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James Palmer
12-20-2020, 08:53 PM
Got a call on some vintage Ammo. Remington Shur Shot is quite common but I have not seen the 2 inch shells before. Crate goes with the shells.

Any idea on what year these are from and if they were made for a specific use?

J

J. Scott Hanes
12-20-2020, 09:36 PM
Very nice! I have never seen these, either!

JSH

Ken Hill
12-20-2020, 10:29 PM
Intersting shells. The 2" 12 gauge had a following in the UK in the 1930s. I wonder why Remington would have developed 2" shells in the US. What are the other shells in the crate?

Ken

James Palmer
12-20-2020, 10:44 PM
Eley 2 inch.

Dave Noreen
12-20-2020, 11:06 PM
The 12-gauge 2-inch Remington Shur Shot shells seem to be pretty common. They appear regularly in the Wards Auctions. This full box went for $104 in the auction just ended --

91209

I've been aware of them most of my life as my Father had one in his box of assorted shotgun shells in his gun cabinet. His shell is #7 1/2 C. All of them I've seen are Kleanbore so they are after 1931. The load given on the top wad in the shell my Father had is 2 3/4 dram equiv., while the box on Wards is 2 1/2 dram equiv. and your shells James are 2 1/4 dram equiv. all with a 3/4 ounce payload.

One more thing I notice is your shells, James, have the DuPont logo making them after 1934, while the box from the Wards Auction doesn't have the DuPont logo.

Love that label from Abercrombie & Fitch on the case with the name and address of the original purchaser.

James Palmer
12-21-2020, 08:48 AM
Thanks everyone.

Kevin McCormack
12-21-2020, 10:49 AM
I have one box of the shells Dave pictured, and have seen identical ones over the years at gun shows. I dare say the crate is a rarity; I've never seen one of those and the one pictured by James is a nice one. BTW, RST loads 2-inch shells for use in guns chambered thusly.

Dave Noreen
12-21-2020, 01:44 PM
I looked through all of the Remington ammunition catalogs and price lists from 1932 to WW-II that I have access to, which are just about every one. These shells were not a catalog item. They were likely special ordered by large sporting goods dealers who might handle such guns to assure their customers a supply of shells.

Wonder what kind of gun Mrs. Robert ?ucus, Clover Brook Farm, Pawling, NY, had.

James Palmer
12-21-2020, 01:47 PM
Looks like the farm still exists.....

Bill Murphy
12-21-2020, 02:27 PM
2" guns were offered by sellers in the American Rifleman in the thirties. I can't remember the name of the maker. I think Kimball Arms marketed them. Abercrombie and Fitch would be the likely seller of ammunition for these British guns. $104.00 a box? OK, mine are for sale.

Dave Noreen
12-21-2020, 09:50 PM
So the crisp sealed box on Wards sold for $104, so this ratty one is worth $100?

https://www.gunsinternational.com/guns-for-sale-online/gun-parts-accessories/ammo-american-shotgun/remington-shur-shot-2-inch-12-ga-2-pc-full-correct-box.cfm?gun_id=101566656

James Palmer
12-22-2020, 07:00 PM
As requesting here are some additional pics of the label and crate. None of the Remington box's are open but the eley is...

Regards

James

charlie cleveland
12-23-2020, 11:51 AM
neat shells and box....eley made some nice looking shells in the early days.....charlie

Bill Murphy
12-23-2020, 03:22 PM
Holland and Holland listed a 2" 12 gauge gun in the 1939 Stoeger catalog. That would be the kind of gun used at Clover Brook Farm. One of the houses at Clover Brook Farm had 37 rooms.