View Full Version : Late Parker Remington GHE 20 ga.
gregg conley
01-19-2021, 01:52 PM
Looking on Gun Broker and saw this gun. I'm not that familiar with the guns made at Remington. Seller says Remington used higher grade wood on these guns. It does have really knockout figured wood. Does this gun look correct to my fellow Parker Collectors? Has it been restocked and recased in your opinion. Gun Broker auction number 889489475. Thanks.
Reggie Bishop
01-19-2021, 02:16 PM
Looks to be a complete restoration. I can't comment on the originality of the wood to the gun. Remington guns do tend to have better wood/grade than earlier guns. The front bead appears to have been glued on.
John Dallas
01-19-2021, 02:18 PM
Folks who are a lot more knowledgable that I will give a better response, I'm sure, but I question the authenticy of the stock. Poor fit of the butt plate and non-mullered border seems strange to me, but still a really clean gun
Brian Dudley
01-19-2021, 02:31 PM
Some may be interested to know that this is the same Seller who was selling the "Museum Quality" 28g a few weeks ago that got so much chatter in the members only section of the board. There was a LOT of issues and questions about that gun. And the seller basically ignored many inquiries from people who asked questions of him through gunbroker.
I cannot comment much not he originality of the gun since I cannot easily say for sure one way or another...
But I will point out my thoughts on a few of the things mentioned already in this thread.
1: Yes, very nigh grade wood on low grade Parkers was very common in the Ilion made guns.
2: The fit of the buttplate should not be looked at too harshly as that can happen due to climate changes with the wood and moisture. A new plate can be fitted to a gun perfectly and 6 months later the fit can be off one way or another due to shrinking and swelling of the wood.
3: The lack of a mullered border is perfectly normal for an Ilion manufactured gun.
Dave Noreen
01-19-2021, 03:19 PM
Just food for thought. Here is the grip checkering on a GHE with a bit lower serial number --
92206
The gun in question --
92207
and a GHE with a bit higher serial number --
92208
Andrew Sacco
01-19-2021, 03:20 PM
I remember that 28 and I learned a LOT from that thread. To my untrained eye the first thing I noticed was the obvious new case colors over some areas that had been worn in the past. The butt plate I wondered about. The grip cap says Meriden but am I correct in assuming that Ilion guns may have those on them to use up stock??
Dean Romig
01-19-2021, 04:50 PM
It is extremely difficult to find ANYTHING wrong with this late Parker.
The checkering and borders are absolutely correct - the wood is what I would expect to see on a Grade 2 Ilion Parker - the grip cap indicating Meriden is pretty typical, not all late ones said Ilion - the fit of the butt plate is a bit suspect... we would have expected the wood to have shrunk rather than swelled - the barrel blue is exactly what we should expect of a low grade Ilion Parker - the list goes on....
The engraving around the screw tip on the top tang behind the safety is a new one on me but who's to say it isn't original?
The case colors look like they could have been done by Turnbull... but judging by the condition of the rest of the gun (which I believe is original) they may very well be original Remington colors.
If I was in the market for a gun such as this one I would pounce on it and keep bidding....
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Reggie Bishop
01-19-2021, 06:51 PM
The case colors and finish on the stock aren’t like any of the Ilion guns I have.
Dave Noreen
01-19-2021, 07:42 PM
The grip cap says Meriden but am I correct in assuming that Ilion guns may have those on them to use up stock?
To date I haven't recorded an Ilion grip cap for an 0-frame or smaller stock. I've only seen them on 1-frame and larger.
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Garry L Gordon
01-19-2021, 07:56 PM
Once again I am reminded of the value of membership in this Association. This is a fascinating thread.
Chris Travinski
01-19-2021, 08:32 PM
Dave,
What's the story with the straight stocked GHE?
Bruce Day
01-19-2021, 08:39 PM
Deleted. Superfluous.
Dave Noreen
01-19-2021, 09:32 PM
Dave,
What's the story with the straight stocked GHE?
Just one of the many pictures I've saved out from the various for sale sites. It is a 12-gauge said to be a skeet gun.
Patrick Lien
01-19-2021, 11:48 PM
Looking on Gun Broker and saw this gun. I'm not that familiar with the guns made at Remington. Seller says Remington used higher grade wood on these guns. It does have really knockout figured wood. Does this gun look correct to my fellow Parker Collectors? Has it been restocked and recased in your opinion. Gun Broker auction number 889489475. Thanks.
The best part of the ad is the 74 pictures. They might not have a clue about Parker guns but at least they gave us something to look at. The wood and checkering look good to me but the original Remington finish appears to have been removed. A late Remington GHE 20 is a gun that I have looked to buy for some time. I would not touch this one though without being able to inspect it or return it. I would be very concerned about the no chokes, paper thin muzzles, and what appears to be a half mile drop at the heel. JMHO.
Oh, and I like that cue ball out there at the end of the barrels.
PML
gregg conley
01-31-2021, 12:37 AM
A good friend knew of this gun and put me in touch with the owner who as luck would have it was local. I had many questions and he finally said he was going to the auction house Thursday and i could me him there to inspect the gun. Let me tell you what a treat it was to fondle that high condition small bore. The case color and wood are definitely original. Dean you nailed it perfectly. The gun was bought new about 1940 by a great uncle attorney. He rarely used it and was passed down through the family. The only flaw as noted by sharp eyes here is the bead, which the owner said he broke and glued back on. Hopefully i can be the winning bid on this beautiful condition gun. Thanks to the Parker forum for your guidance.
Larry Stauch
01-31-2021, 01:44 PM
I have SN 241421 and my gun shares some of the same characteristics that this gun has. Although, mine has a Parker single trigger and a recoil pad.
Randy G Roberts
02-01-2021, 08:10 AM
Looks like the final selling price was an even 10K.
Paul Ehlers
02-01-2021, 09:40 AM
Looks like the final selling price was an even 10K.
IMO that's an absolutely crazy price for this gun considering some of the issues I see with it. These are some crazy times we're living in right now, one third of the country is out of work and struggling while others are throwing money around like there's no tomorrow!
Maybe the winner of the auction cashed in on the GameStop casino last week :shock::rotf:
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