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Stan Hoover
03-13-2021, 12:32 AM
Hello Gentleman,
So I picked up a case of 8 gauge Industrial loads, it is 1 heavy case of ammo:eek:

My intent was to pull these down, swage the bases and reload light loads for clays and maybe also some for spring turkey. I agreed to the purchase without actually seeing the ammo and when I received it, I was surprised to find how much lower the bases are on these than the current Winchester 8 gauge hulls being offered.

I thought they may fit in the chamber since there is no visible rib like the newer Winchester hulls being offered, it does not fit, the complete bases seems to be larger.

My question is, has any of you 8 gauge reloaders experimented with this Winchester Super X hull and or should I be just sticking with the newer 8 Winchester hulls being offered? I haven’t took the time, but I will probably being calling Tom Arbrust to see if he can offer a recommendation.

Thanks,
Stan Hoover

charlie cleveland
03-13-2021, 09:51 AM
I have not seen these low brass shells before...hope you are able to do some thing with them....charlie

edgarspencer
03-13-2021, 10:25 AM
I no longer have my 8ga swedge dies, but the type I had would allow you to push loaded shells in the press then out with the ejector ram. Even though those don't have the double layer of sheet brass, the base diameter is the same as the industrial shells like Remington and Winchester. Good score. how much shot is in them?

Bill Murphy
03-13-2021, 11:06 AM
What a load for whitetails. Or maybe American Bison at close range! Yup, tell us how many pellets.

CraigThompson
03-13-2021, 12:31 PM
They’re still loading that exact load or atleast the #CE8B2LVP . https://winchesterindustrial.com/loads.html

CraigThompson
03-13-2021, 12:51 PM
A friend gave me two dozen of these . They seem to reload okay .

Stan Hoover
03-14-2021, 01:02 PM
They’re still loading that exact load or atleast the #CE8B2LVP . https://winchesterindustrial.com/loads.html

Craig,
You are correct, this load is still being offered. I pulled one apart last evening and it pretty well matches the current CE8B2LVP load, 3 ounces of 00 buckshot for a count of 24 pellets.

CraigThompson
03-14-2021, 03:50 PM
Craig,
You are correct, this load is still being offered. I pulled one apart last evening and it pretty well matches the current CE8B2LVP load, 3 ounces of 00 buckshot for a count of 24 pellets.

You have 500 of these ?

Stan Hoover
03-14-2021, 04:52 PM
Craig,
it is a case of 250.
Stan

Bill Murphy
03-15-2021, 08:10 AM
If it is truly low velocity, maybe it is safe in normal 8 gauge shotgun. Wow. 24 00 buck.

edgarspencer
03-15-2021, 09:33 AM
What type of wad do these loads use?

Stan Hoover
03-15-2021, 08:49 PM
What type of wad do these loads use?

Edgar,
This is a picture of all of the components used in these shot shells, although I’m missing one pellet. Not sure what the powder is, what I didn’t lose while pulling it apart, weighed 29.1 grains.
Stan Hoover

Milton C Starr
04-01-2021, 04:13 PM
Ammo one has had some of these low brass 8 gauge shells for years . Always thought they looked neat .

CraigThompson
04-02-2021, 09:12 AM
Edgar,
This is a picture of all of the components used in these shot shells, although I’m missing one pellet. Not sure what the powder is, what I didn’t lose while pulling it apart, weighed 29.1 grains.
Stan Hoover

I’d be curious to know the alloy of the buckshot . The three sizes I cast myself are generally plain old wheelweight alloy or at most water quenched wheelweights . I’ve not had an opportunity to try the 000000 but the 0000 and 00000 knock a deer ass over teacups if you do your part .

Stan Hoover
04-02-2021, 04:12 PM
I’d be curious to know the alloy of the buckshot . The three sizes I cast myself are generally plain old wheelweight alloy or at most water quenched wheelweights . I’ve not had an opportunity to try the 000000 but the 0000 and 00000 knock a deer ass over teacups if you do your part .

Craig,

I'd be glad to show you some or maybe you would be interested in all the buckshot for reloading purposes?

I plan to be at the Southern.

Stan

CraigThompson
04-02-2021, 10:46 PM
Craig,

I'd be glad to show you some or maybe you would be interested in all the buckshot for reloading purposes?

I plan to be at the Southern.

Stan

Bring some with you I’d atleast like to look at it ! I’ll bring a few 00 Hornady pellets and a couple of my cast 0000 and a pair of large channel locks to squeeze them in comparison . I wish I had a hardness gauge but I don’t . Still squeezing or checking hardness won’t tell us the alloy .