10ga aahe

[Dallas Passow]

I've seen a listing for an aahe 10ga for sale. It is in rough shape in my opinion but not terrible. Wondering if an aahe is worth that much. I still need to confirm that it truly is an AA hammer with matching numbers. If just like to be better prepared when it comes to negotiating the sale. My current Parker's are D grade and in pretty great shape,.so the idea of buying one with some rust and pitting is giving me a bit of angst, even if it truly is an AA

[Jay Oliver]

Unless I am missing something the Parker Story doesn't list any AA 10 Gauge hammer guns being made. As for AAH or AAHE(hammerless) 10ga. guns there were 2, 1 with 30" and 1 with 32" barrels.

It may be an A grade hammer gun(grade 6 not 7), I would double check the listing/pictures and ask the seller for more information.

Some honest or even hard wear wouldn't bother me if it is something special(and the price is right).

[Milton C Starr]

Unless I am missing something the Parker Story doesn't list any AA 10 Gauge hammer guns being made. As for AAH or AAHE(hammerless) 10ga. guns there were 2, 1 with 30" and 1 with 32" barrels.

It may be an A grade hammer gun(grade 6 not 7), I would double check the listing/pictures and ask the seller for more information.

Some honest or even hard wear wouldn't bother me if it is something special(and the price is right).

I believe there was just a AHE or AH 10 ga sold on GI for 7900$ .
Looks like it only took them a few days to sell it .

[Bill Murphy]

Milton, I missed that one. Can you give us an item number so we can see a picture?

[Dallas Passow]

Follow-up to my initial post. Turns out the gun is an early E grade, not an AAHE. Thought it was to good to be true.

[Milton C Starr]

Milton, I missed that one. Can you give us an item number so we can see a picture?

Ok i found it , it was a AH I couldnt quite remember what the grade was .
It sold extremely quick .

https://www.gunsinternational.com/guns-for-sale-online/shotguns/parker-shotguns---antique/parker---ah-damascus---10-ga.cfm?gun_id=101366474

[Bill Murphy]

Wow, what a gun. Solid as a rock and all there. I wish I could make out the serial number in the pictures. Probably a world's fair gun. Who bought it? Thanks, Milton.

[Craig Larter]

I confess it's mine. 83621, Boston Sportsmen Show gun 1898.

March 19th 1898 Sporting Life
PARKER BROS., MERIDKN, CONN. One of the largest assortment of shot guns was shown by this old and well established firm. They had a sample of all the different grades, from the cheapest hammer and hainmerless to the very finest pigeon gun costing $400. Over 80 guns in all were exhibited here. The light and pretty 16-gaupe, the medium weight and popular 12-gauge, the heavier 10-gauge and the big 8-bore were shown side by side. A special sample exhibited was the new grade pigeon gun with Titanic steel barrels, which possess wonderful strength. These guns list at $100, $150 and $200, and are bound to please any shooter who possesses one. A. W. Du Bray and L. C. Parker were in charge.

[Mills Morrison]

Good job Craig! Right up your alley

[Reggie Bishop]

I told myself that had Craig L written all over it! Nice one!

[Brett Hoop]

Congrats!

[Milton C Starr]

I confess it's mine. 83621, Boston Sportsmen Show gun 1898.

March 19th 1898 Sporting Life
PARKER BROS., MERIDKN, CONN. One of the largest assortment of shot guns was shown by this old and well established firm. They had a sample of all the different grades, from the cheapest hammer and hainmerless to the very finest pigeon gun costing $400. Over 80 guns in all were exhibited here. The light and pretty 16-gaupe, the medium weight and popular 12-gauge, the heavier 10-gauge and the big 8-bore were shown side by side. A special sample exhibited was the new grade pigeon gun with Titanic steel barrels, which possess wonderful strength. These guns list at $100, $150 and $200, and are bound to please any shooter who possesses one. A. W. Du Bray and L. C. Parker were in charge.

I love that dark patina on the action , I wonder how that happens compared to action that are worn back to being almost in the white .

[Craig Larter]

The gun has many strong points, the engraving is in excellent condition as is the checkering. The wood finish is worn but still 80%. The negative is it has a stress crack in the wrist from just behind the tang down to the trigger guard and part of the way up the opposite side. The stock does show some wiggle. I don't want to de-oil the stock to repair the crack so Brian Dudley is going to put a dowel in the wrist coming up from the grip cap. Griffin and Howe were very nice and refunded some dollars due to the crack which was not revealed in their description. I decided to keep the gun since the good outweighs the bad in my opinion. It's a spectacular gun in my opinion and shows very well in hand. Not sure what the brownish tint is but it appears to be patina and not corrosion. I have been told by experienced Parker collectors that the brownish tint will clean with a solvent like lacquer thinner and it may be a permanent change to the metal surface according to others. I plan to go slow with any attempts to clean with a solvent.

