hevi classic doubles for CHE 10ga- sleeved to 12

[Lucius Lamar Heiskell Jr]

I have a Che 10ga that has been sleeved to 12 ga. My grandfather used it turkey hunting and I know he shot 2 3/4 in turkey loads in it. Will the classic doubles from hevi be too high pressured for it, or should it be better suited to shoot them since it has thicker barrels than standard. I want to use it for a special duck hunt.

[David Dwyer]

Lucius
A CHE 10 ga is a very rare gun. If you look in the blue book of gun values they do not list values, just state it is so rare the do not see enough to put a value on one. I need to know what type of steel the gun barrel was sleeved with? My sleeved guns have the equilivent of a modern steel barrel and can handle modern shells.
David

[Lucius Lamar Heiskell Jr]

unfortunately I don't not know who put them in. It was done up east i believe. They also replaced the stock and fore end so the value of the gun is greatly reduced from what I gather. Tried to upload pics but they kept failing.

[Bruce Day]

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[Lucius Lamar Heiskell Jr]

had to reduce the size of the photos to get them on. will try more later. I thought i had pics of the sleeving from the rear but can't find them. Would love to find the original stocks that were replaced but both dad and grandfather gone so no idea where or when it was done.

[James T. Kucaba]

Nothing more beautiful than a set of Bernard barrels !

Jim Kucaba ... AriZOOna Cactus Patch ... Email: JimKucaba@aol.com

[Bill Murphy]

Keep trying to post those pictures. I have a DH #3 frame 12 sleeved to 10 magnum by Lefever. I feel confident to shoot dynamite in it.

[Fred Preston]

My NH 10 #3 frame was completely redone by the DelGrego shop several years ago, restocked (good dimensions) and colored; and the twist barrels were cut off and steel barrels were sleeved in and chambered at 3&1/2" (probably by the Lefever shop). I have shot 3#1/2" steel 12ga through Gaugemates out of it; the Black Cloud wad will just pass through the choke. Patterns well and no apparant harm.

[Lucius Lamar Heiskell Jr]

trying again for one pic

[Dean Romig]

A lovely CH - please show us more.

It will need to be restocked again if you wish it to be more representative of what it was when it left that "dusty little plant down in Meriden."

[Lucius Lamar Heiskell Jr]

2 more pics and will take better ones today with at least one showing the sleeving from the back. Yes I know it has the wrong stocks. What does it cost to get original ones made? Also have anyone heard of removing the sleeves or tubes and going back to a 10 ga? It would only serve to make it original as I used to have 10 ga auto for turkey hunting and just don't think I would hunt with this gun as a 10 ga.

[Bruce Day]

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[Dean Romig]

From all I hear Donnie Gemmes at Show-Me Gunstocks is your best bet for original checkering style and shape.

A 12 ga. with the right chokes will kill turkeys just fine.

[Bill Murphy]

You should leave your lined barrels as is. There is absolutely no chance that the removal of the liners will result in high condition original bores of original dimensions. You have a wonderful, useful gun as is. Do what you want with the stock, but without pictures, I can't tell you what I would do with it.

[Bruce Day]

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[Lucius Lamar Heiskell Jr]

pic of tubes

[Dean Romig]

I know Donnie takes a long time and we'll probably all agree that quality work does take extra time especially for a small shop, and I've even heard up to a year-and-a-half from Donnie but this is the first time I've heard 2 - 3 years - are you sure about that Bruce?

Another choice would be Dennis Earl Smith "The Stock Doctor" for a quality restock.

[Dean Romig]

Nope, you've gotta leave those in there.

[Lucius Lamar Heiskell Jr]

Resized these pics to fit. Yea, I know the stocks are not great looking. I DIDN"T DO THIS! I also have several guns that my other grandfather had redone that will make you cringe. I don't think I can afford to do the stocks now, and my question about the sleeving or tubes was to determine if there was a value to be gained by making it original again. If I did that then it probably would be shot alot less, but it will probably not get shot much anyway. I have a duck hunt in January in which we will all have to shoot guns from Nash Buckingham days and also wear old style clothing. It will be at Beaver Dam and is in celebration of the recent surfacing of Bo Whoop. I also have an Ithaca 12 ga that is all original. It belonged to a great grandfather. Don't know which one I will shoot yet, maybe both!

[Bruce Day]

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[Bill Murphy]

There is a person who posts on one of the gun sites who will stripe and refinish a plain stock to make it look like English Walnut. I think your CHE is a good candidate for this work. I would not even consider restocking your gun. It looks like a very good job as is.

[Richard Flanders]

Those breeches look like they could be used to test small nuclear devices! The stock work does look excellent. I agree with Bill; I'd consider having the finish dolled up some with some striping, maybe some reddish or darker coloration and a nice oil finish.

[Dave Suponski]

I'm of the same opinion as Bil,Rich and Dean. Lovely gun...

[Bruce Day]

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[Lucius Lamar Heiskell Jr]

great ideas! Thanks for the suggestions. If anyone runs across his name, I might consider the striping and refinish of the stock as it is not original anyway. At least it could be made to look more like the original colors maybe, and then several years from now when I am not putting 3 kids through school, I might be able to afford a real nice set of original wood type done to the factory specs. Hope to join for real and order a letter for the gun to get more history and info on it. It might have been in the family the whole time. Do the letters state who the original buyer was?

[Bruce Day]

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[Marc Retallack]

Lucius

Try this link http://www.larsongunart.com/ I believe Mark Larson is who Mr. Murphy was trying to think of.

Cheers
Marcus

[George Lander]

Lucius: I would suggest Jim Kelly at The Darlington Gun Works, Darlington , South Carolina
It was he who re-stocked Nash Buckingham's "Bo Whoop". He has done refinishing and colouring gun wood for me and the results were always excellant.

Best Regards, George