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Rick Riddell
05-18-2020, 11:45 AM
I was curious how hard this might be, going from a pistol grip to straight stock? I know a long tang trigger guard is needed, would the shape and design of the pistol grip affect the outcome of the straight stock?

Brian Dudley
05-18-2020, 11:59 AM
It can be done and had been done a lot with many different makes of guns. Heck, I have seen an original Parker G grade that was converted from PG to SG at the Meriden factory.

The biggest consideration with doing this to any gun is proper form when all is said and done (if you care about such things, which you should). If you take a straight edge and connect the front of the grip to the toe of the stock, this will give you the new toe line. Then look at the grip. Is it even going back behind the action? Ideally you do not want the look of a pinch in front of the comb. You either want it an even thickness or it to get slightly fatter as it gos back. And you done want to have a perch belly in the toe line of the stock either.

And, if this is being done to a finished stock with good sharp checkering, you have to figure how that is going to be worked out with extending and modifying the pattern.

Rick Riddell
05-18-2020, 12:20 PM
Excellent!!! Thank you Brian for the reply!!

Dean Romig
05-18-2020, 01:24 PM
Further - The angle of the top tang of the frame varies somewhat between the PG frame and the SG frame. This could be an obstacle to attaining those desired contours Brian mentions above.





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edgarspencer
05-19-2020, 08:47 AM
These three guns are all 0 frame, the top is a VHE28, the other two DHE20s.
There is no measurable difference in the top tangs. I first held one atop the other, then used a 12" Profile gauge
The top gun an original Meriden straight, the middle and original Meriden PG, and the bottom is a Meriden PG, converted to straight. The conversion was one of Otis Odum's creations

Rick Riddell
05-19-2020, 09:09 AM
Thanks Edgar!!! I love the straight grip, might have this one converted, but I would lose some history on it, decisions, decisions!!!

Reggie Bishop
05-19-2020, 09:15 AM
Edgar that sure is a nice looking 28 gauge!

:envy::envy:

King Brown
05-19-2020, 10:15 AM
Edgar, why bottom gun frame not case-hardened? Risk of warping? I ask because Nick Makinson advised not case-hardening on restored Sterly many years ago. I didn't.

edgarspencer
05-19-2020, 10:52 AM
Edgar, why bottom gun frame not case-hardened?

Case colors are worn off, except for protected areas.

Joseph Sheerin
05-19-2020, 02:01 PM
Pretty good video from Midway on converting a Model 21 from PG to Straight stock.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=81WDqhKRHiM

Larry Stauch
05-19-2020, 08:06 PM
Thanks Edgar!!! I love the straight grip, might have this one converted, but I would lose some history on it, decisions, decisions!!!

Rick; isn't this just a great reason to buy another gun?:rotf:

Dean Romig
05-19-2020, 09:03 PM
Thanks Edgar!!! I love the straight grip, might have this one converted, but I would lose some history on it, decisions, decisions!!!

Nonsense!
Save the original stock to be passed along to the next owner of your gun.





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Harry Collins
05-20-2020, 09:04 AM
These two VH's were restocked by Show Me Gun Stocks in Warsaw, Missouri. The 16 came to me from my cousin without a stock and the 12 lost it's stock and barrels at the hands of Sherman Bell. I got the straight stock trigger guard bows from Galazan's https://connecticutshotgun.co/parker-straight-grip-guards/ Donnie Gemes kept the cost down by picking up scrap wood off the floor.

charlie cleveland
05-20-2020, 09:44 AM
both really nice stocks but the 2 nd picture really does it for me...scrap wood makes nice stocks....charlie

Rick Riddell
05-20-2020, 05:18 PM
Nonsense!
Save the original stock to be passed along to the next owner of your gun.





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I think Dean has convinced me, PB stamp under the tang, I would hate to loose it. I wish I could afford another one! I guess a guy needs a PG amongst all the British straight grips!

Dean Romig
05-20-2020, 06:35 PM
What I meant was to change it to a straight grip if you want to but save tha original for historic verification and if the next owner wants a pistol grip, he’ll have the original.





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Rick Riddell
05-20-2020, 08:10 PM
What I meant was to change it to a straight grip if you want to but save tha original for historic verification and if the next owner wants a pistol grip, he’ll have the original.





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Totallly got it, just needed that swift kick! It would be cool to convert but would really regret it later. A replacement stock is a long shot. So it will stay!

Joseph Sheerin
05-21-2020, 09:07 AM
Totallly got it, just needed that swift kick! It would be cool to convert but would really regret it later. A replacement stock is a long shot. So it will stay!

Best option is to just buy another gun, once with a straight stock. :D