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Brent Francis
01-09-2011, 06:48 PM
I was looking at a DH 20ga two barrel set sn 82403 one barrel set was 28 in damascus the other was 30 inch titanic steel. both forends had the same sn and the stock had a straight english style grip. Can anybody tell me what the original configuration for this gun was?

Dave Suponski
01-09-2011, 06:58 PM
Brent, The 28" damascus barrels are original to the gun and it left Meriden as a straight grip.A letter may explain the Titanic barrels.

Brent Francis
01-09-2011, 07:08 PM
Thanks, Gun shows normal wear no color and there are a few small dents in both barrel sets but overall looks pretty honest and the action is fairly tight the wood is very good. Anybody care to suggest what a fair price on something like that.

Rich Anderson
01-09-2011, 07:40 PM
Is this the gun from Cabelas in Washington state?

Rich Anderson
01-09-2011, 07:42 PM
Was this the gun cabelas had in Washington?

Ed Blake
01-09-2011, 07:42 PM
Who cares what the original configuration is, buy it.

Brent Francis
01-09-2011, 07:49 PM
thats the one I suppose its probably gone by now

Rich Anderson
01-09-2011, 08:43 PM
It's long gone. I have a friend in the Gun Library at one of the Minnesota stores and he asked them to send it to him. They (Washington store) said the gun couldn't leave the store untill Jan 7 and to forget about it untill then. We called on the 7th and it was sold to someone who looked at it the day befor:shock: It wasn't supposed to be out.

A typical example of Cabelas...either they price things to high or underprice them. This was underpriced by almost 100%.

Brent Francis
01-09-2011, 08:56 PM
Too bad, I bet Cabellas phone is ringing off the hook on that one. But I knew it was too good to be true.

Jay Gardner
01-09-2011, 09:01 PM
Typical Cabelas BS, either 100% high or 100% low. As for call back after the 7th, that rings familier as well. Rumor has it that Cabelas is getting out of the high-end gun market. Good riddance.

Jay Gardner
01-09-2011, 09:14 PM
Straight grip, 20 ga DH with 28" damascus barrels? Thinking that configuration is about as rare as a rocking horse turd.

Brent Francis
01-09-2011, 09:23 PM
. I wish I had walked into that store on the 6th the guy who got it must of felt like he won the lottery

Eric Eis
01-10-2011, 10:28 AM
Brett if you had walked in the the 6th you still would not have gotten it. I called on this gun on Dec 7th and was told they could not sell it until Jan 7 (state law waiting period) I offered to put it on my credit card full price and hold it until they could sell it on Jan 7, "No we can't do that", Said the salesperson on the phone. I asked why not you are getting your money a month sooner, his reply it was too confussing :banghead:. Do we see a pattern here...... Oh also tried to talk to the GL manager of course he was busy. I call on Jan 6th and asked about the gun and was told the same thing "we can't talk about that gun until Jan 7th "period". Come to find out the way it was explained to Rich's friend on Jan the 7 th, person came in on Jan the 6th was shown the gun and he put a hold on the gun and bought it on Jan 7th, very odd since I was told they could not even talk about the gun on Jan the 6th (but they could show it?) Gee wonder if an employee or employee's friend somehow bought that gun....?:cuss: Too bad no high level executives look at this website so they could see the slimy way some of these transactions are being done. And yes Cabelas lost another customer and I will try to convince others to do the same. Sorry for the rant. Eric

Steve Huffman
01-10-2011, 10:44 AM
What did the gun sell for ?

Jay Gardner
01-10-2011, 10:50 AM
Gee wonder if an employee or employee's friend somehow bought that gun....?:cuss:

More likely one of the employees bought the gun, which would not surprise me at all. Just wondering when the gun will show up on Gunbroker or one of the other auction sites for sale at 2x the price. Like I said, that configuration is very rare and highly coveted - it'll show up somewhere.

