Project

[Dave Noreen]

So, who is going to take on this 20-gauge B-Grade "project"????

https://www.gunsinternational.com/guns-for-sale-online/shotguns/parker-shotguns/parker-b-grade-20ga-30-quot-project-made-1884.cfm?gun_id=101463059

[Rick Losey]

not the best sleeving job I have seen

[Brian Dudley]

What a mess

[Randy G Roberts]

Seen that one already. Not me.

[Ken Hill]

Does the engraving even look correct?

Ken

[Dean Romig]

Way way way too far gone for me... or my wallet.

That must have been quite the gun in its youth.
Looking at the floor plate I would say the engraving, for the most part, is original.

Noooo... I just looked more closely - that engraving can’t have been approved by Charles A. King - it would never have passed his muster.



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[Harold Lee Pickens]

I have a big bonfire going in the back yard right now. I would throw that wood right on top of it. I am sure whoever did the barrels would not want there name published. Still a B grade 20 ga with 30 " barrels--what does the book say about it? Curious to know.

[Harold Lee Pickens]

The more I look at that gun, the worse it looks

[Chuck Bishop]

Prototype hammerless? 10 years or so before hammerless Parkers came to market. It's one of a kind:shock:

[Harold Lee Pickens]

Chuck, I was just thinking the same thing--by the serial # would have been a hammer gun.
A true Frankengun

[charlie cleveland]

what a shame I just don't see how a gun gets in this kind of shape...the old 8 ga mills let me have was even worse than this gun by far...somebody could fix her but who s got deep enough pockets....charlie

[Craig Budgeon]

I'm just curious to know how many people participated in destroying that gun.

[Keith Doty]

Bad wood, bad engraving, bad screws, bad sleeve job, and no telling what else. So, what's not to like? Passed thru the hands of savages, deserves burial at sea!

[Alfred Greeson]

No one mentioned "boat anchor"

[Rick Losey]

No one mentioned "boat anchor"


its a 20 - not even heavy enough to hold a canoe :rotf:

[keavin nelson]

I'll pass, nothing about it matches the book! And the engraving.......?????

[Bill Murphy]

I wish Mr. Murphy would show us the water table so we could know the true serial number. This gun has little chance of being an original 20 gauge.

[Tom Hawkins]

Around here that is called a post driver.

[Dean Romig]

Or simply a post.





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[Bill Murphy]

OK, so it has a single rib around the breech balls and none of the engraving matches a Parker with single rib breech balls. That means the ribs were fabricated on a lower grade gun and the gun then poorly engraved, OR a high grade gun with single rib has had all of its engraving removed and then reengraved. It would be so easy to answer these questions if Mr. Murphy would post pictures of the barrel flats and water table. Whoa, it has been sold and is off the net. Funny, there wasn't a part of that gun worth five dollars to a restorer. Was this the most thoroughly destroyed Parker we have ever seen, or am I missing something?

[Dean Romig]

Looks like it has been sold.... or he took the ad down because it was trashed so badly here....





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[Keith Doty]

If sold, hope it's decorating some restroom wall somewhere. Lock-up looked pretty suspicious, not exactly on-face, hope nobody is brave/foolish enough to try to shoot it.

[Brian Dudley]

This gun was originally on gunbroker. I saw it last week. I knew it looked familiar in the GI listing that started this thread. I went back and checked and here is the gunbroker listing which has a lot more photos.

https://www.gunbroker.com/item/869878826

The serial number he has listed is a 40,000 number and the forend is stamped with that (restamped that is). The water table stamping appears to be wiped out completely and the serial on the barrels is not visible. So who knows what the actual serial number was on this gun. There are a few areas of the engraving (the breech balls, and the trigger guard) that look like they could be original parker factory engraving for a high grade gun. That combined with the beaded Fences suggests that maybe the gun was originally a B grade or maybe A grade. But without knowing the original serial number of this mess, there is no way to confirm.

It also looks like the gun was at one time fitted with period aftermarket ejectors of some type.

It is a real shame to see what was a good gun be so “customized” like this. Or maybe over customized is the term. It is just hard to believe that along the way That anyone thought they were doing any sort of good.

[Bill Murphy]

The seller is one sly dude. He posts 33 pictures, but never shows us the left side of the barrel lugs nor does he try to educate us by telling us the pin separation to help us with the original configuration of the gun. If I owned that gun, I would want the potential buyers to know everything I have in my quiver. Unfortunately, I don't think Mr. Murphy has much in his quiver. I'm kind of smitten with that two layer Jostam sponge pad, though. By the way, thanks Dudley for the new pictures.

[Dean Romig]

So immediately the gun is in violation of federal law in that the serial number has been altered.

I noticed the aftermarket ejector pins just forward of the hinge pin.

Parker Brothers and Remington both would have installed ejectors in that gun so we know the owner(s) of that gun were of the same mindset that they “won’t go back to the dealership because they’re dishonest and overcharge you.”

It, unfortunately, is what it is.... a poor unfortunate example of misguided fielty.





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