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edgarspencer
04-16-2020, 12:17 PM
Many years ago, Jerry Andrews did a long, protracted trade, where I ended up with two 16bore, lightened receiver top lever hammer guns. Their SN#s were 55,094, and 55,096.
The serialization book shows 3 consecutive guns, all as above. All I needed to find was 55,095. Yeah, Right!
As they were not really consecutive, and I had others, I eventually sold them. Both went to members, and I know one was resold, as it shows up at Mr. Barnett's site (Right, Eric?)
The other went to the Pea Picker.
Well, damned if what didn't show up on the Morphy Auction site:

https://auctions.morphyauctions.com/_A__DANDY_P_GRADE_PARKER_BROS__16_BORE_HAMMER_SHOT-LOT482585.aspx

Dean Romig
04-16-2020, 01:07 PM
It will be very interesting to see what that one goes for, including all premiums and commissions... e.g., the acquisition price.





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Mills Morrison
04-16-2020, 01:33 PM
Wow! Wouldn't it be something if all three wound up together?

Strange things happen in this world . . . IE: Bill Murphy and the Charleston CH 2 barrel set

edgarspencer
04-16-2020, 02:13 PM
The original purchasers of 094 and 096 were both in New England; one in Worcester area, the other in VT. I never bothered to get a letter for 095 because I exhausted any hope of finding it.

Dean Romig
04-16-2020, 02:48 PM
I once owned 74443, 74446 and 74625 - all Grade 1 guns with Laminated Steel barrels in 16 gauge with the lightened 0-frame and all had the fishtail lever. Two of them were 28" and one was 26" - the only one made with 26" barrels in this configuration.

Edgar, it would have been a wonderful stroke of luck if you had found 095 when you had its sisters!





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Mills Morrison
04-16-2020, 02:56 PM
I think I have seen at least one of these guns, if it is the member from Vermont I am thinking of. Those 16 hammer guns of that era are things of beauty. My G 16 is in the 53,000 sn range

Eric Eis
04-16-2020, 03:01 PM
Many years ago, Jerry Andrews did a long, protracted trade, where I ended up with two 16bore, lightened receiver top lever hammer guns. Their SN#s were 55,094, and 55,096.
The serialization book shows 3 consecutive guns, all as above. All I needed to find was 55,095. Yeah, Right!
As they were not really consecutive, and I had others, I eventually sold them. Both went to members, and I know one was resold, as it shows up at Mr. Barnett's site (Right, Eric?)
The other went to the Pea Picker.
Well, damned if what didn't show up on the Morphy Auction site:

https://auctions.morphyauctions.com/_A__DANDY_P_GRADE_PARKER_BROS__16_BORE_HAMMER_SHOT-LOT482585.aspx

You are right Edgar, I did have to trade that gun and about another seven guns for my Holland 28 ga, didn't want to let it go but I love the Holland! :)

Dean Romig
04-16-2020, 03:10 PM
I think I have seen at least one of these guns, if it is the member from Vermont I am thinking of. Those 16 hammer guns of that era are things of beauty. My G 16 is in the 53,000 sn range


I sold 74443 to a member in Vt about 4 years ago.


Here's 74446...


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edgarspencer
04-16-2020, 03:13 PM
Mills, and Dean; you misunderstood me. The VT gun was MADE for a pharmacist/ State Senator from VT. I'll dig the letters out later. Im off to pick fiddleheads now

Mills Morrison
04-16-2020, 03:16 PM
Mills, and Dean; you misunderstood me. The VT gun was MADE for a pharmacist/ State Senator from VT. I'll dig the letters out later. Im off to pick fiddleheads now

That is interesting too.