Eric Eis
01-10-2011, 01:40 PM
More likely one of the employees bought the gun, which would not surprise me at all. Just wondering when the gun will show up on Gunbroker or one of the other auction sites for sale at 2x the price. Like I said, that configuration is very rare and highly coveted - it'll show up somewhere.

I am sure Jay you are right....Eric

Brent Francis
01-10-2011, 04:55 PM
I guess maybe they post some of these to get attention. Ive got to admit it worked on me I couldnt pass up the DH on the same page for 800. screws are bad and the recoil pad is really bad. But for 800 I figured one more project gun wont kill me.

Rich Anderson
01-10-2011, 07:57 PM
The gun sold for 3K:eek: A gun needs to be in inventory for at least 120 days befor an employee can buy it, if memory serves that is now the policy.

The Washington store should have honored the request from the MN store to ship it when it became available on 1/7. They chose to ignore that request.

Jay Gardner
01-10-2011, 08:10 PM
$3,000? That makes me sick. Any idea how many 20 ga D-grades were made in this configuration with a straight stock?

Eric Eis
01-10-2011, 08:30 PM
$3,000? That makes me sick. Any idea how many 20 ga D-grades were made in this configuration with a straight stock?

Jay don't ask..:crying: I have still not gotten over this one. Eric

Travis Newman
01-10-2011, 08:42 PM
The 20 ga had no safety also. I looked at the other DH but thought I had too many projects.

Brent Francis
01-10-2011, 09:55 PM
I hadnt noticed the lack of a safety. Its funny of all the hammerless double shotguns Ive looked at I seem to run across the no safety only on parkers and Ive seen it several times over the years. I wonder how it affects value, I guess they are rare but anyone who wants one for hunting wouldnt want it.

Brent Francis
01-10-2011, 10:05 PM
PS even without a safety I would have gladly bought it for 3 Gs. I actually talked to the gun room guy about it this morning since it was still showing as available on the internet. I couldnt get much out of him other than it was "sale pending".

Dean Romig
01-10-2011, 10:14 PM
I can't imagine why a Parker without a safety wouldn't be a desirable hunting gun...

The lack of a safety switch on the top tang doesn't render the gun 'unsafe'. In such cases we simply open the breech and it is safe until it is again closed.

Brent Francis
01-10-2011, 10:32 PM
I hear you, I guess it shouldnt be a problem but its not what Im used to

Gary Rennles
05-11-2015, 12:02 AM
I know that this post is 4 years old, but I found some information about this gun.
I just thought if someone ended up with it, they would like to know some of its history.
This gun was used and tested for a article in Sporting Life in 1900.
Gun was tested for velocity and pattern against a 12 gauge Parker.

link to original article:
http://library.la84.org/SportsLibrary/SportingLife/1900/VOL_35_NO_21/SL3521013.pdf


Ballistic tests made at Bridgeport, Conn.,
May 3, 1900, over the range and on
chronograph of the Union Metallic Cartridge
Company. Tests made by Mr. Wm. M. Thomas
and his assistant, Mr. Howard D. Hodge.
Parker gun No. 82403, 20 gauge. Length of
barrel, 30 inches. Titantic steel. Both barrels
full choke, chambered for 3-inch cases. Shell
3-inch Smokeless U. M. C., 20 gauge. Powder-
Hazard Blue Ribboa, 2-1/2 drams, say 31 grains.
Shot Tatham's 7/8 of an ounce, No. 7 chilled.
Wads Trap 3/8-inch Express, 3/8 in Black edge
"C" card all 20 gauge.

Velocity in feet 40...........Pattern in 30-inch
yards from muzzle..................Circle.
908.................................194
915.................................223
919.................................237
929.................................191
920.................................202
904.................................211
896.................................222
918.................................226
909.................................214
918.................................214

Average 913.6 ft. s. ............average 213.9 Pellets
Variation 33 ft. s. ...............variation 46 Pellets





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