Parker made composite barrels

[Rick Riddell]

Would this be a mark of factory made barrels?

[Jay Oliver]

Hi Rick,

I saw that gun and talked to the guy about it. I am not sure about the stamp on the barrel lug next to the frame size. I have some barrels that are believed to be Parker made that just have a "P" on the barrel flats.

What I did notice or speculate, was that Parker didn't put the frame size on the barrel lugs on their early guns. Those barrels also have the 1875/1876 patent dates on the barrels and that gun was likely made in 1872. So I assumed those are not the original barrels to that gun.

They could be Parker made barrels, but even though there same serial number is stamped on them, I think something is up with that gun.

Not exactly the question you asked, but I hope that helps somewhat. If I can find a picture of the barrels flats of the Parker made barrels I have I will post them.

[Dean Romig]

Lets see the stamps on the right barrel flat ans what barrel steel is stamped on the rib?

Parker Brothers “only” manufactured Laminated Steel barrels and the majority of the Parker-made Laminated barrels have a P stamped on the forward end of the right barrel flat.

Parker only made their own barrels in 1877, ‘78 and ‘79. Earlier than 1877 are not Parker-made barrels.

I have seen that P.B. In the shield on other types of barrel steel.

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[Jay Oliver]

Here is a picture of mine from Lifter# 23102

As mentioned in Dean's post, mine are Laminated Steel.

[Rick Riddell]

Thanks guys! The gun is on GB https://www.gunbroker.com/item/857376971
The price is a little high but the back action and then the PB in the shield stamp caught my attention and thought to ask! Still curious though!

[Brian Dudley]

A gun like that would (serial 945) be too early for the supposed Parker made tube timframe, right?

[Drew Hause]

Scroll down about 1/2 way for some information, mostly courtesy of John Davis, which I believe he shared here
https://docs.google.com/document/d/12y9006Ur7mMCqdeeye89c7L4DQrc2iXR8p4S6OIN1bA/edit

[Rick Riddell]

Hi Rick,

I saw that gun and talked to the guy about it. I am not sure about the stamp on the barrel lug next to the frame size. I have some barrels that are believed to be Parker made that just have a "P" on the barrel flats.

What I did notice or speculate, was that Parker didn't put the frame size on the barrel lugs on their early guns. Those barrels also have the 1875/1876 patent dates on the barrels and that gun was likely made in 1872. So I assumed those are not the original barrels to that gun.

They could be Parker made barrels, but even though there same serial number is stamped on them, I think something is up with that gun.

Not exactly the question you asked, but I hope that helps somewhat. If I can find a picture of the barrels flats of the Parker made barrels I have I will post them.

Based on the article Drew posted and your conclusions, that stamp is probably a repair stamp for factory replacement barrels!

[Dean Romig]

A gun like that would (serial 945) be too early for the supposed Parker made tube timframe, right?


Way too early Brian... about 5 - 6 years too early.





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[Dean Romig]

Based on the article Drew posted and your conclusions, that stamp is probably a repair stamp for factory replacement barrels!


I have seen that P.B. in the shield on far too many early barrels to believe it was an indication of replaced barrels. Repair?..... maybe





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[Rick Riddell]

I have seen that P.B. in the shield on far too many early barrels to believe it was an indication of replaced barrels. Repair?..... maybe





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Possibly, I was just speculating on what Jay had said, he spoke with the gentlemen that is selling or possible owner who sold. Still very interesting!

[Jay Oliver]

I was excited about this gun at first. I like back actions alot and would like to find one that something other than decarbonized steel barrels. I thought it would be a usable back action with the original barrel length of 30". Most of the back actions I run across have cut barrels.

There isn't a letter on #945 and I think there would be if the barrel repair/replacement was done. I have lifter#1310 and it had a letter for re-stocking, action work and barrel refinish in the late 1880s.(just some speculation...).

I would be okay if the barrels were replacements, but on these I question the shootability. There is pitting, a few dents and that rather large gash. I wanted to like this gun, but those barrels raise questions...especially at the asking price.

[charlie cleveland]

i shoot a back action gun that has plain steel barrels on it in fact i got 2 of the back action guns with plain steel barrels on them...both are 10 ga and are in good shape....charlie