Opinions on this W&C Scott 10 ga

[Milton C Starr]

I looked at this gun a few months back but then it was gone so I figured it was sold but it was relisted today . Its a 10 gauge hammergun with 3.5" chambers and at a hefty 11lbs . The dolls head doesnt look original to the barrels so I am wondering if it was rebarreled and the old dolls head attached to the new set ?

https://www.gunsinternational.com/guns-for-sale-online/shotguns/shotguns-10-gauge/w-c-scott-son-10-ga.cfm?gun_id=101478092

The forend looks horrendous but thats fixable .

[John Campbell]

The barrels and doll's head look original to me. Perhaps refinished. The stock surely has been refinished. It's built on license by Scott on a Purdey patent thumb break action. Quite common.

[Milton C Starr]

The barrels and doll's head look original to me. Perhaps refinished. The stock surely has been refinished. It's built on license by Scott on a Purdey patent thumb break action. Quite common.

Think its the original barrels someone lengthened to 3.5" ? Its on the heavy side for a Scotts 10 gauge , ive seen one other Scott 10 gauge that was 11lbs that was also 3.5" chambers . The proof marks would really tell what is going on with the gun . I know the English had a 3 1/4" chamber 10 gauge so perhaps it was one someone lengthened . I had a C G Bonehill 10 ga hammer gun before that someone had reamed the chambers out to 3.5" .

[charlie cleveland]

I too think someone lengthend the chambers...but that would be ok in my book....charlie

[Milton C Starr]

I too think someone lengthend the chambers...but that would be ok in my book....charlie

Well the muzzles look much thicker than any other W&C Scott 10 gauge I have seen and ive looked at alot of them . Scotts 10 gauges seem to show up more than any other English maker its seems . I have seen 2 that had been rebarreled in England and around this price range which is why I was curious if it was the case with this one . Which is odd in it self considering how much it cost to have a new set of barrels made . I dont see any sleeving marks either if it was re chambered over there it should have proof marks to show it .

I think a 10 ga magnum hammer gun would be pretty sweet if its not a bomb :rotf:

[John Campbell]

Yes. It could have been sleeved. But where? In the US, there's no proof requirement. From the look of the gun, it's had its share of "enhancement." Barrel wall thickness at the chamber's end is the key. Otherwise, it seems OK for the price range. Perhaps a bit high. There's a lot of work to get it half way decent again.

[Milton C Starr]

Yes. It could have been sleeved. But where? In the US, there's no proof requirement. From the look of the gun, it's had its share of "enhancement." Barrel wall thickness at the chamber's end is the key. Otherwise, it seems OK for the price range. Perhaps a bit high. There's a lot of work to get it half way decent again.

I wonder how much it costs to make a new forend ? I see 5k as the normal price to fully restock a sidelock . I wonder if the stock is original though the grip looks elongated compared to others . Theres also a NID 10 mag listed cheaper than ive ever seen one but again its forend has been replaced with what looks like a 2x6 piece of lumber I wondered how much it would cost to have a new one made .

there are better guns right now for the money and I dont think it would be smart to buy a project I intend to use so close to season .

[Eldon Goddard]

I like the Purdey thumb lever. It should have a patent use stamp and number on the action flats. J.P. Followed by a number.

[Milton C Starr]

I like the Purdey thumb lever. It should have a patent use stamp and number on the action flats. J.P. Followed by a number.

Ive never gotten any replies when trying to ask Cabelas about old doubles they list . The stamps and proof marks would be the only way to tell what is going on with the chambers though .

There was a Francotte 10 ga that sold recently with 3.5" chambers that was clearly marked on the barrel flats 2 7/8" :shock: and it was not a heavy 10 ga either .

[Mike Franzen]

It’s a nice looking gun. I noticed they didn’t give the DAC and DAH. Looks pretty severe to me.

[Harold Lee Pickens]

Take a look at Phil Carr's 10 ga German hammer for sale on the forum.
Sweet gun, more expensive, but doesnt need any work either.

[Milton C Starr]

Take a look at Phil Carr's 10 ga German hammer for sale on the forum.
Sweet gun, more expensive, but doesnt need any work either.

I wont be in the market till about September , I agree that is a good deal though . Usually you're not going to get a pretty or good condition 10 gauge hammergun for $2500 . Phil seems to always price his doubles better than what you see fellows on GI or GB asking . Thats one of the perks of being a PGCA member you can get some nice doubles for less than what a dealer normally wants .

Im on the fence about what I want to buy this coming Autumn , I really need to buy a boat if I want to go duck/goose hunting . Or I could save the money and just use my Parker 10 gauge in the dove fields :rotf:

[todd allen]

Nice gun, but lots of drop. I would need to know the dimensions before I could make a decision.

[bruce a lyons]

I think it's been re barreled. A gun that age would have smooth top rib. They look like fluid steel too.

[Milton C Starr]

I think it's been re barreled. A gun that age would have smooth top rib. They look like fluid steel too.

I think that might be the case , If it so it would be a interesting double once the wood is replaced . I have seen 3 damascus barreled 10s where people have had the chambers reamed to 3.5" . Pugs has a Parker lifter with 3.5" chambers which I think was probably reamed out at some point .

I was also looking at a NID 10 ga magnum for $1900 but it needs a forend , ive found stock makers who carry forends for the 12 and 16 gauge NIDs but not the 10 so im not sure what it would cost to remedy that .

[Bill Murphy]

"Wood replaced". How much do you think that will cost? There is no part of this gun that is original. American walnut on a Scott?? The muzzles are 1/10" thick. Scott didn't do that. Where are the proof marks? I don't think they know how to take the gun apart to look at the proof marks.

[Craig Budgeon]

There are so many honest English hammer guns available, why not shop around. One other thing when they proof guns in Europe they are not including the receiver, just the barrels, that receiver is not designed for magnum loads.