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Jim piccolo
04-15-2021, 12:09 PM
I have a Parker double barrel 10 gauge magnum that I purchased around 1976 from an old timer who was no longer able to get out and hunt ducks or geese in this club I used to belong to. I used it a few times, but that is a lot of fun to haul around in the marshes but it was fun.
I would like to find out the value of my gun for insurance policy.
Any help on where I can proceed would be so greatly appreciated.
Here is the info I have been able to gather so far:

10 gauge magnum
Serial number: 69569
Mfg date: 1891
Frame size: 3
Barrel weight: 6 (then a small 1)
Grade: 2

There is a sling attached to the gun when I purchased it and the owner said it was on there when he got it but no idea when he became the owner.

Kindly,
Jim

Dean Romig
04-15-2021, 01:02 PM
Welcome Jim!

Pictures would be nice - can you post some here?

"Magnum" describing an 1891 Parker is a misnomer.





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Mills Morrison
04-15-2021, 01:56 PM
Welcome Jim! Pictures would help us out a lot

Bill Murphy
04-15-2021, 05:16 PM
Jim, this is a great old ten gauge, but not a magnum. We are looking forward to more information and pictures.

Dave Noreen
04-15-2021, 11:47 PM
I have seen early Parker Bros. 10-gauges rebarreled to the 3 1/2 inch Magnum-10.

In 1891 Parker Bros. 10-gauges were all barreled in Twist or Damascus barrels. Our ammunition companies had for some time offered 10-gauge NPEs in lengths from 2 5/8 inch to 3 1/4 inch. 1891 was the year Union Metallic Cartridge Co. began offering factory loaded shotgun shells. Prior to that shooters loaded their own or had them loaded by their local hardware or sporting goods store. The 10-gauge shells UMC offered in 1891 were loaded with anywhere from 3 3/4 to 5 drams of black powder and 1 to 1 1/4 ounce of shot. Loading with American Wood smokeless powder was $12.50 per thousand extra and with imported Schultze powder $20 per thousand extra.

Jim piccolo
04-16-2021, 12:04 AM
Absolutely will get some photos posted.
Also the gun came with a few brass 10 gauge shells which I was told they were Originally hand loaded and reused but I am not positive on that but one still has primer and wadding in tact.

Thanks all for the prompt and friendly replies.

I am new on this format and hopefully this goes well and I get the photos loaded correctly

Dean Romig
04-16-2021, 06:15 AM
I have seen early Parker Bros. 10-gauges rebarreled to the 3 1/2 inch Magnum-10.

Rebarreled yes but not originally chambered in 3 1/2” and not likely rechambered to 3 1/2”.





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Jim piccolo
04-16-2021, 10:20 PM
[QUOTE=Dean Romig;332050]Welcome Jim!

Pictures would be nice - can you post some here?

"Magnum" describing an 1891 Parker is a misnomer.



I uploaded some photos to an album but I don’t know how to get them on my thread, can you guide me through this, I would like to reply to the others as well that requested photos.

Thank you,
Jim

Russell E. Cleary
04-16-2021, 10:33 PM
PM sent to Jim, but not to stop any other attempts to help.

Dean Romig
04-17-2021, 07:44 AM
I looked at your pictures...

I wonder whatever would posess someone to cut 32” Damascus barrels back like that, and then add fluid steel tubes back on and restamp the rib like that... certainly not Parker Bros.

That is one interesting gun.





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Dave Noreen
04-17-2021, 11:14 AM
Any unusual markings on the barrel flats? Could you add a picture or two of the barrel flats to your album?

Jim piccolo
04-23-2021, 11:50 AM
I looked at your pictures...

I wonder whatever would posess someone to cut 32” Damascus barrels back like that, and then add fluid steel tubes back on and restamp the rib like that... certainly not Parker Bros.

That is one interesting gun.





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I don’t know. The barrels are 32”. How can you tell that “fluid steel barrels were added? I don’t know anything so just wondering, interesting that you know these things. Is there any value to the gun for insurance policy? Where would one proceed to get a value or to resell. I really am interested in off loading as I dont shoot my rifles or shotguns anymore.
Thank you for your knowledge in this.

Dean Romig
04-23-2021, 12:10 PM
Well Jim, you not being a PGCA member, just mentioning you have guns for sale here violates our forum rules.

To know that the barrels were cut back and then fluid steel barrels added takes an understanding of what you're looking at and what to look for.

From the breech end of the barrels up to that welded seam the Damascus pattern is visible but beyond that point to the muzzle there is no pattern and the barrels there are simply steel.





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Jim piccolo
04-28-2021, 10:44 PM
Any unusual markings on the barrel flats? Could you add a picture or two of the barrel flats to your album?

Thank you, apologies for the delay, I added a few today to the album. If you need to see more let me know and I will take some closer photos. I don’t see any other markings.