New to us Parker

[Dawn Lucas]

We just acquired our 1st Parker today, and would like some info. I will add more pictures when I get back home tomorrow night. The serial number is 175655 and was made in 1917. The serial is the same on the trigger guard, the barrel, and the forearm. This is a 12 gauge hammer less side by side with an ejector. There are a couple of dings on the stock, and a couple on the butt cap which has a dog with a bird in his mouth. The barrels are 30 inches. The case color is pretty much non existent externally in the engravings. The bores are bright and not pitted. There is no rust evident. I would like to get a value. And I realize that will be hard until I can get more pictures. Thanks so much in advance!

[John Dallas]

Dawn - Welcome! Parkers are not blued in the engraved areas. Those areas are case hardened, and show the subtle variations on color which is present on the watertable of your gun. Looking forwad to the pix. You may have gotten a good one.

[Brian Dudley]

Asking for a “value” can be a very subjective question.

It would be much easier for you to just tell us what you paid along with posting more photos and users can give you the opinion of if they feel you over paid or not. ??

[Dawn Lucas]

B. Dudley,
I need to insure it. So, I'm not so much worried about what we paid. I was curious if I got good deal but that wasn't the real reason for the post. Value is a range in what these guns go for now based on condition and model. And since I have no knowledge of that, I'm asking people that do.

[Dawn Lucas]

Thanks so much Big D!

[Brian Dudley]

B. Dudley,
I need to insure it. So, I'm not so much worried about what we paid. I was curious if I got good deal but that wasn't the real reason for the post. Value is a range in what these guns go for now based on condition and model. And since I have no knowledge of that, I'm asking people that do.



That is not what your original post states. You said you thought you overpaid.

Values for insurance purposes are best obtained from the Blue Book of Gun Values. It is something that is documented in print that can be provided to an insurance company to support the value. A range of values will be listed based on condition. In the case of average condition and lower grade guns, such as this PH, the blue book values normally exceed actual market values. Which would be beneficial to you in an insurance situation.

[Dawn Lucas]

B. Dudley
I'm pretty good with research and couldn't find any info on a PH. Also, it almost looks like a B to me. Also, I love antique anything. So I really would appreciate all of the information that there is about it.

[Brian Dudley]

It is a PH. Which is a grade 1.

[Dawn Lucas]

B. Dudley thank you. I did read just now on grade 1. Makes sense. These guns are going at auction between 1,300 and 4,900. But really, something is only worth what someone else is willing to pay. We really do have a beautiful gun.

[Dean Romig]

Xxx

[Dawn Lucas]

Dean,
We are not auctioning it. And didn't get it at an auction. I just looked it up and my Google showed me a bunch of auctions. I thought it was worth it so, that really wasn't the point of the post. I really wanted to know the history and approximate value for it. I'll post pictures tomorrow when I get home.

[Michael Moffa]

Dawn, bet it won't be your last. Let us know when you get to a dozen.

[Dean Romig]

Xxx

[Dawn Lucas]

Dean
I don't think it has twisted barrels. Sometime in 1917, Parker started putting fluid steel barrels on grade 1 ph guns. I didn't think you were being argumentative. I'm just looking for info.

[Dean Romig]

Xxx

[Steve Huffman]

You stated in your initial post that your D grade Parker has Twist barrels.
Read the legend on the top rib between the barrels - what does it say, Damascus steel, Titanic Steel or Twist?
It matters not when Parker Bros. introduced Parker Steel barrels on the P grade guns... we’re talking about your D grade and which barrels your gun has.

I’m trying to help you...





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Dean I have not saw where Dawn said she had a D grade She Thought it may be a B Im getting confused

[Dean Romig]

Was I mistaken in what I thought I read?

I will go back and edit out all of my previous posts to this thread in an attempt to clarify this thread.

I may need to apologize to everyone who has taken part in this thread.





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[Steve Huffman]

TOO many Posts Dean you must slow down ! Your getting older . You still have the record !! We forgive you

[Dean Romig]

I had confused this thread with the 0 Frame 16s thread and Bill Quillen's incorrectly identified Parker.


My apologies.





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[Dawn Lucas]

Here are the pictures!

[Dawn Lucas]

I added pictures!

[Harold Lee Pickens]

Nice, looks like a pretty solid, original old gun in good condition.

[David Noble]

That is a nice PH you have. And on a 1 1/2 frame. With the Parker steel barrels, if they have at least 2 5/8" chambers and are sound, they should handle modern shells fine though I would recommend not shooting heavy loads, primarily to protect the 104 year old wood stock. The gun has an extractor not an ejector so it is designated as PH. The PH grade was referred to as a grade 1 gun. I don't see the grade marking on the barrel flats and honestly don't know if they marked grade one barrels as such. I won't put a value on it but I'm sure others will oblige.

[Richard Flanders]

Looks like a very nice P grade.

[Mike Poindexter]

It appears to be an honest, unmolested PH in better condition than many, but not enough to make it a collector piece. With Parker Steel barrels on a 1 1/2 frame (both more desirable) it should bring anywhere from $1000 to $1800 as a nice shooter based on what I've seen in the past couple of years. Although recent online live auction sites have me scratching my head at prices paid for lesser guns. JMHO

[Alfred Greeson]

Nice gun, you will enjoy that one.

[Chris Robenalt]

More pictures would be welcomed Dawn. Sounds like a nice gun!
Chris, AZ

[Chris Robenalt]

I guess I'm a day late and a dollar short! Geeze, I just notice there were 3 pages to this post, and saw the pics. Haha. I think it's a fine looking shooter Dawn, and a 1 1/2 to boot! I would leave it as is and enjoy it!
Chris, AZ

[allen newell]

If it were mine and I had paid less than $1,500 for it, I would send it to a competent gunsmith and have the stock, forend de-oiled and refinished including re-cutting the checkering on stock and forend. I'd leave the metal alone. I'd shoot loads around 1150 fps in it and enjoy the heck out of it.
Just my opinion.