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Stony Smith
03-13-2021, 10:31 AM
Did Parker Repros ever come from the manufacturer with screw-in chokes? Does Briley make and install them on 20 ga Repros?

Greg Baehman
03-13-2021, 11:30 AM
The only Parker Reproductions that had factory-supplied screw-in chokes was the Sporting Clays Classic model. It was only produced in a 12ga. DHE-Grade w/28" bbls. and was supplied from the factory with six choke tubes. It has been reported that there were only 125 SCCs produced, they are rare and as a result they seldom come to market. Below is an unfired SCC in an extremely hard to find configuration: SG, SPL and DT -- I know of only two such examples in an SCC.

Briley, as well as others, have successfully installed choke tubes in some Parker Reproductions. If you're considering having this done with your gun I would recommend proceeding with caution, as some have had issues with aftermarket choke tube installations done where "ghosting" of the threads has shown up as a result insufficient barrel wall thickness in the muzzle area. Reputable gunsmiths will take the necessary measurements before attempting to install screw-in chokes.

Brian Dudley
03-13-2021, 03:01 PM
Briley told me that most repros do not have enough material at the muzzles for their thin wall chokes. If you call them and give them the muzzle ID and OD dimensions, they will tell you of they MAY be able to so it.

Gary Laudermilch
03-13-2021, 03:57 PM
I have a 20 ga with 28" barrels that has Briley thin wall tubes installed. They were in it when I bought it. I have had no problems with it and I have thousands of rounds through it.

John Dallas
03-13-2021, 04:32 PM
If the Sporting Clays Classics have enough meat in the barrels to accept choke tubes, does that imply that they would on average be heavier than comparable non-choke tube guns?

Greg Baehman
03-13-2021, 04:46 PM
If the Sporting Clays Classics have enough meat in the barrels to accept choke tubes, does that imply that they would on average be heavier than comparable non-choke tube guns?
One might think that, but it's not necessarily true. Both of my SCCs that have SG, SPL, DT w/14 3/4" LOP weigh 7 lbs. 3 oz. A Steel Shot Special with the same configuration and having a 14 3/8" LOP weighs the same 7 lbs. 3 oz.

John Dallas
03-13-2021, 04:54 PM
How does a SS Special compare with a regular gun? One might think that the SS gun would also have beefier barrels

Greg Baehman
03-13-2021, 05:18 PM
The only differences that has been reported is that the SSS has slightly different choke geometry and chrome lining through the bores than the standard run of DHEs. Other than those couple of things and contrary to what has been reported the frames and barrels are the same.

I might add that all the SSSs that I'm aware of were stocked with California English Walnut, while most standard DHE Repros were stocked with Claro Walnut, some with California English and a very few in American Black Walnut.

Larry Stauch
03-13-2021, 09:14 PM
Do you think this is California English on my SSS butt stock? The forend looks English.
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Greg Baehman
03-13-2021, 09:58 PM
I would say that it is California English, Larry. I am saying that with some apprehension as the butt doesn't have the type of mineral lines and the appearance we normally associate with the species as does your forend. The color, however; is typical of California English that is seen on many Repros. Perhaps others will weigh in with their thoughts and opinions . . .

Although it has been stated previously that all Steel Shot Specials were stocked with California English we must qualify that with: "Never say never, when it comes to all things Parker".

Bill Murphy
03-14-2021, 08:49 AM
Some Sporting Clays Classics have a flared muzzle to accept the chokes. I have been told that some do not have the flared muzzles. In my opinion, the flared muzzles are not very attractive. I don't know which variety was made when or in what quantity.

John Dallas
03-14-2021, 10:02 AM
K80's are also flared

Brian Dudley
03-14-2021, 05:41 PM
Choke tube barrels just need more material out at the muzzles. Not the whole length of the tubes. I will say that the factory choke tube barrels are overall wider than standard barrels. Meaning that the tubes are spaced farther apart due to the muzzles being thicker. This would mean that a beavertail forend from a standard set of barrels may not fit onto a set of choke tube barrels.

