Skeet barrel markings

[jefferyconnor]

Do these barrel markings seem factory to the members? I read previous posts on the site and it seems that skeet guns are normally choked skeet in and skeet out. Also, that there were non-factory restamped guns out there at times. This is from a custom restocked gun listed on GI.

[Reggie Bishop]

No those are not factory skeet markings.

[Dean Romig]

Do these barrel markings seem factory to the members? I read previous posts on the site and it seems that skeet guns are normally choked skeet in and skeet out. Also, that there were non-factory restamped guns out there at times. This is from a custom restocked gun listed on GI.

Those SKEET IN stamps look newer and deeper than the other stamps on the flats. And I have never seen one with the same skeet stamp on both flats. Many of the other Remington stamps are familiar to us but not all of them are. I wonder what the real story of those Skeet stamps is...





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[Brian Dudley]

You have to be very careful when looking at “skeet guns”. They are much like ‘32 fords. There are more oit there than were actually made.

[Scott Janowski]

Looks someone went through a lot of effort to mill off the original choke markings.

[Bill Murphy]

I don't know if those markings are factory, but it is not unheard of for both barrels to have the same markings. Dean, look at the pictures of the AHE .410 skeet gun. As I recall, both markings were the same. What does the letter on this gun say? Extremely late guns were sometimes changed into something different at the factory.

[Dean Romig]

Bill, according to the G&H letter on 241576 the chokes were SKEET IN and SKEET OUT





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[Daryl Corona]

Do the Remington repair codes tell the story?

[Bill Murphy]

Dean, the gun itself has two alike barrels. I don't know how to find my pictures. You are much more organized than I am.

[Dean Romig]

Dean, the gun itself has two alike barrels. I don't know how to find my pictures. You are much more organized than I am.


I have an enormous file of "Other Peoples' Parkers" but I haven't been able to locate the pictures of 241576 yet, but I know I have them someplace. So far all I've found is that G&H (A&F) letter.

Incidentally, I believe 241576 was originally ordered in 1939 by the same person who ordered my .410 SKEET-ER two-barrel set.




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[Dave Noreen]

The original barrel date code is AK, A = March K = 1941. Then there is the repair code PL3, P = June L = 1942. Perhaps that was when a MOD and FULL gun like my December 1940 gun --

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was pulled from inventory, had the chokes changed and was remarked to fill an order. Equally, or even more, likely it was something else. At any rate unless repair ledgers from Remington miraculously appear, all we can do is speculate.

[jefferyconnor]

Looks someone went through a lot of effort to mill off the original choke markings.

I now see what your talking about! The normal location for chokes has oval millings there.

[jefferyconnor]

Those SKEET IN stamps look newer and deeper than the other stamps on the flats. And I have never seen one with the same skeet stamp on both flats. Many of the other Remington stamps are familiar to us but not all of them are. I wonder what the real story of those Skeet stamps is...





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The stampings also seem to have been made with individual letter stamps, as they are not well aligned.

[jefferyconnor]

The original barrel date code is AK, A = March K = 1941. Then there is the repair code PL3, P = June L = 1942. Perhaps that was when a MOD and FULL gun like my December 1940 gun --
was pulled from inventory, had the chokes changed and was remarked to fill an order. Equally, or even more, likely it was something else. At any rate unless repair ledgers from Remington miraculously appear, all we can do is speculate.

Rearcher, Would a Parker letter define much information for this gun? I mainly was looking at it because of how late it is, in the last few hundred, not because it's a Skeet.

[Dave Noreen]

The Research Letter pick from the Home Page shows no information for 242087.

[Reggie Bishop]

Proper skeet markings.

[jefferyconnor]

Proper skeet markings.

Thanks, I note that the letters in the word "skeet" are nicely aligned. Do earlier guns have the SN on the side of the lump vs the pictures myself and Researcher posted?

[Dean Romig]

Yes, they started putting it on the flats after the move to Ilion, I believe.





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[Dave Noreen]

Reggie, thanks for the picture of the skeet choke markings. We can clearly see the LG3, February 1938, repair code marking, but the original barrel date code farther back is partially obscured by the lug and I can't make it out.

[Bill Murphy]

Dean, I dug out the file on AHE .410 # 241,576. I have clear photographs that show SKEET IN and SKEET IN. I have a full file on this gun including some great photographs. I am sending you a PM with one simple question about this gun. The SKEET IN and SKEET IN chokes and the 28" barrels would indicate that the original owner was a competitive skeet shooter. The G&H letter may show who he was. I am reluctant to bother Bob Beach with a question about a gun long gone. Or is it??

[Dean Romig]

Yes Bill, I think we learned the original buyer's identity from Bob Beach back when 241576 was auctioned.






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[Dean Romig]

I found some files I have in my enormous folder titled "Other People's Parkers" (the pictures I took at the Baltimore show of your Curtiss Try Gun are in this folder) and the G&H Letter that Bob had put together noted the chambers as 3" and the chokes as Skeet In and Skeet Out.

With your permission, because you paid for this information, I can post this information here. It's up to you.

The gun was ordered through A&F but was shipped directly from Ilion to the buyer.



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[Bill Murphy]

Post here if you like or PM me. The G&H information is all I am missing.

[Dean Romig]

For those interested and in the spirit of sharing information, the information I received from Bob Beach of Griffin & Howe on Parker .410 Skeet gun number 241576 (the only AHE .410 ever known to have been made) is as follows. There is more in the form of pictures of the gun that I may or may not find, or even have, but if I find them I will share them also,

Incidentally, this H.H. Barnard who ordered this .410 Skeet gun 241576 may also be the Barnard who ordered the .410 SKEET-ER two-barrel set that I once owned. The G&H records show that buyer as Barnard as well.

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[Bill Murphy]

Well, we have finally identified the lucky owner of 241,576. It was displayed last year at a PGCA event. This is another great old thread.

[Bill Murphy]

Can someone please give us the reference to our visit at a PGCA event with the owner of the AHE .410? Was it on this site or in The Parker Pages?