12 ga SS special, 20, & 28 on gunbroker

[David C Porter]

https://www.gunbroker.com/item/892761396
https://www.gunbroker.com/item/892763686
https://www.gunbroker.com/item/892765688

[Greg Baehman]

In a follow-up to the above post . . . it's good to see that all three of these Parker Reproductions garnered some spirited bidding and sold at higher prices than what we've come to see as of late. All three were in high to near mint condition, albeit with single selective triggers. Do you think they would have realized even higher selling prices had they been equipped with double triggers? Do you think the single selective triggers were a positive or a negative regarding selling prices? How about the beavertail fore-ends?

In order of the above links:
* 12ga. DHE Steel Shot Special with a SG, BT, SST brought $5913.00
* 28ga. DHE SG, BT, SST sold for $8050.00
* 20ga. DHE having a PG, BT, SST sold for $4725.00

[Bob Jurewicz]

I have watched Parker Reproduction sales and pricing for a long long time now. I am of the belief that if compared, the price of two identical guns except for trigger, the double trigger gun would sell for more. Beavertail forends appear to have advantage over splinter. Straight stock has price advantage over pistol grip.
I believe our S/S interest has its roots in the vintage guns. To me the single trigger is an over/under configuration. I don't usually buy a side by side with single triggers unless it is something very special like a very nice 20 GA DHE, an A1 Special 20 GA Skeet upgrade by DelGrego and Runge or a rare 1 of 3 LC Smith 20 GA early grade 1E.
Bob Jurewicz

[Bill Murphy]

$8050 for a 26" single trigger 28 gauge Repro?? I just hit the PRINT button.

[David Holes]

Looks like 28s are a sound investment. Congrats to everyone who purchased one prior

[Greg Baehman]

$8050 for a 26" single trigger 28 gauge Repro?? I just hit the PRINT button.
You're right Bill. At eight thousand bucks we're now into real money territory -- well beyond shooter money.

[Gary Laudermilch]

I don't watch 28's closely but it seems a guy could buy one similarly equipped for considerably less. What is so remarkable about this gun that commanded that high a price? I think maybe somebody just gets caught up in the bidding process.

[David Noble]

On the SSS 12ga, the bidding from $5700 pretty much went back and forth between two bidders, so yeah, I think they got into a bidding war. At the end of the day, a gun is valued at what the highest bidder is willing to pay.

[David C Porter]

The guns were in as new condition & with the original boxes. When you keep them original & clean they usually get top $$. Also, good pictures & detailed descriptions help, too.

[Bill Murphy]

Actually, two bidders were willing to pay $8000 for the 26" 28 gauge.:rotf:

[Bob Jurewicz]

L-S&B is a big seller on GB. They advertize and promote their auctions. It pay off with good sale price results.
Bob Jurewicz

[Greg Baehman]

The 12ga. DHE Steel Shot Special that is one of the subjects in this thread carries S/N 12SS-00237 and is yet another example of a SSS model with a S/N of less than #350.

I've asked this before and haven't gotten a response, so I'll ask it again . . . have you seen, heard or know of a SSS that is stamped with the SS markings that has a S/N higher than 12SS-00350?

Bonus question . . . what is the earliest or lowest S/N of the SS factory-stamped guns?

[Paul Brannon]

I have SS 12-0064

[Joel Hackett]

Mine is SS 12-0194, straight grip, dual triggers, 28" barrels.

[allen newell]

David, my dad was in real estate and would say that a house is only worth what someone is willing to pay for it. Same holds true here..

[John Allen]

I ordered the SS marked guns when I worked for Jaegers. We placed an order for 350 guns. They all came through Jaegers which was a division of Dunns in Grand Junction,Tn at the time. They actually shipped 360 guns. We had them marked SS to differentiate our guns from standard production guns. We were so successful with the SS guns that Parker Repro came out with their own steel shot specials which are not SS marked. To my knowledge,all SS marked guns are less than 360 serial range.

[Scott Gentry]

Ask John about the lowest numbered SSS, I have shot it and it lives pretty close to him.

[tom tutwiler]

I bought a 28 gauge in excellent condition last year from the same dealer with double triggers and Q1 and Q2 chokes with a splinter. Price a tad less then 5 K. I think it would bring more money today.

[Greg Baehman]

I ordered the SS marked guns when I worked for Jaegers. We placed an order for 350 guns. They all came through Jaegers which was a division of Dunns in Grand Junction,Tn at the time. They actually shipped 360 guns. We had them marked SS to differentiate our guns from standard production guns. We were so successful with the SS guns that Parker Repro came out with their own steel shot specials which are not SS marked. To my knowledge,all SS marked guns are less than 360 serial range.