Bill Murphy
03-14-2021, 07:34 PM
John, K-80s are not attractive either. Not a criticism, because I shoot Krieghoffs. Beauty is not something necessary on a K gun. My lovely wife's K gun has screw chokes and is not flared, but it is still ugly.

Bruce Hering
03-14-2021, 11:43 PM
The "K" gun series guns from Krieghoff are designed as one of the top end competition guns and that is that. My, K80 Gold Super Scroll Blue is a great gun for what it was deigned for. I have two fixed choke barrels and they do what I want them to do. I must admit they may not be as sleek as a SxS but they do the job and I like shooting them. They hold up quite well under fire after over the 1000's of rounds I and my students have put through mine.
Horses for courses.....

JMHO

Billy Gross
03-15-2021, 07:18 AM
The relevantly new K-gun Parcours barrels are not flared. They come with fixed chokes and Briley Thin Walls. They are a little lighter then the standard barrels. I am shooting 30" in 12 Ga. and 28 Ga. and love them. Billy

Bruce Hering
03-15-2021, 11:57 AM
The relevantly new K-gun Parcours barrels are not flared. They come with fixed chokes and Briley Thin Walls. They are a little lighter then the standard barrels. I am shooting 30" in 12 Ga. and 28 Ga. and love them. Billy

Billy:

The Parcours special is a sweet gun. I shot one quite a bit trying it out and almost traded for one. I really liked the feel... a good bit different then the Std K 80 and the forearm is quite different.

Greg Baehman
03-15-2021, 12:57 PM
I wouldn't trade a Parker Reproduction Sporting Clays Classic for a boatload of Krieghoffs.

Mostly True Story: Once upon a time I shot a Krieghoff. Its handling characteristics had the look and feel of swinging a big ol' shiny metal gate. Yeah, it did.

John Dallas
03-15-2021, 03:11 PM
In the last 10 years, how many Parkers have finished ahead of Krieghoffs in national competitions?

Greg Baehman
03-15-2021, 03:35 PM
In the last 10 years, how many Parkers have finished ahead of Kreighoffs in national competitions?

I can personally guarantee there has never been a Kreighoff that has finished ahead of any Parker, let alone a Sporting Clays Classic, in any competition, national or local. :whistle:

Donovan Kirkpatrick
03-24-2021, 02:48 PM
The only Parker Reproductions that had factory-supplied screw-in chokes was the Sporting Clays Classic model. It was only produced in a 12ga. DHE-Grade w/28" bbls. and was supplied from the factory with six choke tubes. It has been reported that there were only 125 SCCs produced, they are rare and as a result they seldom come to market. Below is an unfired SCC in an extremely hard to find configuration: SG, SPL and DT -- I know of only two such examples in an SCC.

Briley, as well as others, have successfully installed choke tubes in some Parker Reproductions. If you're considering having this done with your gun I would recommend proceeding with caution, as some have had issues with aftermarket choke tube installations done where "ghosting" of the threads has shown up as a result insufficient barrel wall thickness in the muzzle area. Reputable gunsmiths will take the necessary measurements before attempting to install screw-in chokes.

Kenny, I have an unfired one. Mine has single trigger and did not come with all the tubes or wrench.

Greg Baehman
03-24-2021, 08:57 PM
Donovan, is your gun stamped "ISC" on the barrel flats in the same area as the choke designations are normally stamped on all Parker Reproductions?

Donovan Kirkpatrick
03-24-2021, 11:29 PM
Greg, will check later. Its in the back of my safe.

John Davis
03-25-2021, 05:21 AM
In the last 10 years, how many Parkers have finished ahead of Krieghoffs in national competitions?

In the last 10 years, how many Parkers have been shot in national competitions?

Donovan Kirkpatrick
03-25-2021, 06:34 AM
Greg, will check later. Its in the back of my safe.

Shotgun does have "ISC" on the flats and it has 6 chokes. I must have been thinking about a different gun.