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George Davis
06-18-2020, 06:36 PM
I have a beautiful 2 Frame 1895 G Grade gun with a short length of pull and it matches the factory letter. Hence don't want to cut the stock and remove the widows peak and put on a thick recoil pad. So my thoughts are someone must make a spacer with the widows peak which then I could add a recoil pad. I'm open to any thoughts, suggestions, ideas or hopefully a supplier for such a spacer. Thanks in advance.

Brian Dudley
06-18-2020, 07:55 PM
Maintaining the spur with a recoil pad is not an issue.

Phillip Carr
06-18-2020, 08:52 PM
George I have a 1 1/2” Silvers style pad with the widows peak if that would work.

Brian Dudley
06-18-2020, 08:54 PM
It is important to note that the spurs that are on modern day silvers pads are way smaller than that of a dogs head buttplate. Or even compared to old original silvers pads.

Phillip Carr
06-18-2020, 09:09 PM
Yes I don’t disagree but a few I have had fit locally by Frank Wells before he retired.
I believe he used an epoxy and the fit and finish was very nice.
Personally I don’t care for the look of the extra thick pads but I like it better than a wood extension unless blended properly, and the difference is cost is substantial.

Chuck Bishop
06-18-2020, 10:01 PM
I've done it with a black KickEzz pad and black dyed Acra Glas. You would have never known the widows peak was not original to the pad.

George Davis
06-19-2020, 10:06 AM
Phil, I would love to purchase one of your pad if it's available. Thanks

Dean Romig
06-19-2020, 10:29 AM
I wanted to fit a recoil pad to my old GH about 15 years ago so I took the worn and chipped DHBP to my belt sander clamped in my bench vise and managed to shape the spur to the right shape and angle and epoxied it to the base of the pad. You can make the joint invisible if you work a little harder at it than I did. Unfortunately you can't see the spur in these pictures but it is there.

And yes, this is the original American black walnut stock on this 1903 GH 12 gauge. I don't know who owns the gun today. I sold it to Wildwood Guns in China Maine about 8-10 years ago. The last picture is from their website ad.


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Phillip Carr
06-19-2020, 12:33 PM
Phil, I would love to purchase one of your pad if it's available. Thanks

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Bob Brown
06-24-2020, 12:43 PM
I had a VH with an old, particularly well fitted Silvers pad on it that I thought the pad peak was very well done. A closer look showed the "black spacer" appeared to be the original DHBP that had been filed flat and the pad glued to it. Perhaps a new repro butt plate could fit and a pad added in the same way? The original could always be put back on later.

Steven Groh
08-08-2020, 07:07 PM
Maintaining the spur with a recoil pad is not an issue.

Please elaborate.
I have the same problem: a short stock to a dhbp.

Steven Groh
08-09-2020, 06:47 PM
My recently acquired 16 ga VH (picked it up from Cabela's today) is an inch too short, even with the dhbp. It is so short (13 3/4"), and my grip hand is so close to my face, that if I fired I proof load, it might break my nose :knowbetter:

The dhbp has a chip off the toe, which I presume could be easily fixed.

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Otherwise the gun shows honest wear, but no abuse whatsoever.

The stock is straight as an arrow and as plain as dishwater, but in great shape.

The barrels show but traces of bluing, and the action and other parts show the last remnants of case color.

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All in all, I am quite pleased. It locks up tight as a drum, it weights but 6 lb 8 oz, and everything seems very much in order. No pits, no dings, no cracks, no buggered screws.

So then, how would one lengthen the pull to reasonably accommodate my needs, without adulterating the gun beyond all recognition?

One idea I had rolling around upstairs would be to glue the existing dhbp to the butt, so that the spur is epoxied in, then cut the butt for pitch, leaving only the spur and a clean surface to attach a black 5/16" spacer and a 1" Galazan or Silvers pad.

I would like to keep the weight down and the balance true. Those 1 1/2" Galazan pads are beasts. If memory serves, they weight in at 11 ounces (or was it 13?) At any rate, I would like to avoid taking a nifty little 16 and turning it into a pig.

Thoughts?

Rick Losey
08-09-2020, 07:28 PM
i don't understand the glue and cut part - are you changing the pitch or is it the flatten the butt?

take the butt plate off - add your spacer - fill the spur void with black acraglass

and add the pad

Steven Groh
08-09-2020, 07:35 PM
i don't understand the glue and cut part - are you changing the pitch or is it the flatten the butt?

take the butt plate off - add your spacer - fill the spur void with black acraglass

and add the pad

As to the pitch question, yes, I would, if and when I were to make such a modification, but I much prefer your idea to mine. That way I could save teh original butt plate, which is fine, except for that small chip.

And rest assured, I would put the job in the hands of someone else, preferably someone who knows what they are doing.

Thanks for the reply.

George Davis
08-09-2020, 07:37 PM
Thank you all for your feedback and suggestion, got a pad from Phil C and having local stock person fit it to the gun. I'll send pictures when it is complete.