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Stephen Hodges
06-26-2020, 02:47 PM
As a follow up to Edgars Primer question, I have a trivia question regarding the naming of shotgun gauges. We all know what the bore diameters are for 10, 12, 16 and 20 gauge guns. But just how did each gauge mentioned get assigned the designation of 10, 12, 16 and 20 gauges?

Rick Losey
06-26-2020, 03:40 PM
As a follow up to Edgars Primer question, I have a trivia question regarding the naming of shotgun gauges. We all know what the bore diameters are for 10, 12, 16 and 20 gauge guns. But just how did each gauge mentioned get assigned the designation of 10, 12, 16 and 20 gauges?


balls of that diameter per pound of lead


did you know that in the 18th century Pennsylvania longrifles were not defined by caliber as we do now,

they also were identified as balls to a pound - to someone going off on a long hunt who was packing in lead it mattered how many shots he got for each pound he lugged into the wilderness - and since the bores were cut by hand - they varied a lot

militia units were issued bars of lead to "run" their own balls due to the lack of a standard

Stephen Hodges
06-26-2020, 04:28 PM
balls of that diameter per pound of lead


did you know that in the 18th century Pennsylvania longrifles were not defined by caliber as we do now,

they also were identified as balls to a pound - to someone going off on a long hunt who was packing in lead it mattered how many shots he got for each pound he lugged into the wilderness - and since the bores were cut by hand - they varied a lot

militia units were issued bars of lead to "run" their own balls due to the lack of a standard

Very interesting, Thanks. You never know when this stuff will come up in cocktail conversation:)

Dean Romig
06-26-2020, 05:35 PM
I’ll be sure to bring ip these topics at our next social event. I’m sure everyone in attendance will be politely interested...





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Rick Losey
06-26-2020, 05:52 PM
I’ll be sure to bring ip these topics at our next social event. I’m sure everyone in attendance will be politely interested...
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oh - get them going on high brass vs low brass

that's always a popular topic at high tea

almost as popular as dram equivalent

:rolleyes::rolleyes::rolleyes:

charlie cleveland
06-26-2020, 08:19 PM
looks like you fellows will start a new trend in social circles....should get some raised eye brows from the lady folks....be prepared...charlie

Mike Koneski
06-27-2020, 10:32 AM
Don't stop there Dean, expound on how much better 1 oz through a 12g is much better than 1 1/8 oz. "But I need those extra pellets....!!" :corn:

Daryl Corona
06-27-2020, 10:46 AM
Don't forget 7 1/2's vs. 8's...:banghead::banghead:

Sorry Steve. Not to hijact but I coul'd'nt resist.

Mike Koneski
06-27-2020, 11:23 AM
How about the age old #10 or #12 shot for spreaders? :rotf::rotf:

Garry L Gordon
06-27-2020, 12:37 PM
How 'bout: "chokes -- keep the originals or open them up?" Wait. That might generate a discussion that won't end well. Better stick with politics as a discussion topic.:bigbye:

Mike Koneski
06-27-2020, 03:04 PM
How 'bout: "chokes -- keep the originals or open them up?" Wait. That might generate a discussion that won't end well. Better stick with politics as a discussion topic.:bigbye:

BWAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA!!!! Why stop there, throw in chamber lengthening too and sit back and watch!! :shock: :whistle:

Brett Hoop
06-27-2020, 08:48 PM
I like to lead with the swamp of 0 frame 28 ga barrels vs that of the 00 frame 28 ga. and resulting effect of the woodcock migration.

Dean Romig
06-27-2020, 09:07 PM
Yup, good topic Brett - woodcock are often found at the edges of swamps, in the alders and swamp maples. But the fine differences in the swamping of the 0-frame vs the 00-frame should stir a lively conversation.





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Mike Koneski
06-27-2020, 09:19 PM
Brett and Dean, are you seeing swampy leads at the bird or barrel? Is the lead the same when the barometric pressure is rising/falling?

Dean Romig
06-27-2020, 10:06 PM
I always aim a tad high on a falling barometer but the swamp of the 0-frame barrels, unless longer than 28” tends to negate my intended POI.





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Brett Hoop
06-28-2020, 12:15 AM
In the 0 frame vs 00 frame debates, I have seen first hand the advantage quickly shift to the fellow that has a Setter so attuned that it would intentionally tip over it’s masters adult beverage when it sensed time to refocus was required.

Dean Romig
06-28-2020, 06:35 AM
In the 0 frame vs 00 frame debates, I have seen first hand the advantage quickly shift to the fellow that has a Setter so attuned that it would intentionally tip over it’s masters adult beverage when it sensed time to refocus was required.


:rotf::biglaugh:

I have no words...:whistle:



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edgarspencer
06-28-2020, 04:35 PM
I have no words...:whistle:

Hmm,.................For a guy pushing 25,000 posts, I'm having trouble believing that.

Garry L Gordon
06-28-2020, 05:09 PM
Hmm,.................For a guy pushing 25,000 posts, I'm having trouble believing that.

Some day I’ll meet you two guys, together. It will be worth the price of admission.

Daniel Carter
06-28-2020, 05:28 PM
Garry, I have and it is. What i would like is to add George to the mix.

Garry L Gordon
06-28-2020, 06:02 PM
Garry, I have and it is. What i would like is to add George to the mix.

Daniel, I don’t know who George is, but bring him slung and I’ll pay double!

Daniel Carter
06-28-2020, 06:19 PM
The exchanges between Edgar and George Purtill in years gone by were classic.

edgarspencer
06-28-2020, 06:55 PM
Some day I’ll meet you two guys, together. It will be worth the price of admission.

Your best bet would be at a funeral. One of us will be in the box and the other just making sure he’s dead.

Dean Romig
06-28-2020, 08:03 PM
Garry, I have and it is. What i would like is to add George to the mix.


Someday soon at Addieville... I hope. We've had some awful good times shooting together. George shoots best when he gives a heavy shrug, lets out a very audible sigh and barks out the most abbreviated "PULL" I think I've ever heard....... :duck:





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Dean Romig
06-28-2020, 08:07 PM
Your best bet would be at a funeral. One of us will be in the box and the other just making sure he’s dead.

I'd like to be the one to put ha'pennys on your eyes to keep them from poppin' open in the middle of the services. ;)





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