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Jerry VanHorn
10-01-2020, 03:54 PM
Here are the remains of Ernie Lazor's attempt to build an O/U Parker..I thought the members might like to see the parts. The work is very good. A 16 gauge shell fits loosely..so might be a 12 if finished...These came from the engraver that Lazor hired to do the guns. He thinks he did 7 or 8.. The receiver has the trigger plate installed..but the other trigger plate is much smaller..

todd allen
10-01-2020, 04:54 PM
What's the story on this project?

Jerry VanHorn
10-01-2020, 05:36 PM
The "elders" are much more versed on this attempt to produce another Parker than I am. I have heard of the project..but have never seen a completed gun. I'm sure one of the old guard will chime in..

Brian Dudley
10-01-2020, 07:34 PM
There was a completed example for sale on Gunbroker recently. I think around the end of last year.

Dean Romig
10-01-2020, 07:55 PM
I handled one of the prototypes about 10 or 12 years ago at Pintail or someplace where his booth was set up.

He began this project thinking he could use the name Parker without checking if the bame (marque) was owned by anyone.

Surprise, surprise.... Remington Arms owned the name until the auction a few days ago. Remington’s legal department put a quick end to the project.





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John Davis
10-01-2020, 10:16 PM
There was a completed example for sale on Gunbroker recently. I think around the end of last year.

Do you remember the asking price?

todd allen
10-02-2020, 11:08 AM
Do you remember the asking price?
I vaguely remember one being for sale somewhere. Not a big interest for me, cause the only thing I use an O/U for is box birds, and that with the "other" P-Gun.
(Perazzi)
All field shooting is done with a SxS, as the Natural Order of Things Done Properly would prescribe.
Acronym is NOTDP. (Pronounced not deep)

Brian Dudley
10-02-2020, 12:26 PM
Do you remember the asking price?

Too much. I am pretty sure that it did not sell.

It was discussed here on the board at that time I beleive.

Brian Dudley
10-02-2020, 12:31 PM
$30k


http://parkerguns.org/forums/showthread.php?t=27591&highlight=Makers

Brian Dudley
10-02-2020, 12:31 PM
http://parkerguns.org/forums/showthread.php?t=30279&highlight=Makers

todd allen
10-02-2020, 01:39 PM
http://parkerguns.org/forums/showthread.php?t=30279&highlight=Makers
Hmmm. A trigger plate action. Looks like the gun had merit.
Too bad the effort faltered.

John Davis
10-02-2020, 03:41 PM
[QUOTE=Brian Dudley;313269]$30k


That's pretty strong.

Destry L. Hoffard
10-02-2020, 09:15 PM
They were also advertising themselves as Parker restoration specialists too if I'm not mistaken. They even had a Meriden address, thought I think the operation was in Ohio somewhere? The one person I ever heard of that sent them a gun for restoration had a very negative experience, they essentially destroyed the gun.

Jerry VanHorn
10-03-2020, 09:49 AM
The engraver that I got the parts from is in Ohio..He said Lazor left owing him $1000...I still haven't decided what to do with the parts..

Dean Romig
10-03-2020, 11:21 AM
They’re a part of American gunnaking history, though not especially valuable today but might be sometime in the future.





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Bill Murphy
10-03-2020, 05:05 PM
The future? It would be impossible for anyone who shoots a shotgun either recreationally or competitively to accept the busy breech area, filled with screw heads, adjustments, and other appendages that would quickly fill with dirt and powder residue. The ideal breech area is a Beretta SO or 680 series gun that does not allow any junk to accumulate to interrupt the action of the gun. The designers of this gun apparently succumbed to the Rube Goldberg theory of "Many parts is good". There is a way to design an over under gun with few openings in the breech area and that is what buyers of high end guns demand.

Bill Murphy
10-03-2020, 05:18 PM
duplicate post

Dean Romig
10-03-2020, 08:42 PM
My point was ‘the pieces” as part of sporting history rather than something that could be schlepped together to make something that just “shoots”.






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Bill Murphy
10-04-2020, 08:33 AM
I'm sure a few collectors will just have to have one.