View Full Version : Long Tall LeFever!
Mark Ray
06-27-2020, 08:19 PM
Will post pics upon arrival! Just made a deal on a 1913 era G grade (scroll engraved) 12 bore with 32” heavy fullxfull barrels, and original straight stock. Have a thing for Straight stock lower grade american guns...decent dimensions,
Garry L Gordon
06-27-2020, 08:20 PM
I like the straight stocks, too. Can't wait to see your gun.
Dean Romig
06-27-2020, 08:22 PM
What a TEASE!!
How long will we need to wait?
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Mark Ray
06-27-2020, 09:01 PM
I promise i am as anxious as you are Dean. I have ever seen precious few mid grade LeFever straight stocked guns, this gun will be kennel mates with my Elsie Ideal grade ejector with original straight grip and my Ithaca flues grade 3 , 12 bore, built on a 10 gauge frame With beautiful original straight grip. Will post pics asap.
Dean Romig
06-27-2020, 09:10 PM
WOW! Line 'em up Mark and show us all of them.
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Mark Ray
06-28-2020, 02:44 AM
I definitely will, one the new gun is in hand.
keavin nelson
06-28-2020, 10:37 AM
I promise i am as anxious as you are Dean. I have ever seen precious few mid grade LeFever straight stocked guns, this gun will be kennel mates with my Elsie Ideal grade ejector with original straight grip and my Ithaca flues grade 3 , 12 bore, built on a 10 gauge frame With beautiful original straight grip. Will post pics asap.
Wait, where's the Parker???:whistle:
Mark Ray
06-28-2020, 11:58 AM
Oh yeah,
Well so far only have two
$125 grade short 10, under 8lbs with 28” 5 croille barrels, and a very well used early VH 20.
davidboyles
06-28-2020, 12:25 PM
Mark thanks for kind remarks about me I missed our annual turkey hunt and I can assure you my grandson Courtland did too. Look forward to seeing the Lefever you got. I have tried to find a nice 16 Lefever but no luck yet. If I sell the Remington CE I will have some coins to find a nice Lefever. I was hoping a duck hunter or turkey hunter would snap up the Remington you have not seen it but it is about as nice of one as you could find. Just trimming my 12's I did sell the 2bbl 10 ga Grade 3 Hammergun you saw on our last turkey hunt together. Hope you get to fish some. This Covid has really cut down on my trips to fish.
Mark Ray
06-28-2020, 01:19 PM
Fishing some David!
Frank Cronin
07-01-2020, 09:20 AM
What a TEASE!!
How long will we need to wait?
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sigh......
We're all still waiting for some nice pictures of this Lefever..... :bigbye:
Mark Ray
07-01-2020, 09:38 AM
It’s due to hit my FFL tomorrow afternoon. However, I’m headed to my fishing cabin today, so won’t have in hand til Monday.
Let me see if I can put up a couple of the sellers pics.
Mark Ray
07-01-2020, 10:17 AM
Not the greatest pics, but ive looked at them a few times a day in anticipation. Good pics on monday i hope!
Mark Ray
07-01-2020, 11:17 AM
Couple more
Mark Ray
07-01-2020, 11:23 AM
Anxious to get this in my hands. The seller reports that his Galazan drop in choke gauge stops at about 16 bore modified. This sucker must be “tighter than Dick’s hatband!”
Gerald McPherson
07-01-2020, 12:53 PM
16 bore maybe?
Mark Ray
07-01-2020, 01:03 PM
Doubt it, Seller is an experienced collector, and claims he has shot this gun a fair it. He is the one that told me about the drop in gauge. Will n
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Know for myself monday!
Frank Srebro
07-02-2020, 08:59 AM
Mark, she looks like a good find. Love those straight grippers but really any good honest Lefever is a cool gun and a step back in time. Syracuse Lefever 12-gauge guns have a wide range of bore diameters; hence a drop in choke gauge can read “off”. Using a good bore mike, the tightest 12 ga choke constriction in my spreadsheet is 39 points. JFI, the 16-gauge modified choke step on a Galazan brass choke gauge that’s handy here mikes about .648" diameter. Just sayin …..
davidboyles
07-02-2020, 02:40 PM
Do I see turkey sights on this weapon. If so what will be your shell of choice? You fishing with the Red narrow spoon direct drive Abu I gave you? If so pour ice on your thumb!! Good Luck.
