Number check BHE with 3" chambers

[todd allen]

Wonder if this is verifiable
Serial Number; 132686
Thanks in advance

[Steve Huffman]

Join the PGCA and order a letter will be the best way to find that out Serial # book wont tell

[todd allen]

I expire every year. Should'a bought a life membership back in the day, but at 67, annual could be life. Never know.
Thanks for the response.

[Rick Losey]

not in the book, and that would not give the chamber length if it was

a letter may

rejoining just for the letter would be worth it for a BHE IMHO

[todd allen]

Been with the PGCA since 1996. Life membership would have been a good investment.

[ED J, MORGAN]

It still would be.

[Dean Romig]

A Life Membership would take you through age 80 at $40/year.... if the Annual Membership remains at $40.

That's the optimistic viewpoint. On the pessimistic side "Life Member of the PGCA" would make a nice bullet-point in your epitaph. :cool:




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[todd allen]

I'll get the membership reup done this weekend. Then I'll get the letter ordered.

[Gary Carmichael Sr]

Todd, I thought the same as you when I opted for a life membership over the annual, I will be 78 God willing on March 7th and continue to enjoy the benefits of life membership not having to remember to re-up every year, and the great storehouse of knowledge that can be gleaned from this site.A few years ago I knew a gentleman that I admired very much for his business savvy I ask him how he did it. He said he planned ahead, 40 years or more. He was 65 at the time he is now over 90 and has had a few ups and downs but still works every day, I have not forgotten what he said, Gary

[ED J, MORGAN]

Gary, I will be 82 march 6 th.

[Gary Carmichael Sr]

Happy Birthday my friend, hope we both have a few more. Have you ever stopped to think how many raffle tickets you have sold over the years, Thank you for what you have done and continue to do, Gary

[todd allen]

Done, and doner. Letter request emailed. Hope this answers the question(s)
That said, when was the first known example of 3" 12 ga. chambers first produced?

[charlie cleveland]

good question...hope someone can answer this for you...charlie

[Dave Noreen]

I'd bet Parker Bros. was chambering 12-gauge "Pigeon Guns" for 3-inch 12-gauge shells in the 1890s, maybe earlier.

In those days the long shells didn't have a heavier payload. More/better wadding was their feature.

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The 12-gauge 3-inch progressive burning powder, high velocity loads with 1 3/8 ounce of shot came on the market circa 1924/5 --

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The 12-gauge 3-inch Magnum load with 1 5/8 ounce of shot came out in 1935, along with Winchester's Model 12 Heavy Duck.

[Jim McKee]

Todd,
I choose a Life Membership when I was 69
Never regretted it!!
Jim

[charlie cleveland]

really like those 3 inch shell boxes..i have 2 boxes of the 3 inch record shells and a few boxes of the 3 inch 1 3/8 ounce loads in 12 ga ive got to learn how to post pictures....charlie

[todd allen]

The letter arrived yesterday. (Thanks Chuck) The pedigree of the gun was confirmed. Ownership, choke boring, (IC/Full. Dimensions, etc.
The gun was purchased in 1905, and then returned to the factory for a complete tune-up in 1909.
No mention of the chamber lengths, so all we can do is speculate.
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[Reggie Bishop]

Deep South bird hunting town. Not likely a quail gun though!

[todd allen]

He spec'd it at 8 lbs, and evidently wanted an open first shot, and super tight second barrel.
The same combination I have preferred on hand thrown pigeons. (Hmmmm) Then you throw in 3" chambers. Waterfowl?
I wish this gun could talk.

[Mills Morrison]

Very interesting.

[Michael Moffa]

Ok, it sounds like the owner of the BHE was planning ahead. Call em in over decoys, miss with the first shot and hope for the best with the second.

[todd allen]

Here is a turn of the Century pic of CD Smith (on right) with his brother
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[Randy G Roberts]

There appears to be minimal tissue damage so it is my guess those fine specimens were taken with the right barrel. :rotf:

[todd allen]

Well, at least we now know for sure it was refinished . Parker 1909 ; -)
Oh, and the chokes are original.

[Ken Hill]

Todd,

Do you have a picture of this gun you can post? It would be interesting to see the engraving on the floor plate.

Ken

[todd allen]

Here's a link to it on the for sale forum;
http://parkerguns.org/forums/showthread.php?t=28930

[allen newell]

God bless you Ed. Stay well. You give hope to the rest of us aging pgca members