What are the odds? Poor #169257...

[Don Kaas]

Their is a gun for sale on GB that immediately intrigued me, a 36" 10 gauge #3frame D3 DH that would make a dandy bookend to my 36" 8 gauge D3 DH...BUT:eek:the muzzle photos looked a bit suspect...check THE BOOK, it seems that this gun started life as the only listed 38" 10 gauge D3 DH...now that was a gun..I guess Ill just hold on to my 36" D2 GH, no upgrade today...gun collecting like baseball is a "game of inches":crying:

[Richard Flanders]

Too bad Don! What an acquisition THAT would have been! I feel your pain...

Found it. That's the S/N. Here's the GB auction # if anyone wants to look at it.

207928209

[charlie cleveland]

still a good find even wih the short 36 inch barrels...i wouldown this gun if my pocket book was bigger..... charlie

[Pete Lester]

What are the chances the Serialization book is wrong about the original barrel length? I to thought the muzzles were suspect but I find it hard to be 100% certain when judging from pictures rather than a gun in the hand. If they have been cut it is a crying shame.

[Dave Suponski]

Ya, If the book is right it's a real shame. But if the price is right it would be one hell-of-a gun. Those muzzles are suspect but we have seen guns leave the factory clipped to fill an order.Trouble is I just don't know....

[Bill Murphy]

You just have to have the gun in hand. However, a factory letter may prove that the order book specifies a 36" gun and maybe the stock book was misread when the serialization book was put together. More pictures, more use of the micrometer, PGCA letter.

[Mark Conrad]

Don, what's the serial #.

[Dave Suponski]

Mark, It's at the top of the thread 169257

[Mark Conrad]

Don, what's the serial #.

The order book has 10/38. The stock book is missing. I have seen cases were the length of barrels does not match the order and the shipping time is a few days after the order. This would indicate to me that they filled the order with a gun in stock. This gun took 6 months to ship so I supect it was 38 inches when it left PB.

Freebee for the holidays.

MC

[Bill Murphy]

Thanks for getting into this, Mark. The fellow doesn't seem to want to deal in PGCA letters. I asked for a scan of the letter on the 14 gauge and that I was very interested. He replied "There is no letter.".

[Dave Suponski]

He states in his text about the above gun that he ordered a letter.Maybe it's not in hand yet.

[Don Kaas]

The vendor believes they were cut.

[Greg Baehman]

If there is the usual unmatted area at the muzzle end of the rib, it makes one wonder why the vendor believes they were cut. :vconfused:

[Dave Suponski]

Jent, What do you mean by "Box"?

[Don Kaas]

Jent, it would be the LENGTH of the chokes that would determine whether they are original but I forgot you are an expert...maybe Parker cut them or rebarrelled them after 1919, maybe someone faked them, maybe the Book is wrong, maybe...they look cut to me but what do I know...I'm not an expert...

[Dean Romig]

I'm at a loss as to what anyone sees that would cause them to say the "muzzles are suspect". From what I can see the upper and lower keels are in place and the barrels are touching and from what Jent says, the top rib has a "box" where the matting has ended. Aside from measuring the length of the chokes which could always tell a different story it looks uncut from where I sit.

[Steve Huffman]

Could you use the barrel weight to help in this case also ? Two inches of barrel have to weigh aliitle bit . I dont know if they included the ribs in that or not. But if someone cut two inches off them I think they would have to relay the ribs to get them that close. But what do I know. If the barrels have been honed would that not change the choke length ?

[Gary Carmichael Sr]

I have a 16ga VH that was sent back to the factory two months after it was bought to have 2" clipped off the barrels and at the same time ordered a set of 32" twist barrels in 20ga for the same gun. The barrels were cut and no "box" just matting to the end of the barrels, a lyman site was also added. Never say never when it comes to Parkers!

[ED J, MORGAN]

The barrels may have been a replacement set?

[Pete Lester]

This 10 Gauge DH Grade with 36 inch barrels has a "BOX" on the top of the rib at the muzzles so unless this feature was faked the barrels are original 36 inch barrels. Mike is going to take this 10 gauge over to Jim Wright and Jim Clark at SIMMONS in the next day or so to have the bore diameter and the choke diameter measured and that will answer a whole lot of questions for everybody. Good Shooting To You All, Jent ----- jentpmitchell@msn.com

Did he get the barrels and chokes measured yet? If so how long were the chokes?