First Parker help

[Shane Jennings]

I picked up my first Parker today after it was delivered to my local FFL. We took the barrels off to verify the serial number, but now I can't get the forend to go back on the gun. I found the "Forend Problem" page in the FAQ section here: http://parkerguns.org/pages/faq/ForendProblem.htm. This isn't my issue though.

The rod that protrudes from the front of the receiver is stuck and won't allow the forend to fully seat into place. What's the trick or the fix for that?

[Dean Romig]

You should be able to depress that spring loaded rod by pushing it against a solid surface.
If it is absolutely impossible to depress it the gun likely needs a good cleaning because old hardened grease and crud can be a problem.

Do NOT use the forend to force it - you might break the forend in half.... use a stationary solid object to push the rod against.

Brian Dudley may have some suggestions.





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[Milton C Starr]

I picked up my first Parker today after it was delivered to my local FFL. We took the barrels off to verify the serial number, but now I can't get the forend to go back on the gun. I found the "Forend Problem" page in the FAQ section here: http://parkerguns.org/pages/faq/ForendProblem.htm. This isn't my issue though.

The rod that protrudes from the front of the receiver is stuck and won't allow the forend to fully seat into place. What's the trick or the fix for that?

The forend on my Parker when I got it that rod that sticks out was extremely tight also . When I put the forend back on instead of snapping it back on which was a no go for me . I put the metal part of the forend that sits on that rod and pushed downards from the tip of the forend and it snapped into place .

[Shane Jennings]

Yes, I've been able to get it to depress some, but then it will just stick firmly the next time I try it. Must need a good cleaning.

[Shane Jennings]

This set of instructions for disassembly doesn't appear to give me access to the spring-loaded pin in the front of the receiver.

http://parkerguns.org/pages/faq/FAQsupportPictures/Disassemble/DisassemblyWithPhoto.htm

Anyone have tips on accessing that for cleaning. I'm always hesitant to start removing screws when there's a spring about to be released, without knowing what to hold onto to keep tiny parts from flying around the room. :D

[Dean Romig]

The trigger guard, stock and floor plate need to come off for investigation and cleaning. I would suggest you contact Brian Dudley on this forum to make arrangements to send it to him for the necessary work. He is quite reasonable in hisbpricing.





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[Brian Dudley]

If the forend was on the gun before you took it apart, there is little reason why it would not re-install after putting the barrels back on.

The unhooking pin should be very firm to depress by hand. But with the weight of the forend against it, there is usually no trouble.


And if the barrel came off, then there is likely no issue with the unhooking system in the gun.

[Shane Jennings]

This piece is what the pin pushes back. It's stuck. Won't slide back and forth. Soaking with solvent now in hopes of freeing it up. Should it slide all the way out the front to clean?

[Shane Jennings]

If the solvent won't free it up, I'm thinking about a wooden jig with a couple of brass pins through the pair of trigger plate screw holes to hold the trigger plate firmly. And then a piece of wood or brass to tap on the cocking slide to get it loose and removed for cleaning. Looks like it should slide all the way out the front. Correct?

[Brian Dudley]

That slide is retained by a small screw in the side of the trigger plate. It will slide out after that screw is removed.

That slide is under very firm spring pressure.

Again, if that slide was stuck, the forend would have never been on the gun to begin with when you bought it.

[Shane Jennings]

Thanks. The gun was put together when the gun dealer handed it to me. I don't know if it was shipped put together or not, as they unpacked it in the back room. We took the barrels off the gun, and then it wouldn't go back together due to the pin not being able to push the slide. I'll remove the screw on the trigger plate and see if I can get the slide out to figure out why it won't move.

[Milton C Starr]

Thanks. The gun was put together when the gun dealer handed it to me. I don't know if it was shipped put together or not, as they unpacked it in the back room. We took the barrels off the gun, and then it wouldn't go back together due to the pin not being able to push the slide. I'll remove the screw on the trigger plate and see if I can get the slide out to figure out why it won't move.

If you cant get it working Kirk Merrington is within driving distance of you , about 3hrs south just a idea .

[Shane Jennings]

The solvent did the trick. It was very gritty before. The pin would push the slide a couple of times, but it felt gritty. Then it would just seize up and not push/slide at all. Working fine now after cleaning and oiling.

Looking at what appears to be the tiny set screw for the cocking slide, I don't have a tool that would fit it to loosen it anyway. Only slotted halfway across. Almost looks like it's been welded on.

[Dean Romig]

I can’t imagine why but some fool peened around that screw and marred the side of the trigger plate...:shock:






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[Brian Dudley]

Some idiot staked it in place with a punch. They must have thought it needed to be set and regular thread locker would not work. Or maybe the screw is stripped?
This was completely futile since the screw CANNOT back out because the frame stops is from loosening when the plate is installed!
Sometimes you just want to shake people...

Anyway, if someone ever wanted to get the screw and the slide out, it will be a complete bear. The screw will have to be drilled out and the hole re-tapped.


That slide sticks out a bit farther than the frame than it should be by the way. It should be flush with the trigger plate dolls head so that it does not get in the way of seating the plate.