todd allen
04-16-2020, 03:16 PM
Many years ago, Jerry Andrews did a long, protracted trade, where I ended up with two 16bore, lightened receiver top lever hammer guns. Their SN#s were 55,094, and 55,096.
The serialization book shows 3 consecutive guns, all as above. All I needed to find was 55,095. Yeah, Right!
As they were not really consecutive, and I had others, I eventually sold them. Both went to members, and I know one was resold, as it shows up at Mr. Barnett's site (Right, Eric?)
The other went to the Pea Picker.
Well, damned if what didn't show up on the Morphy Auction site:

https://auctions.morphyauctions.com/_A__DANDY_P_GRADE_PARKER_BROS__16_BORE_HAMMER_SHOT-LOT482585.aspx
I have the same exact gun with 28" bbls. Serial number is 72105

Garry L Gordon
04-16-2020, 05:23 PM
Interesting post. I have two grade 2 16s that are consecutively numbered. I bought them a year apart at auction not knowing they were so numbered. Both are lightening cut O frames. Not in the greatest condition, but nice pieces of history.

edgarspencer
04-16-2020, 05:24 PM
55,094, 095 and 096 were all 26" Grade 0 guns.
55,094 was sold to Mr. JG Bellrose of Burlington, Vermont and shipped on August 7th, 1890.

55,096 was sold to L.H.Mayott, of Springfield, Massachusetts, and shipped on August 7th, 1890
L.H.Mayott was a sporting goods retailer.

Mills Morrison
04-16-2020, 05:38 PM
Interesting post. I have two grade 2 16s that are consecutively numbered. I bought them a year apart at auction not knowing they were so numbered. Both are lightening cut O frames. Not in the greatest condition, but nice pieces of history.

Sounds very interesting. Can you tell us more? I love my G 16 and it is a 0 frame with lightening cuts

Dean Romig
04-16-2020, 06:44 PM
Mills, and Dean; you misunderstood me. The VT gun was MADE for a pharmacist/ State Senator from VT. I'll dig the letters out later. Im off to pick fiddleheads now


No, I got that. Fiddlesticks???:whistle:





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John Dallas
04-16-2020, 09:25 PM
Fiddleheads? Right time of the year

edgarspencer
04-16-2020, 10:21 PM
Fiddleheads? Right time of the year

After an hour of swamp crossings, and deciding it was still early for them, it occurred to me that my dog was having too much fun to call it a wasted hike 11 years old and still a pup.

Garry L Gordon
04-17-2020, 10:44 AM
Sounds very interesting. Can you tell us more? I love my G 16 and it is a 0 frame with lightening cuts

Mills, they are 1886-87 shipped guns (oddly enough, shipped about a year apart, but with consecutive serial numbers). I assume made in advance to have on hand and sent out when an order arose. I had Brad Batchelder restore one of them -- it was pretty rough. Neither is a very light gun, even with the 0 frame and lightening cuts. Both have 28 inch barrels and were originally choked pretty tightly, although the '87-shipped gun has had its right barrel choke opened at some point in time...and a straight stock (with Parker long tang and serial number stamping under it) added somewhere along the road. Certainly not collector status guns, but "venerable" none the less.

Mills Morrison
04-17-2020, 01:07 PM
Very nice!!!! And a straight grip too!

Michael Bartlett
04-18-2020, 07:46 AM
Dean appreciate the photos, I just picked up a 1-frame, Grade 1, 12 with twist barrels.

your photos helped in determining it to be a grade 1.

Thanks,

Mike B

Mike Koneski
04-18-2020, 09:11 AM
Edgar, too bad you don't have those other two guns. Josh would have set this third gun aside and you could have purchased it for "cheap" at a PGCA Member's Only special Morphy's sale price.

edgarspencer
04-18-2020, 03:46 PM
Edgar, too bad you don't have those other two guns. Josh would have set this third gun aside and you could have purchased it for "cheap" at a PGCA Member's Only special Morphy's sale price.

Lockdown getting to your brain? Starting to see things? Hearing little voices?

Mike Koneski
04-18-2020, 05:04 PM
Lockdown getting to your brain? Starting to see things? Hearing little voices?

Me??? Why would you ask that?? Just because one hears voices doesn't mean nobody is talking to him. :eek: