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Mike Koneski
03-10-2020, 08:22 PM
I have a good friend who is a machinist. He wants to know if anyone has any specs for Parker firing pins. He is willing to make them, all he needs are the specs for whatever iterations of firing pins there are for hammer and hammerless guns. He is also willing to make any other problem parts, hammers, screws, etc. If anyone has the specs, please send them to me. If anyone has any interest in parts, please let me know. He's looking to gauge shooter/collector interest in replacement parts. THX!!What replacement parts would you be interested in?
Brian Dudley
03-10-2020, 08:32 PM
Mike,
I hate to rain on this endeavor, but I have kind of done this already and put forth the money to have a number of useful parts/screws made in quantity which I stock and have sources for.
The other thing to consider is what parts are actually NEEDED to have for new manufacture. There are a lot of items in the Parker part list that rarely break and the supply of used parts are plentiful for them. But others are useful to have made new.
If you want to contact me on this privately to get more of my thoughts on this, feel free. And by all means collect information from members on their thoughts as well. And it never hurts to have machining capability out there by people who know and appreciate gun parts. One just has to weigh the demand vs the cost to make them.
Mike Koneski
03-11-2020, 05:41 AM
Thanks Brian. I’ll give you a call before the weekend.
Bill Murphy
03-11-2020, 07:54 AM
32 inch barrels for 0 frame guns. I'll take about ten sets.
Kevin McCormack
03-11-2020, 10:08 AM
"I wish they broke hammers!"
Babe Del Grego during the shop move from North 5th Avenue to Barringer Road. (There were something like 3 full print case drawers full of them).
Harold Lee Pickens
03-11-2020, 10:54 AM
Bill, I'll cut 2 inches off my set of 34" twist 16 ga for you.:)
CraigThompson
03-11-2020, 11:23 AM
An abundance of hammer retaining screws for lifters or top levers would be nice . I’d be in for about a dozen of them to start .
Scot Cardillo
03-11-2020, 12:01 PM
A note on perspective:
I’m a Machinist (by trade) and will buy parts before making them, all day every day. Good luck to your friend and I hope he finds a market that will pay him back for his initial time and investment b/c in most cases he’ll have to sell a lot of parts b/f turning to profit through individual, or even limited production sales. Sucks, but that’s just how it is. If he’s driven by passion, well, that’s an entirely different thing altogether and, good luck to your friend!
Kenny Graft
03-12-2020, 07:21 AM
I hope that people who can produce these parts are willing to do so. It could be a side project for fun or a challenge, or one of many good reasons… Many skilled workers spend their free time doing projects that do not pay anything for their time and effort for the better good of friends or just a good cause. If the said work is for profit only then most likely it will not proceed! I think of large machine shops that workers make things for friends over the lunch hour who race cars or motor bikes for example and need things they can't buy....its donated work. I have donated my skilled work and others have given to me and That's a win win!! Maybe we need some LUNCH BOX PARTS MADE UP! SXS Ohio
Mike Koneski
03-12-2020, 04:01 PM
A note on perspective:
I’m a Machinist (by trade) and will buy parts before making them, all day every day. Good luck to your friend and I hope he finds a market that will pay him back for his initial time and investment b/c in most cases he’ll have to sell a lot of parts b/f turning to profit through individual, or even limited production sales. Sucks, but that’s just how it is. If he’s driven by passion, well, that’s an entirely different thing altogether and, good luck to your friend!
Scot, he owns a machine shop and already makes parts for other manufacturer's vintage doubles. Making more parts is not a problem for him. I know there are other fine craftsmen on here who already make some parts. He just asked me to see if there was any need for his services for Parker Universe. Not trying to step on anyone's toes here.
Scot Cardillo
03-12-2020, 04:35 PM
Scot, he owns a machine shop and already makes parts for other manufacturer's vintage doubles. Making more parts is not a problem for him. I know there are other fine craftsmen on here who already make some parts. He just asked me to see if there was any need for his services for Parker Universe. Not trying to step on anyone's toes here.
Right on. With that said, I won’t tear into one just because, but if it happens that I have to take down a Repro, I’ll reach out to you to let you know and would be happy to do a little reverse engineering for him so he’s got some sketches of whatever he’d like. The only part I can think of on a Repro that’s easily accessed w/out a complete take down, and is also prone to damage would be ejector stops. They’re pretty weak on the 28g Repro’s in particular. If he’d like accurate dimensional specs on them for all gauges, just let me know and I’ll tcb.
Brian Dudley
03-12-2020, 04:37 PM
Scott,
The issue with the ejector stop plate on the 28g guns is not the plate. It is the actual extension itself.
Scot Cardillo
03-12-2020, 04:44 PM
Scot, he owns a machine shop and already makes parts for other manufacturer's vintage doubles. Making more parts is not a problem for him. I know there are other fine craftsmen on here who already make some parts. He just asked me to see if there was any need for his services for Parker Universe. Not trying to step on anyone's toes here.
Scott,
The issue with the ejector stop plate on the 28g guns is not the plate. It is the actual extension itself.
Yeah, the dovetails..nothing he’d be able to do about that w/out a little more serious work. But, the plates get bent and worn from movement a little sometimes too, no? Maybe make them a shade oversized so’s they can be hand fitted..would that be useful in your travels Brian?
Brian Dudley
03-12-2020, 06:09 PM
Making the plates larger would just make the problem worse.
And once the extension dovetail is damaged they really cannot be repaired well enough for them to function as designed. Then things have to be modified.
In the ones I have fixed, the plates are perfectly fine, the extension metal just blows apart.
I think that the only proactive solution to the issue would be maybe to replace the screw with one that has a head on it and actually holds the plate back against the slot. The existing screw only keeps it from pulling up out of the slot.
Scot Cardillo
03-12-2020, 07:13 PM
I think that the only proactive solution to the issue would be maybe to replace the screw with one that has a head on it and actually holds the plate back against the slot. The existing screw only keeps it from pulling up out of the slot.
Agreed 100% - the screw only keeps the plate from moving up/down and oversized plates can work, but it's not that straight forward a solution. I have one that's a bit loose and don't like swaging the dovetails any more than I have to, to tighten it if I can avoid it. To exacerbate the problem on mine, the plate hole to screw head tolerance isn't dead perfect so the plate can move up and down when shooting, which is annoying. Notwithstanding a new screw with a larger head to match the hole, I thought about a small c-bore in the plate and a new screw to match but seem to recall the plate was a bit thin for that, or I got lazy. I don't remember.
Good feedback. As always, thanks Brian.
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