8 gauge

[CraigThompson]

Think I have a line on a bunch of once fired Winchester 8 gauge hulls . They’ve been fired in an industrial gun . My question is , after swagging the base will these hulls make a decent folded crimp ? My reason for asking is it appears a good many of the WIN factory 8 gauge loads used a roll crimp I’m just wondering if that will give difficulties when trying to make a folded crimp ?

[edgarspencer]

I know little to nothing at all on the subject, apart from saying that the Winchester hulls given to me, thanks to Mssrs Murphy and Carr, were six point fold crimped, and the Remington hulls were roll crimped.

[CraigThompson]

I know little to nothing at all on the subject, apart from saying that the Winchester hulls given to me, thanks to Mssrs Murphy and Carr, were six point fold crimped, and the Remington hulls were roll crimped.

I suppose I could buy one of those cone shaped hull reconditioning things you chuck in a drill and bring them back to life so to speak and perhaps it would be almost like starting with virgin hulls .

[CraigThompson]

You know I’ve used a bunch of 16 gauge hulls that were roll crimped for slugs and gotten decent folded crimps . That was with REM , WIN , Federal and Brenneke . So if they worked okay why wouldn’t the 8’s ?

[edgarspencer]

The plastic is very rigid in the Remington roll crimped hull. After seeing the reconditioner someone recently posted, I tried putting the mouth of the cases in boiling water, then quickly opening them up/ Marginally successful.

[CraigThompson]

The plastic is very rigid in the Remington roll crimped hull. After seeing the reconditioner someone recently posted, I tried putting the mouth of the cases in boiling water, then quickly opening them up/ Marginally successful.

I’m trying to keep away from the REM hulls an 8 gauge aficionado on here told me the WIN was the far easier hull to work with especially for folded crimps . Well as far as 8’s are concerned .

[charlie cleveland]

those heated hull dr s work real good even on the black Remington roll crimped hull you could roll crimp it again or6 way it....some Winchester and Remington hulls have to be trimmed about 1/4 inch the lip becomes brittle and break off...the clear window Winchester will not be clear after being fired 1 time.... charlie

[CraigThompson]

Well it makes no difference the hulls I was after are in the UK and I’ve been informed by the seller that they’re not allowed to ship that item out the country .

[edgarspencer]

they’re not allowed to ship that item out the country .

Maybe 'they're' not allowed to, but they can be exported if the exporter has the correct license.
I saw their website also.

[Bill Murphy]

Unless you are carrying the shells all day in your pocket, why do they have to be crimped at all. Some loaders use "water glass" to seal the over shot wad. I may go to the water glass sealant because crimping is such a pain. I have no idea how to get water glass, so I guess Duco cement may be a good substitute. I always loaded my 10 gauge blanks with no crimp. 3 1/2" shell filled to the brim holds a lot of black powder. I once shot a serious overload, and my Winchester cannon did a back flip off of a wood pile. It landed on soft asphalt and was not damaged.

[Rick Losey]

I may go to the water glass sealant because crimping is such a pain. I have no idea how to get water glass, so I guess Duco cement may be a good substitute.

waterglass is just another name for sodium silicate

it's easy to find online under that name

there are even videos on how to make your own

here you go
https://www.thoughtco.com/make-sodium-silicate-or-water-glass-608271

[Milton C Starr]

Unless you are carrying the shells all day in your pocket, why do they have to be crimped at all. Some loaders use "water glass" to seal the over shot wad. I may go to the water glass sealant because crimping is such a pain. I have no idea how to get water glass, so I guess Duco cement may be a good substitute. I always loaded my 10 gauge blanks with no crimp. 3 1/2" shell filled to the brim holds a lot of black powder. I once shot a serious overload, and my Winchester cannon did a back flip off of a wood pile. It landed on soft asphalt and was not damaged.

I gave always wondered if you could make use out of the extra room you get from a 3.5" shell sealing(overshot card glued in place) that way . I believe crimping them with a star crimp takes up about 1/2" of space . Some of the 10 ga 3.5" loads I used to buy would be 3" crimped but some other brands were actually shorter than that .

You can get a 1 gallon jug of water glass for $20 , could probably do alot of shells with a gallon . This is how Larry Potterfield does his brass shells , I cant recall if it was on his 11 gauge Parkers video or the 10 gauge .