Before others start believing that a standard production 12ga. Parker Reproduction DHE w/28" bbls., 3" chambers, factory choked IC/M get carried away thinking it's the same thing as a bonafide Steel Shot Special ought to consider a couple of important details that differentiate a Steel Shot Special from the standard production guns.

1. The Steel Shot Special has chrome lining through the choke area, the standard production guns do not.

2. The choke geometry is different in the Steel Shot Special. Reportedly the Steel Shot Special choke area is longer than the standard production guns.

* Another little detail I've observed is that a Steel Shot Special with the SS stamps as part of the serial number will, in nearly all cases, command a higher price on the secondary market than the standard production guns -- sometimes as much $2000 - $3000 more.

To my way of thinking a standard 12-ga. Repro DHE w/28" bbls., 3" chambers and choked IC/M is not a Steel Shot Special unless it also has "SS" factory stamps as part of the serial number. You're free to come up with a looser definition if you'd like, but that's mine.

"It's the itty-bitty details that make the big-big difference."

[Gary Laudermilch]

$2-3k difference is only a positive if you are selling. Supposedly all repros are steel shot safe or so the advertising suggested. The unstamped gun I shot this morning made a mess of targets and also doves when I used it for them. Collectors can care about the SSS serial number and that is great. At least this shooter could care less about the additional characters in the serial number.

[Greg Baehman]

I'm going to go out on a limb and say this fella subscribes to a very loose definition of a Steel Shot Special. How about that ventilated rib, too? Buyer beware.

https://www.gunsinternational.com/guns-for-sale-online/shotguns/parker-shotguns-reproduction/parker-reproduction-12-ga-steel-shot-special.cfm?gun_id=101967947

[Brian Dudley]

The installation of those sling swivels easily cuts the value of that gun in half, for most buyers.

[Greg Baehman]

The installation of those sling swivels easily cuts the value of that gun in half, for most buyers.
So that sounds similar to what happens when one grinds metal out their 28ga. Repro's luscious M/F chokes. :glug: :duck:

[Karl Ferguson]

So that sounds similar to what happens when one grinds metal out their 28ga. Repro's luscious M/F chokes. :glug: :duck:

Luscious is one word that never crossed my mind years ago when I thought about my Repro's 28 ga unrealistic M&F chokes... but after I had Briley open them up I can see now where luscious would describe them well :whistle:

[edgarspencer]

I'm surprised at you, Greg. You didn't go bonkers with the sling swivels.

[edgarspencer]

The installation of those sling swivels easily cuts the value of that gun in half, for most buyers.

They never troubled me. Lots of plantation hunters required them.

[Greg Baehman]

I'm surprised at you, Greg. You didn't go bonkers with the sling swivels.
I don't know why you'd be surprised, Edgar. Sling swivels can be a very practical and useful item in many of the duck hunting situations I've done. Many times for many seasons we'd boat up or down Wisconsin's Wolf River to get to some of the potholes we'd hunt, tie the boat up to the river bank, hike through woods in the dark using flashlights carrying a bag of decoys, guns, etc. along with marsh skis that we'd use once getting to the boggy marshes and potholes where we'd set up. I used a slip-on sling for my double guns, but those slings or sling swivels were almost a necessity in those situations.

[edgarspencer]

I don't know why you'd be surprised, Edgar. Sling swivels can be a very practical and useful item in many of the duck hunting situation.

I was surprised that you didn’t criticize their installation, because you’re frequently critical of alterations, “dreamers” if I recall you called those who alter chokes. As to the practicality of sling swivels, I totally agree with you. Shocked aren’t you.
Very rarely do I give a rats ass about alterations to a gun I own. I’m not a flipper, overly concerned about exit value. That’s not to say I won’t sell a gun but I know what I like and usually know if something has been fussed with in a gun I’m considering. Between my dad and I, I dare say we’ve had over 100 Parkers but that goes back to 1935, when he sold his Model A (Ford) in order to buy a DHE 20 from the head nurse at the Troy NY hospital where he work while in college. He had a dozen before he even met my mother.

[charlie cleveland]

love those stories...charlie

[allen newell]

Edgar, you have a wonderful way with words. And a good sense of humor too

[George M. Purtill]

Edgar, you have a wonderful way with words. And a good sense of humor too

Yes Edgar is very special.

[edgarspencer]

Yes Edgar is very special.

Short Bus Special?