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Reggie Bishop
09-19-2020, 04:15 PM
Nicely configured upland transition 20 listed today on GI. You don’t see many transition guns on the market. This one has great dimensions for bird hunting.

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Bob Jurewicz
09-19-2020, 04:22 PM
The seller is really proud of that one!! $19,000??
Bob Jurewicz

Gary Carmichael Sr
09-19-2020, 04:48 PM
Wonder if the bank would let me transition some of my confederate money to greenbacks? although money is being printed so fast these days, my Confederate bills I think are worth more than The greenbacks, crazy world right now! Gary

Dave Noreen
09-19-2020, 05:16 PM
I just looked at the pictures of that gun an hour or so ago. Still mostly Parker Bros. Still has the PARKER BROS. OVERLOAD PROVED markings on the barrel flats --

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I have found the PARKER BROS. OVERLOAD PROVED markings used up into the 2369xx range. Some guns in the 236xxx range I've recorded with no proof markings on the barrel flats. The lowest serial number I've recorded with the PARKER GUN WORKS OVERLOAD PROVED barrel flat markings is 236490. I can't see a Remington barrel date code on the pictures I have of 236490. Serial number 236958 still has the PARKER BROS. OVERLOAD PROVED stamp, but has a Remington barrel date code of AD, A = March, D = 1935. Serial number 237149 with the PARKER GUN WORKS OVERLOAD PROVED carries a barrel date code of KD, K = May, D = 1935.

Likewise it has the Parker Bros. rib markings --

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The frame has neither the PARKER BROS. on the side --

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and no PARKER on the bottom --

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Dean Romig
09-19-2020, 05:21 PM
Definitely has Runge dogs and pheasants though.





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James L. Martin
09-19-2020, 06:08 PM
Book says 30" gun, look at muzzle photo, what do you guys think about the gap between barrels ?

Dean Romig
09-19-2020, 06:50 PM
From where I sit it looks like the exterrior walls of the tubes at the muzzle are touching quite nicely.





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Kerilynn Viccione
09-19-2020, 06:59 PM
I have a 20 gauge with the Overload stamp and serial number 233073. I only mention because you said the earliest you had was the 236xxx range with the overload stamp. I don't know if this is helpful.

Dean Romig
09-19-2020, 07:01 PM
It adds to the knowledge base. Thanks -






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James L. Martin
09-19-2020, 07:34 PM
Dean I agree with you ,the muzzle looks right it's just that the book says 30" & any skeet choked Parker I have seen are marked. Maybe the chokes were opened. Still a nice Parker.

Dave Noreen
09-19-2020, 07:39 PM
I have a 20 gauge with the Overload stamp and serial number 233073. I only mention because you said the earliest you had was the 236xxx range with the overload stamp. I don't know if this is helpful.

But is it PARKER BROS. or PARKER GUN WORKS (the Remington era stamp) between the OVERLOAD and the PROVED?

The earliest gun I've recoded that has the PARKER BROS. OVERLOAD PROVED stamp is in the 1983xx range.

We do find guns with even lower serial numbers that have either of the OVERLOAD PROVED stamps, but that would tend to indicate the gun was rebarreled.

Kerilynn Viccione
09-19-2020, 07:52 PM
Hi there,
It is not Remington and was not rebarreled -here's a pic attached....

kurt varga
09-19-2020, 08:01 PM
Sir,
I have DHE 20 ga ser no 233627 with the over load stamps also.

kurt varga

Dave Noreen
09-19-2020, 08:10 PM
Yes. PARKER BROS. is what would be expected in the OVERLOAD PROVED stamp in that serial number range.

Mike McKinney
09-20-2020, 08:33 AM
Gary, I’m pretty sure they are worth more!

Michael Bartlett
09-20-2020, 09:03 AM
FYI: I own a Parker PH #84503 built in 1896 with 28" twist barrels according to Chuck Bishop's research letter. At some point after 1910, the gun was returned to the factory
for fitting with a new set of 26" Parker Steel barrels. As indicated by Chuck, as you know, "complete factory and return records "do not exist". However, both the 28" Twist and the 26" Parker steel barrels have separate forends stamped #1 and #2 and the barrel forend lugs are stamped #1 and #2. And, both barrels were retrofitted at the factory with James P. Hayes's patented improvement to the bolting system. Further, relative to this discussion, 26" Parker steel barrel flats are marked with the Overload Stamp both above and below the barrel lugs.