Nick de Guerre
07-03-2020, 09:33 AM
The Galazan drop in gauge is indeed handy...although I have not to date seen a 12 choked that tightly.
The good news is the gun appears correct, as there are quite a few straight stocked Lefever's around that were restocked to guns originally furnished with pistol grips. The trigger guard is the dead giveaway in such instances, as the straight variety should extend way down the underside of the stock...as yours does. On pistol grip guns the guard metal terminates under the lip of the grip cap on early guns, and in front of the cap on later guns.
This is a nice find, with the less common thick butt plate. Congrats.
NDG
Ken Snyder
07-04-2020, 10:02 AM
The Galazan drop in gauge is indeed handy...although I have not to date seen a 12 choked that tightly.
The good news is the gun appears correct, as there are quite a few straight stocked Lefever's around that were restocked to guns originally furnished with pistol grips. The trigger guard is the dead giveaway in such instances, as the straight variety should extend way down the underside of the stock...as yours does. On pistol grip guns the guard metal terminates under the lip of the grip cap on early guns, and in front of the cap on later guns.
This is a nice find, with the less common thick butt plate. Congrats.
NDG
NDG is exactly correct regarding the tang and identifying restocks. We also see some fewer LAC factory stocked examples of tangs that appear to have started out as the shorter rounded lower profile PG tangs and had additional steel grafted to create an extension for SG, as is evident on #48944. Run short and improvise to fill an order. Not always readily apparent when a gun is higher condition - but when finishes wear... Enlarge the photo you will see the faint curved line of the original lower tang to the left of the SN# and a circular pin weld locking the scarf joint to the left of that.
Ken
Mark Ray
07-05-2020, 10:56 PM
Picking the gun up tomorrow, stay tuned!!
This is how I spent the fourth at my fishing cabin in the Laguna Madre!!
Dean Romig
07-06-2020, 06:20 AM
Yours is a tough life Mark... :rotf:
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Garry L Gordon
07-06-2020, 06:56 AM
Sweet!
Mark Ray
07-06-2020, 04:54 PM
Got the gun, definitely better than the sellers pics. My pics are not great either.
My Galazan drop in will not allow the 12 gauge section to enter the barrels at all, close, but still too tight to even wedge it into either, the left tube is ever so slightly tighter than the right. The bores are a little better than decent, and ring perfectly, all 32” of them. There is evidence of a dent removal about 6” from the bore. Gun weighs a hefty 9lbs6oz, and chambers are 2 7/8”
Very happy...super honest gun that has not been screwed with!
Nick de Guerre
07-06-2020, 04:58 PM
Nice gun! Looks all original.
Great find! And with it choked that tight it's a turkey slayer for sure. I once owned a steel barreled G similarly proportioned, but with pistol grip. I had sent it to Buck Hamlin for trigger work in the month of March, JUST before MO turkey season.
I never saw the gun again. Buck is a willful man. *s*
NDG
Rich Anderson
07-06-2020, 05:26 PM
Gotta love any gauge with a straight grip especially a 16. Have a nice LeFever straight grip 16 myself. Congrats on a nice gun.
Frank Cronin
07-06-2020, 10:10 PM
Congrats on the Lefever! 9 1/2 lbs! Wow. Love the straight grip. i saw this gun too online but I already spent my gun budget on a nice little Lefever 20 gauge with 30" barrels. :cool:
Mike Koneski
07-08-2020, 04:14 PM
Nice find! Lefever made a great gun. I love all of Uncle Dan's iterations and quirks. If he wanted something different he just did it. The "Full Compensating Action" was brilliant.
Mike Franzen
07-09-2020, 02:12 AM
I never saw the gun again. Buck is a willful man. *s*
NDG
What does that mean?
Nick de Guerre
07-09-2020, 07:03 AM
Buck is a gunsmith well known to many here. In the context of this conversation, he made me 'an offer I couldn't refuse,' because he liked the dimensions so much, and it happened to be right near the start of spring turkey season. He loves to turkey hunt with Lefever or LC Smith doubles.
NDG
charlie cleveland
07-09-2020, 12:02 PM
buck maybe like me in some ways....I too hunt with lc smith lefever parker and stevens...if you get bored of hunting you can set and look at your gun and admire it...I m sure others do this too.......charlie
Mark Ray
07-09-2020, 12:53 PM
buck maybe like me in some ways....I too hunt with lc smith lefever parker and stevens...if you get bored of hunting you can set and look at your gun and admire it...I m sure others do this too.......charlie
I do too!
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