corn:
Brian Dudley
05-05-2021, 09:12 AM
I agree that the rib is original. I would be inclined to think that one went back to PB to have the rib installed at a later date as the receiver does not appear to be a flat top to my eye and we have never seen the PB vent rib duplicated to my knowledge. Maybe our esteemed "Researcher" could take a peek into the past :corn:
Yes, the gun was not “born” as a VR since it has the concaved frame. But examples of legitimate vent ribs being added on a factory return have been observed on other guns. Everything that is shown of the rib appears that it is factory work. The transition down into the rib extension is not shown though.
Dave Noreen
05-05-2021, 09:21 AM
The gun likely started life with original Parker Bros. SST, see the R and L on the trigger plate --
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and was later converted to a Miller hence the R seen on the top tang.
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The gun is from about 1922 vintage originally, five years before Senator John was born. The beavertail is the shape shown in my repro April 1923 and January 1927 catalogs. The vent rib isn't yet included in the 1923 catalog, but is in the 1927 catalog.
Jay Oliver
05-05-2021, 09:44 AM
I need to stop looking at it on GI or I might end up with it. It is growing on me for some reason.
Chris Travinski
05-05-2021, 09:50 AM
Jay, It needs some love. Don't be shy...
Bill Murphy
05-05-2021, 11:16 AM
"No Parker date for it coming back to the factory"? What's that all about? I believe there is a suspicion that some very early vent rib (factory) guns were made on frames that were not flat. Jake is a volume paraphernalia dealer who has an in with high end Virginia estates, but he is not a Parker expert. Interesting gun but the Warner connection adds nothing to its value, in my opinion. Jake has had the gun for some time.
Joseph Sheerin
05-05-2021, 04:22 PM
For me anyway.... Not that any Parker is ever truly ugly, but this one pushes that envelope.... Never a fan of inlays in the wood of a gun.... Except maybe the small Ebony inlays at front of the forend sort of thing.
To each their own, as it should be.
John Davis
05-05-2021, 04:35 PM
The more I look at her, the more I like her. Alas, I'm afraid an early bird may have already gotten this worm.
Joe Graziano
05-05-2021, 05:41 PM
You guys are missing the point. Why would anyone want John Warner’s shotgun? He was an absolutely horrible US Senator for Virginia. As a former Virginia guy, I still gag a little when I hear his name. Sorry, I got sidetracked. His gun is also butt ugly. On another note, he did keep a framed picture in his office of Liz Taylor. I thought that was endearing.
Mike Franzen
05-05-2021, 05:45 PM
Good Lord! Who on Gods green earth would ever buy such a gun?
John Davis
05-05-2021, 05:58 PM
Well it sold. And if this gun ever showed up at the People's Choice Award, I'd vote for it multiple times. Fortunately there's no voter ID requirement for the PCA.
Mike Franzen
05-05-2021, 06:10 PM
Well it sold. And if this gun ever showed up at the People's Choice Award, I'd vote for it multiple times. Fortunately there's no voter ID requirement for the PCA.
It’s definitely an Upland Game Gun. I think those inlays are actually camouflage. This ugly duck was probably a factory prototype for a turkey gun, lol.
Ken Descovich
05-05-2021, 06:41 PM
It appears he is still living, the new owner may be able to ask questions.
Randy G Roberts
05-05-2021, 07:32 PM
Well it sold. And if this gun ever showed up at the People's Choice Award, I'd vote for it multiple times. Fortunately there's no voter ID requirement for the PCA.
If that"thing" ever shows up at the PC Awards and it will not during my tenure as Chair you can vote all you want John. I'm prolly gonna lie, I mean improvise when I reveal the voting tabulations. :rotf:
Dave Noreen
05-06-2021, 09:56 AM
Looks to me as if it could provide plenty of employment for Brian.
Dean Romig
05-06-2021, 10:41 AM
You guys are missing the point. Why would anyone want John Warner’s shotgun? He was an absolutely horrible US Senator for Virginia. As a former Virginia guy, I still gag a little when I hear his name. Sorry, I got sidetracked. His gun is also butt ugly. On another note, he did keep a framed picture in his office of Liz Taylor. I thought that was endearing.
Let’s topple his statue!!
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