[Brian Dudley]

The gun is WAY better in person than it showed in the photos that G&H took.

[Milton C Starr]

The gun is WAY better in person than it showed in the photos that G&H took.

It is a beauty , how rare are 10 ga AH's ?
Theres a 10 ga PHE thats been on GI forever now it seems for a similar price but at the risk of offending I think the AH looks a bit nicer .

[Bill Murphy]

Craig, we would like a picture from your camera. The G&H shots must have been taken in a cave. Great gun, my kind of gun. I'm getting ready to load some tens soon.

[Milton C Starr]

Craig, we would like a picture from your camera. The G&H shots must have been taken in a cave. Great gun, my kind of gun. I'm getting ready to load some tens soon.

Ive been wondering about 10 ga 2 7/8 loads for waterfowling .
Has anyone here used the RST Bismuth loads or loaded ones similar and how effective are they ?

[Reggie Bishop]

RST Bismuth loads produce excellent results.

[Craig Larter]

I will bring it along to the Southern. The Parker Story says 22 AH 10's damascus and 1 AH steel. I believe most were made early either as CEP guns or show guns, after the AAHE came out AH sales were greatly reduced as were 10's after 1900.

[Mills Morrison]

Jerry Smith had a 10 gauge AH that was very early several years ago. It was beautiful and very tempting but also out of my price range

[Kirk Potter]

This one has been on GunBroker for a long time.. I love the engraving on this one. It’s too bad it wasn’t more reasonably priced.

https://www.gunbroker.com/item/844982047

[Brian Dudley]

This one has been on GunBroker for a long time.. I love the engraving on this one. It’s too bad it wasn’t more reasonably priced.

https://www.gunbroker.com/item/844982047



As with ALL of Mikes guns, that have also been on gunbroker for a LONG time.

[Craig Larter]

Mills I remember the AH Jerry Smith had for sale when I told him I would take it was sold. I thought it was a 12ga but your memory is better than mine.

[Milton C Starr]

I will bring it along to the Southern. The Parker Story says 22 AH 10's damascus and 1 AH steel. I believe most were made early either as CEP guns or show guns, after the AAHE came out AH sales were greatly reduced as were 10's after 1900.

I think you got a pretty good deal on that AH 10 ga , theres one of the other 22 made on GB and the seller is asking 27k .

[Milton C Starr]

This one has been on GunBroker for a long time.. I love the engraving on this one. It’s too bad it wasn’t more reasonably priced.

https://www.gunbroker.com/item/844982047

I just seen this one , that seller has alot of old 10 gauge doubles for sell but they are usually priced a bit more than others .

[Rick Losey]

I just seen this one , that seller has alot of old 10 gauge doubles for sell but they are usually priced a bit more than others .

ahh - the plaid table cloth guy -- look at the other items link - 700 guns listed :shock:

and every one I have ever looked at is priced higher than similar guns and I think every one of them is still listed years later

he does seem to be able to find unusual stuff though

[Milton C Starr]

ahh - the plaid table cloth guy -- look at the other items link - 700 guns listed :shock:

and every one I have ever looked at is priced higher than similar guns and I think every one of them is still listed years later

he does seem to be able to find unusual stuff though

I like the 11lb Ithaca Flues he has but im pretty sure Ive seen those for about 1k less than that one just not that heavy .
https://www.gunbroker.com/item/844980545

Has quite a few Parker 10 gauges as well
https://www.gunbroker.com/Side-By-Side-Shotguns/search?PageSize=24&Sort=13&View=1&Ch-Gauge=10&Ch-manufacturerName=Parker

I never see any of his prices drop and most of those guns have been on there for years . I know that 10lb Bonehill 10 ga has been up for sale for 6 years+ because when I bought my 10lb Bonehill 10 ga that looked identical . I was browsing for similar ones to see what they was worth . I got mine for 600$ and hes asking 2500$ for his .

Really at the end of the day somethings only worth what you can actually get for it .

[Kirk Potter]

I search GunBroker every day, for any Parkers listed in the last 24 hours.. Usually about 10-15 pop up. Every once in a while, their will be something like 30-60 listed in the last 24 hours, and they are all his.

[Ken Descovich]

Has anyone tried to dicker with him on price?

[Milton C Starr]

Has anyone tried to dicker with him on price?

Cant say I have but that round body 10 ga he has is interesting , havnt ever seen one of those before .

