Another mystery gun "help" thread

[DaveKal]

Hi everyone,

I joined up today to get some help with a Parker that I possess because no one else in the family wanted it---probably because no one knew what it was. It's a "nice" specimen in its own way but certainly not as fine as some that I've seen here. I believe it to be a Grade 2 (G?) with what looks like geese engraved on one side and a Retriever on the buttplate. More on that one at another time.

I also possess this other mystery side-by-side. No markings on it that make any sense for an ID, at least to not to me, so maybe one of you can help.

It's heavy. 31.5" barrels. The oddest thing about it is that it doesn't appear to have ever had a wood forend. Unless I'm missing something it was not made to have one. I'm interested in hearing your thoughts.

Thanks much.

[Harold Lee Pickens]

That long bottom lever pivots to break the gun open, and the smaller one must pivot to release the barrels from the frame. European, perhaps Belgian, many Husquvarnas and other germanic guns used those bottom levers. I dont know much about them, others will chime in I'm sure.

[DaveKal]

Thanks Harold. Yes, that’s exactly how it operates to break it down. I’m quite curious about this shotgun and wouldn’t be surprised if you’re really close as there was a Belgium Meteor in this collection as well.

[Bill Murphy]

It appears to be a Lefaucheux action, used by several companies. It is a very strong action that apparently uses a dual underlock system.

[John Davis]

Looks like Belgium proof marks.

[Harold Lee Pickens]

Is one of the hammers missing? That is a bigger pain in the butt than one might imagine. Can probably find a hammer with the right throw, but getting it timed with the other hammer can be tuff. Is it a 12 ga or 10/

[DaveKal]

Is one of the hammers missing? That is a bigger pain in the butt than one might imagine. Can probably find a hammer with the right throw, but getting it timed with the other hammer can be tuff. Is it a 12 ga or 10/

Sigh...yep, missing the right side hammer. And not only that, the Parker I mentioned above is also missing the same hammer!

Have not confirmed 100% yet but seems to be 10 gauge.

Here's a look at the checkering on the grip:

[DaveKal]

Here are the rest of the pictures. Besides the missing hammer, sadly, the stock is cracked.

[Dean Romig]

Joe Breda may be able to 'reverse engineer' a hammer for you using the left one as a pattern.





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[Harold Lee Pickens]

Getting a Parker hammer will be easier than the other. You will need a hammer with the right throw. Measure it and let us know--I just left an old hammer gun stock and frame with jerry Andrews the other day, I think it was Belgian--can get it back I'm sure.

[DaveKal]

I truly appreciate the information regarding hammer replacements though I likely won't be keeping any of these guns. Well, maybe one for a wall-hanging conversation piece.

My grandfather was given many firearms over the years as forms of payment. He was a business owner who never turned anyone away for lack of money. He accepted guns regardless of condition. He had a combination of hunting and military firearms. Most in so-so condition. I first saw this collection---more like a pile, really---over 30 years ago. Since that time they moved from garages to attics to closets. When my grandfather passed, a few of us took a memory or two and the rest languished in a closet for another 10 years or so. I've been dealing with the remainders and am now down to 7 that I hope to find homes for.

[Harold Lee Pickens]

Looks also to have a gap between breech face and barrels also from the pictures. Would be a project gun for sure, but it certainly is an interesting action.
You mentioned a Grade 2 hammer also, got any pictures of it. I often carry a Grade 2 12 hammer gun for turkeys.