Have you seen this tragedy on the DGJ forum?

[Dean Romig]

Left sitting in a water soaked case. How very unfortunate that this exceedingly rare 28 gauge Parker AHE Skeet gun will never be the gun it was not so long ago.


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[Rick Losey]

:crying::crying::crying:

[todd allen]

Boat tipped over? I can't think of any reasonable explanation for something like this.

[Randy G Roberts]

Oh My. I cannot imagine how that could be allowed to happen. Dean is that the same forum as the doublegunshop.com forum or is this something different ?

[Brian Dudley]

It is the facebook group.

I thought only 12g guns were “boat anchors”???

[Jeff Peck]

That's about a 40K boat anchor now.


Wow.

Being naive in restoring, is that "fixable" ?

[Rick Losey]

Being naive in restoring, is that "fixable" ?

with enough time and enough money - almost anything is restorable

from what the picture show - assuming no serious pitting (still "restorable" with sleeving? ) the barrels are probably surface rust

the action would have to be heavily cleaned and the engraving all redone

the wood- assuming it was not wet long enough to rot is a refinish- other wise a restock


an old guy who did wood and canvas canoes told me he could "restore" a canoe from one rib if the client wanted to spend the mony

[Brian Dudley]

That's about a 40K boat anchor now.


Wow.

Being naive in restoring, is that "fixable" ?



Sure. Anything is fixible. Hard to say based on that photo how bad things really are. The barrels would be the biggest concern. And if the rust hasnt been able to take deep hold, then it would not be fatal.
I have seen much worse looking brought back. One example was an A-1 special that was in the trunk of a 1930s car, on the bottom of a lake, since that time.

The Parker would sure be worth while. The 21 less so, in my opinion.

[Dean Romig]

That's about a 40K boat anchor now.


Wow.

Being naive in restoring, is that "fixable" ?



IMO, before the flood it’s value may have been considerably higher.

As I understand it, a pipe had burst or leaked and nobody thought to check on these guns in time.

I also understand that the barrels are beyond salvage.



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[Mills Morrison]

I saw. Very sad

[Bill Murphy]

This makes my two AHE 28 gauge vent rib guns worth that much more. Send the 2 to me and I will try to make all three look the same. I would shoot the Model 21 as is and try to hunt the rust away.

[Bill Murphy]

I have no idea how to access that forum. I assume facebook is involved somehow. Help.

[Dave Moore]

I have had that happen. Jug of water For the dog leaked onto canvas cases, I did not realize what had happened and I was too lazy to unload when I got home. By the time I went to unload the guns looked just like that.

[Jay Gardner]

Wish I could unsee that.

[Bill Murphy]

I'm a "project" kind of guy and I will get the grandkids together to sand it down, the Parker that is. The 21 is going into a vat of some kind of rust remover.

[Shane Jennings]

I've always been conscious of storing guns under a bed or on the floor anywhere. I was an insurance adjuster back in the 90s. Plumbing leaks happen every day.

[Shane Jennings]

I have no idea how to access that forum. I assume facebook is involved somehow. Help.

https://www.facebook.com/groups/201361947455842/

[Dave Tercek]

I know a guy who had a nice Winchester commemorative collection. The rifles were displayed on basement wall, nicely constructed with fancy trim and sliding glass doors.
The kitchen sink was directly above it, the P trap broke. At least a week went but with sink water drizzling over them. Ouch.

[Dean Romig]

Does anyone remember the Fox HE 32” that sokd on GunsAmerica two years ago?

It looked worse than these two guns.... the rust was removed and the frame had about 98% case color and the barrel blue only needed to be touched up in a couple places.

It had been stored on a shelf in a damp cellar in Swampscott, MA within 1/8 mile from the ocean for more than 40 years.






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[Rick Losey]

Does anyone remember the Fox HE 32” that sokd on GunsAmerica two years ago?

It looked worse than these two guns.... the rust was removed and the frame had about 98% case color and the barrel blue only needed to be touched up in a couple places.

It had been stored on a shelf in a damp cellar in Swampscott, MA within 1/8 mile from the ocean for more than 40 years.

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remember it well, I had to drop out right after i bid insane but then someone bid certifiable

the next owner posted pics of it on the Fox board after he re-did it-

[Mills Morrison]

I remember that Super Fox too. Then the successful bidder came on these forums and the last laugh was on him.

[Dean Romig]

I remember that Super Fox too. Then the successful bidder came on these forums and the last laugh was on him.

Hmm... I don’t remember that happening. It was a fantastic gun that had seen little use and cleaned up with not a great lot of work.





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[Mills Morrison]

Maybe it was on the Fox forum, but everyone was talking about how much money was paid for a gun with so much rust on it. Then, the buyer came on with pictures of the cleaned up Super and it was amazing. Good job to him.

[Brian Dudley]

It cleaned up well, but he still paid a lot of money. Too much really.

[Dean Romig]

It was a beautiful HE with very little wear and nearly all of its case color and no damage to the wood that I could see. I went to the little gun shop in southern NH to see it and talk with the owner of the shop. He had told his client that he would try to get $350 for it on Gunbroker if he could. I told him to expect it to get closer to $10k and he didn't believe me. He admitted that he didn't know much at all about classic American doubles.

I examined it very closely and pretty much knew that it was mostly just surface rust and would likely come off pretty easily.





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[edgarspencer]

I'm basing my opinion on the color of the rust, and I suspect it will clean off without any pitting. On the flip side, I think there's little chance any case hardening colors will survive. The barrel finish will also be compromised, but the normal barrel prep work for cold rust bluing will be enough. Can't speculate on the wood.

[Rick Losey]

It cleaned up well, but he still paid a lot of money. Too much really.

i thought so, That's why I quit bidding, but I wasn't far behind him

Dean, if you remember you and I were on the phone when I dropped out a couple bids before it ended and I was debating one more try (as my wife patiently wait to head out to concert we had tickets for :) )

at the time, probably only because I was trying to buy one :rolleyes: Super Fox prices were sky high for a while

that gun was one of only 20 made in that configuration.

seller's pic and a screen capture

[Dean Romig]

Yes, I remember Rick.

I took a bunch of pictures when I examined it... I'll need to find them.

How was the concert?... better than winning an auction on an HE ??





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[Rick Losey]

Yes, I remember Rick.

I took a bunch of pictures when I examined it... I'll need to find them.

How was the concert?... better than winning an auction on an HE ??
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well

we got a CD of the concert - i don't know where that is now

If I had won the auction for the HE - I WOULD know where that was :cheers:

[Mills Morrison]

At least the cd cost less.

[Bill Murphy]

$9575 for an HE that needs cleaning up? I hope Nash Buckingham once owned that gun. I remember the gun but I don't remember the $9575.

[Dean Romig]

But if a “waterfowl with classic American SXS’s” type of guy REALLY wanted it... and a couple of other guys really thought they wanted it.... no predicting the outcome.





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