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CraigThompson
07-14-2020, 10:02 AM
The Barnes/Armbrust 8 gauge swagging setup . Pretty decent idea for using the old Herter’s dinosaur press .
CraigThompson
07-14-2020, 10:05 AM
All in all a lotta trouble to keep an 8 gauge shooting !!!
Bill Murphy
07-14-2020, 10:31 AM
Most of us don't need so much quantity. Craig, why don't you take on unsized shells to swage? I would send you mine when I need them. What would be a fair price for sizing 50 or 100 plus shipping?
Richard Flanders
07-14-2020, 11:37 AM
I like it! You can lay a cot out next to the bench and lay on your side and reload!!
Mills Morrison
07-14-2020, 12:51 PM
I need to get the swaging setup. That is what I lack.
edgarspencer
07-14-2020, 01:35 PM
Craig, are you pushing the hull down through a sizing die screwed into the 1 1/4x 8 threaded hole in the top of the press?
The swaging tool I have has two dies, to take it down in two steps rather than one. The Shell holder fits into the ram of the RCBS Rock Chucker, and the die threads into the top. On top of the die is the punchout handle.
CraigThompson
07-14-2020, 06:30 PM
I like it! You can lay a cot out next to the bench and lay on your side and reload!!
I don’t need a cot , the office chair I have sleeps very well . When my Boykin was still little she’d lay on my chest in that chair and we’d both take a nap .
CraigThompson
07-14-2020, 06:37 PM
Craig, are you pushing the hull down through a sizing die screwed into the 1 1/4x 8 threaded hole in the top of the press?
The swaging tool I have has two dies, to take it down in two steps rather than one. The Shell holder fits into the ram of the RCBS Rock Chucker, and the die threads into the top. On top of the die is the punchout handle.
The setup I have , the ram pushes the hull up into the die , then there’s another ram inside the die that you push it back out . I seriously doubt I ever swagge more then 500-1000 hulls but it’s nice to know I have the ability should the need arise :cool:
CraigThompson
07-14-2020, 06:40 PM
To be honest the cost of the tooling to keep an 8 going to my satisfaction kept me away from it for several years before I succumbed . I also thought getting the 8 gauge press was going to take longer , but from the day I told him I wanted a press , it was in my hands in about two weeks if my memory serves .
charlie cleveland
07-14-2020, 11:20 PM
my first 8 ga resizer was a pair of conduit pliars...did not make pretty shells but worked for me a few years...my second resizer was one made from a blue print that wayne gave me...a friend to it to a machine shop and gave it to me it works perfect...it makes a factory looking hull in one step on my press which is some kind of a piece of machineary my dad picked up some where... any way I roll crimp my 8 ga loads but gona try to get me a 6 crimp for the 8 ga...charlie
CraigThompson
07-15-2020, 05:46 PM
my first 8 ga resizer was a pair of conduit pliars...did not make pretty shells but worked for me a few years...my second resizer was one made from a blue print that wayne gave me...a friend to it to a machine shop and gave it to me it works perfect...it makes a factory looking hull in one step on my press which is some kind of a piece of machineary my dad picked up some where... any way I roll crimp my 8 ga loads but gona try to get me a 6 crimp for the 8 ga...charlie
I’ve got a drill press and a BPI roll crimper as well as one of their shell vise things . And I obtained a few Remington hulls today so I’ll give roll crimping a try I think .
edgarspencer
07-15-2020, 06:25 PM
I have a BPI 8ga roll crumper as well as a 16 & a 20. All of them have one major flaw, in my estimation. The outside radius isn’t. It’s a sharp 90 degree edge, but the inside radius is nice.
I have a deluxe Bridgeport Products roll crimper in 12 ga and I would love to find that same device in other gauges. It has 4 roll bars as opposed to BPIs one.
charlie cleveland
07-15-2020, 06:50 PM
with a little practice and a little luck about anybody can make fair looking roll crimps......even if they come out ugly they will still shoot ok....charlie
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