Info needed PH grade

[Don Strelioff]

I came across a PH grade sn
199283
As for condition not known
Would this be a twist steel gun ?
Not much info on a ph grade
If anyone would like shed some light please do.
Thanks

[Steve Huffman]

This is a 12ga with 26in Parker Steel Barrels with a capped stock Sounds intresting

[Steve Huffman]

Don ,With those Parkers you been getting you should join the PGCA and order some letters on your guns. I see you have been a forum associate since 2015 . Might pay off to buy a serialization book too a lot of good info in it .

[Don Strelioff]

Don ,With those Parkers you been getting you should join the PGCA and order some letters on your guns. I see you have been a forum associate since 2015 . Might pay off to buy a serialization book too a lot of good info in it .

Yes that sounds like a good idea
I’m waiting for more info this may possibly be a skeet gun

[Don Strelioff]

Small bit of new info 1 frame 3 lb bbl
A crude choke test with a dime reveals it can have a dime inserted from the muzzle end

[Steve Huffman]

What is the barrel length ? Its a 12 ga maybe open chokes and a letter might tell you how it was ordered

[Don Strelioff]

The bbl is 26”

[Dean Romig]

Yes that sounds like a good idea
I’m waiting for more info this may possibly be a skeet gun



No, that serial number is way too low for a Skeet gun. Skeet wasn't even named until 1926 and Parker didn't even reference Skeet chokes until 1932.





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[Bill Murphy]

Serialization Book, 29.95.What is the problem?

[Don Strelioff]

Serialization Book, 29.95.What is the problem?

The bbl is 26” so it has been cut .
My speculation about it been used for skeet is because the fellow that owned it had a model 21 skeet gun .
More speculation he cut the bbl’s and shot skeet with it .

[Steve Huffman]

The bbl is 26” so it has been cut .
My speculation about it been used for skeet is because the fellow that owned it had a model 21 skeet gun .
More speculation he cut the bbl’s and shot skeet with it .

Did you read my post about the barrel length from the serialization book from what the book has IT HAS NOT BEEN CUT ! Bill is asking you to buy a book for $29.95 !

[Jim DiSpagno]

Reread the top posts. It’s a 1 frame capped pg and 26” Parker steel bbls

[Don Strelioff]

Ok thanks everyone I will do my research.

[Mike Poindexter]

Serialization book says only 1000 PP guns produced. If the chokes are both open (and the dime means virtually nothing) it might well work as a skeet gun for you. Probably not trap, and not clays. This gun would normally have a somewhat higher value than a comparable gun with twist barrels. Good luck!

[Dean Romig]

Cool..... my 9 lb. 10 ga. Lifter has uncut 30” Damascus barrels and I have shot a LOT of Skeet with it, but that doesn’t make it a Skeet gun... by any means.





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[Dean Romig]

Serialization book says only 1000 PP guns produced. If the chokes are both open (and the dime means virtually nothing) it might well work as a skeet gun for you. Probably not trap, and not clays. This gun would normally have a somewhat higher value than a comparable gun with twist barrels. Good luck!



Mike - please explain what a "PP gun" is. I'm at a loss...





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[Jim DiSpagno]

Abbreviation for Parker Steel in the ser book

[Dean Romig]

Oops, my error - edited.




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[Don Strelioff]

Thanks for your input mike as invalid as it

[Don Strelioff]

This is a 12ga with 26in Parker Steel Barrels with a capped stock Sounds intresting
Here are the specs
26” bbl’s
Left bbl bore .729 Muzzle .714”

Right bbl bore .729 muzzle .704
Bbl weight 3.7 lbs
Frame no .1
Parker steel bbl’s

[Dean Romig]

Ok I understand what you mean. Skeet can be shot with any barrel length or choke combination. Some folks do pretty well at Skeet with tight chokes, some not so well.
But the fact that somebody might have shot Skeet with it doesn’t make it a Skeet gun.





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[Don Strelioff]

I know it’s not a skeet gun it is choked perfectly for field use .
It’ has a interesting bbl configuration for that time period.
My 1928 vhe is 30”
.735 bore and .690 at the muzzle very tight

[Mike Franzen]

Can you post some pictures?

[Don Strelioff]

Had a very enjoyable fall hunting birds with the PH grade gun
A detailed choke measurment
Right bbl light mod
Left bbl imp mod
Worked well on sharp tailed grouse and shot some ducks with 1 1/8 oz bismuth
loads
It was my go to gun this fall

[Bill Murphy]

Don, you originally described reversed chokes in your P grade. Are they actually reversed? If so, the left barrel may have been bored out a bit. What bore micrometer are you using. The reason I ask is that .045 is an unusual choke measurement for a Parker.