[Mike Franzen]

Welcome to the Parker world Shane and the PGCA. You never know what you’re going to find with these great old guns. Looks like you have some skills to fix things. Beautiful gun you got there. How about done more pics.

[Dean Romig]

I wonder why the side of that plate was line knurled as well as around the screw...?




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[Steve Huffman]

Im just wondering if the problem hes having is going to happen again as Brian said its forward to much and it may sometime hang up on whatever is or isn't on the other side of that screw .

[Brian Dudley]

I wonder why the side of that plate was line knurled as well as around the screw...?




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Around the screw looks just like file marks. But the side of the plate in the back certainly is a curiosity. This thing looks to have had some levels of butchery done. It looks to be an attractive gun overall though.

[Richard Flanders]

Wow. What an unfortunate hack job repair. And the file marks?? Jeezo peet. That staked screw could be a difficult thing to fix properly. I see some micro welding in this guns future if it's to be made "right".

[Steve Huffman]

Looks like whoever put it in a vise to hold it while they abused it wonder if the opposite side is the same ? Thank God they didn't put it in the skinny way

[Brian Dudley]

Looks like whoever put it in a vise to hold it while they abused it wonder if the opposite side is the same ? Thank God they didn't put it in the skinny way

I think you got it... vise jaws. I did not think of that.

And clamped down by a gorilla.

[Shane Jennings]

Hopefully cleaning and oiling it is all it needed. I can't see anything around the cocking slide that looks screwed up, other than the obvious things in the photos. It's sliding just fine now. I hope I don't need to remove the slide to clean further and/or make any more extensive repairs. Will cross that bridge if/when I have to, I guess.

Hoping to just shoot and enjoy the gun now. This is the raffle gun that was for sale here. Maybe I can go ahead and cut the butt flat to put a modern kickpad on it now??

Just kidding! :D

[Steve Huffman]

This is the Raffle gun that went on and on ?

[Shane Jennings]

Yes

[Chuck Bishop]

Hopefully cleaning and oiling it is all it needed. I can't see anything around the cocking slide that looks screwed up, other than the obvious things in the photos. It's sliding just fine now. I hope I don't need to remove the slide to clean further and/or make any more extensive repairs. Will cross that bridge if/when I have to, I guess.

Hoping to just shoot and enjoy the gun now. This is the raffle gun that was for sale here. Maybe I can go ahead and cut the butt flat to put a modern kickpad on it now??

Just kidding! :D

I wouldn't cut the stock. You can mount a pad (I used a KickEzz) and cut a plug out of the center of the pad, drill a hole through the hard plastic spacer, and use a screw to draw the center of the pad to the wood. You can also heat up the pad to make it flexable before mounting. I can't remember if it was Brownell or Midway that sold the plug cutter. Or, put on a slip on pad.

[Shane Jennings]

I wouldn't cut the stock. You can mount a pad (I used a KickEzz) and cut a plug out of the center of the pad, drill a hole through the hard plastic spacer, and use a screw to draw the center of the pad to the wood. You can also heat up the pad to make it flexable before mounting. I can't remember if it was Brownell or Midway that sold the plug cutter. Or, put on a slip on pad.

Yes sir. I know. That was just a joke, carried over from the long Raffle Gun thread.

[Brian Dudley]

Everyone was carrying on and on about altering an original gun. I knew all along that the gun was not completely original. Personally I felt like if the owner wanted to alter it, then he should do it.

[Patrick Lien]

please show us a picture of the forend iron after removed from the gun.

PML

[todd allen]

This is really quite a shock to me. Chuck owned that gun for about 2 1/2 years, and in that time may have shot it only a 3 or 4 times. Never went near it with a screwdriver.
Chuck has traded guns around with several members here, always with no issues.
Hopefully this gun works out well for Shane. It is a beauty!

[Shane Jennings]

This is really quite a shock to me. Chuck owned that gun for about 2 1/2 years, and in that time may have shot it only a 3 or 4 times. Never went near it with a screwdriver.
Chuck has traded guns around with several members here, always with no issues.
Hopefully this gun works out well for Shane. It is a beauty!

I'm not at all upset with Chuck, Todd. None of this was evident until I took it apart. I'm pretty sure it was stuck because it's been sitting for a long time without being used while he had it for sale. I really don't think it will be an issue affecting the gun's function, as long as I keep it clean and lubricated. If it does end up needing some repair later, that's something that comes with the territory with older guns. I'm actually enjoying learning stuff about how Parkers function. I like tearing things apart and figuring out how they work. I'm not upset at all, so don't worry about it. :)

[Shane Jennings]

please show us a picture of the forend iron after removed from the gun.

PML

Here you go.

[todd allen]

Everyone was carrying on and on about altering an original gun. I knew all along that the gun was not completely original. Personally I felt like if the owner wanted to alter it, then he should do it.

Please tell me what you "knew" about this gun all along. I'm all ears.

[Brian Dudley]

Nothing serious and by no means negative.
The checkered cheeks for one are not original. So that was the first clue that someone had already altered it for one reason or another. Maybe covering a repair, maybe just an attempt to dress the gun up.
Again, not a big deal inherently, the gun is just not “unaltered and original”.