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tom tutwiler
07-13-2020, 03:06 PM
Anyone have a source for a keel for a 20 gauge?

Dean Romig
07-13-2020, 03:42 PM
I have a keel around here someplace but I have no idea what gauge it is for.... or even if there is a difference.

I'll look for it.





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tom tutwiler
07-13-2020, 04:20 PM
I have a keel around here someplace but I have no idea what gauge it is for.... or even if there is a difference.

I'll look for it.





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Thanks Dean. I have a little 20 gauge that had the dreaded gap. Barrels ring thankfully. I'd like to have it fixed the right way..

Brian Dudley
07-13-2020, 05:22 PM
I may have a few kicking around.

Or one can just be filed up out of some scrap.

edgarspencer
07-13-2020, 05:40 PM
There really isn’t anything special about them. They were just mild steel bar stock, filed to fit.

Dean Romig
07-13-2020, 05:49 PM
Were the originals filed concave on the three sides, or at least the two sides that contact the tubes?





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tom tutwiler
07-13-2020, 06:29 PM
Appreciate whatever can be dug up.

Brian Dudley
07-13-2020, 09:09 PM
Were the originals filed concave on the three sides, or at least the two sides that contact the tubes?.



No. As edgar said, there really is nothing special about them.
They are just a triangular shaped wedge. They are just a filler that serve no other purpose other than just that.

Brian Dudley
07-15-2020, 11:08 AM
Some keels removed from various Parker barrels.

86067

tom tutwiler
07-15-2020, 11:19 AM
That's interesting. I thought they would be longer and look the same on both ends. They look something that in a larger form would be used to split firewood. Thanks for posting

Dean Romig
07-15-2020, 11:20 AM
The purpose of the keels was to align the ribs in relation to the barrel tubes before soldering. The one I have/had is straight sided and about 1 1/4" long or so.





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Brian Dudley
07-15-2020, 12:33 PM
I am sure they all started out similar size. They would be inserted inbetween the tubes on top and bottom as far as they would go. And cut off after soldering was done. They are there for filler material only. Nothing more. They serve little purpose by way of rib alignment. The tubes touch and the rib sits on top of the two tubes.

Farther back, the tubes are spaced out with flat pieces of shim material, maybe 1” long. Usually there are usually 3 places that these shims are placed. Sometimes it may be one large shim. And other times multiple shims. They end up all being soldered together through the process.

I will see if I can grab a photo of some disassembled barrels showing these spacing shims.

Brian Dudley
07-15-2020, 01:18 PM
Some photos of the spacer shims on the inside of Parker barrels.

86078

86079

86080

edgarspencer
07-15-2020, 01:50 PM
Keels offered no structural integrity. They were there to take up space, because solder (Sn and Pb) is much heavier than steel, and if they just filled the whole gap between barrels and ribs with solder, the barrels would be too heavy at the muzzle.

tom tutwiler
07-15-2020, 09:01 PM
Keels offered no structural integrity. They were there to take up space, because solder (Sn and Pb) is much heavier than steel, and if they just filled the whole gap between barrels and ribs with solder, the barrels would be too heavy at the muzzle.


Wonder if one could just get a cut nail and then file off one side and shorten and bingo, you have a shim.