I have seen worst priced old doubles though like that Grade 2 Parker 10 ga that other seller wants 8k for :shock:

[Craig Larter]

Here is a copy of the letter not too exciting but Griffin and Howe has historical information so I requested it.

[CraigThompson]

I will bring it along to the Southern. The Parker Story says 22 AH 10's damascus and 1 AH steel. I believe most were made early either as CEP guns or show guns, after the AAHE came out AH sales were greatly reduced as were 10's after 1900.

So you now possess AH 83183 and AH 83621 ?

[Craig Larter]

Yes I own both, I have been very fortunate. The gun went back to the factory at some point because it now has the 1905 first style hardened bolt soldered in place as does 83183.

[Mills Morrison]

He has a GH 12 I would like if it were a lot less.

[CraigThompson]

Yes I own both, I have been very fortunate. The gun went back to the factory at some point because it now has the 1905 first style hardened bolt soldered in place as does 83183.

You couldn’t by chance be coaxed into dragging them both to Sanford ? :)

[Craig Larter]

Craig: I would like to show you both guns but the logistics at the Southern make impossible to carry more than one gun. The parking lot is a long way from the Parker/Smith tent.

[Dean Romig]

Craig, you don’t have a (golf bag/gun) cart?

Incidentally Craig, who is doing research packages at G&H now that Bob has retired?





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[Garry L Gordon]

Has anyone tried to dicker with him on price?

Yes, and was successful...at least to a degree. Dickering is not my strength.

Mike has many of his guns at the Gun Shop in Olathe, Kansas (essentially, Kansas City). I like to stop in and look them over. You can spend much time with the number of guns he has there (and there's a comfy chair for the wife to sit in while you fondle guns). If you are passing through KC, you should stop in and check them out. He has a wide range of interesting guns.

[Craig Larter]

Dean I have no idea who is doing the research, I just filled out the request form on line and e-mailed to the requested address. I don't own a shooting cart plus as I recall there is no place in the tent to "park" personal guns that are not part of the official PGCA display.
It may interesting to just have table space for members to park their Parkers while out shopping or visiting. While guns are parked it would be a nice opportunity to see a wide variety of guns.

[Patrick Lien]

This one has been on GunBroker for a long time.. I love the engraving on this one. It’s too bad it wasn’t more reasonably priced.

https://www.gunbroker.com/item/844982047

I recall this AH 10ga being advertised for sale here at a very reasonable price before Mike purchased it.

PML

[CraigThompson]

Craig: I would like to show you both guns but the logistics at the Southern make impossible to carry more than one gun. The parking lot is a long way from the Parker/Smith tent.

Yes , two years ago the only time I’ve been there I was carrying two back to the tent and it was a handful . Not to mention I had no idea where “The tent” was , walked thru all the sales tents and asked several dealers where the Parker display was and they didn’t know . Two 10’s in leg o mutton cases got heavy after walking around trying to find the tent for a good bit longer than if I knew where I was going and walked straight to it .

[Bill Murphy]

I'm sure both of you guys have seen the dozens of cars parked at the Dove Field, which is feet from the PGCA tent. Craig Larter has parked there. You can park there too. When the parking attendant tells you that you have to park on the "road", tell him you want to go to the Dove Field and he will let you drive there. You will be within a one minute or less walk to the PGCA tent.

[Craig Larter]

A little info:
Parker 83621 was received at Abercrombie & Fitch as a Second Hand shotgun on May 11, 1940 with the following spec's: 10 gauge, 32 inch Damascus barrels, non-ejector, 8 # 13 oz., 2 7/8" chambers, F & F, FPG, Grade 'A'. The shotgun was sold on September 6, 1940 for $39.00. The buyer (C.E. Mead).

[bruce a lyons]

Sold a P Webley to Mike back in 2012. He still has it. The stock was cracked. Somehow, it got better. GB 844981553.

[Craig Larter]

A few pictures from today of 83621 in natural light, pretty amazing gun!! Light cleaning with a Frontier pad, still has some brown tint but the CC does show.

[Dean Romig]

Wow three hinds - what a stud!

A fabulous gun Craig!



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[Craig Larter]

Just to close to loop on this gun. As I stated it had a crack at the wrist from the top tang down to the trigger guard on one side. The gun was originally fitted with the hickory rod and that keep it together. I did not want to soak the wood to de-oil it to glue the crack (and lose the original finish and character) so Brian Dudley suggested a carbon fiber 3/8" rod be inserted up through the pistol grip cap past the crack, glassed in place. I couldn't be happier the gun is now completely stable with zero movement.

[Daryl Corona]

That sir is a fantastic gun. I know she will spend some time in the marsh next year.:bowdown: