AAHE 20 ga 32" barrels

[Jim Thynne]

Gunslingers Auction in California has a AAHE 20 ga with 32" barrels. This may be a chance to get a great one for a good buy. Not a lot of advertising on this one, but it is on one of the auction sites. I am pretty well ouit of the business but thought I would pass it on! He has it 25,000.00 to 45,000.00 I think there is a good chance this would be a great buy. I haven't seen the gun but he is good at descriptions!

[CraigThompson]

Might help them if they had pictures in the auction .

[Craig Larter]

is this what appears t be a crack anything to be concerned about?

[Dean Romig]

I’d have that stop-drilled, welded up, smoothed over, shoot it a lot and never worry about it again.





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[Craig Larter]

Thanks Dean that's what I thought but I appreciate your input. Not a gun I am interested in but thanks for the input. Interesting gun, appears the barrels have been re-blued, pad installed (maybe but not in the records??) NO safety is a killer for most. Appears to have a trap style comb???

[Reggie Bishop]

That gun won’t letter either. I wish those records were available.

[Dean Romig]

Reggie, what is the serial number range?





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[Jim DiSpagno]

Dean serial number207210

[Brian Dudley]

is this what appears t be a crack anything to be concerned about?



I dont see a crack.

[Craig Larter]

OK Brian what is your take ? Right side bottom of the slot??

[Brian Dudley]

OK Brian what is your take ? Right side bottom of the slot??



Not a crack. That is the seam between the roll joint and the frame.
Look at any of your other parkers and you will see that seam. Some are less visible than others.

[Craig Larter]

Yep Brian your correct!! Thanks Craig

[Dean Romig]

So all we know is that there were only 6 AAH twenty gauge guns made with 32" barrels.

That definitely has the trap comb on a beautiful piece of wood and it looks like recut checkering correctly done. It wouldn't surprise me to learn the work had been done at Pachmayer.





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[Joe Graziano]

I can just hear the wheels turning. If only I sold this, this and this, took a withdrawal from my 401K, I could totally buy that gun. LOL. I’m with you, but won’t be bidding.

[Dean Romig]

Pull some cash out of one of your life insurance policies, especially if nobody holds a mortgage on your home.






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[Stan Hillis]

Or, alternatively, you could knock over a bank. Acquiring nice 32" small bore Parkers sometimes calls for desperate measures. Trust me.

:whistle:

SRH

[Rich Anderson]

Pull some cash out of one of your life insurance policies, especially if nobody holds a mortgage on your home.






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Thats the last way I'd finance a gun. If you take it that way your subject to a loan rate of around 8% and it snowballs every year if at least the interest isn't paid. At the very least the tax free death benefit for your family is reduced by the amount of the loan or the cash withdrawal. This could also effect your premium payments. Your much better off doing a home equity loan and in most cases that interest is tax deductible.
Another option is the 0% offer credit cards will give good customers. For a small fee of 4% or so I can take a cash advance interest free for up to 18 months in some cases. I did this to help with a BHE straight grip 32 inch 20 a couple of years ago and on the recent AHE 20.

[Dean Romig]

In my case.... no mortgage, multiple life ins policies, easy decision.... I cashed out of one policy completely.





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[Joe Graziano]

I really, really love side by sides, but I can’t imagine explaining a home equity loan to my wife to buy a shotgun. Go get it, gents! Someone will wind up with that amazing gun.

[Bill Murphy]

Tom Sellick promotes home equity loans. We could call him for advice, except he may be the guy who outbids you. I guess I wouldn't trust his advice.

[John Dallas]

Selleck is a Colt 1911 collector

[Rich Anderson]

Selleck promotes reverse mortgages not the same as an equity loan.

[edgarspencer]

That gun won’t letter either. I wish those records were available.

While it is in the 4000+ gun gap in the records (and I think a lot of us know who 'might' have that book), I don't see a thing to suggest it isn't real.

[Reggie Bishop]

While it is in the 4000+ gun gap in the records (and I think a lot of know who 'might' have that book), I don't see a thing to suggest it isn't real.


Agreed Edgar!

[Jeff Kuss]

I would guess it to be another California Duck gun.

[Dave Noreen]

Back in the early 1970s I got a signature loan from North Island FCU to buy my Model 12 28-gauge Skeet Gun. In those days all my worldly possessions fit in my 1970 El Camino.

[Stan Hillis]

Seriously guys, that's what SSI is for, isn't it? Builds up pretty quickly if you designate it for your gun use and leave it alone for awhile.

SRH

[Steve Cambria]

Tom Sellick promotes home equity loans. We could call him for advice, except he may be the guy who outbids you. I guess I wouldn't trust his advice.

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[Jerry VanHorn]

Selleck also like s Winchester levers. Brian Board did some work for him a couple years ago..and he had Brian deliver them to Calif. and meet with him and his brother...

[Reggie Bishop]

55,000.00 + 20%= 66,000

[Jim Thynne]

I hope this went to a good home, I didn't see it but it was "i am certain" 100% correct! Someone got a great deal!

[Craig Larter]

$55K plus the buyers premium. Rare and a highly sought after configuration 20ga and 32" barrels.

[Jim Thynne]

Woulda shoulda coulda what a beautiful AAHE

[Gary Carmichael Sr]

A few years ago that gun would have brought close to a hundred grand, This soft market is a good time to buy will prices ever rebound? only time will tell, meantime grab on to some good buys, Gary

[David Gehman]

A few years ago that gun would have brought close to a hundred grand, This soft market is a good time to buy will prices ever rebound? only time will tell, meantime grab on to some good buys, Gary

I think the soft market is here to stay, us old coots are dyin off.

[John Dallas]

Gary, I'm afraid you're whistling past the graveyard

[Bill Murphy]

Some of our posters, supposedly educated in Parker records, don't understand that provenance isn't available on this gun, even if missing records were recovered. Order books ended at about serial number 185,000 range. Don't blame missing or stolen books on the missing records on this gun. We will never know the provenance of this gun unless someone in its previous life comes forward.

[Patrick Lien]

A few years ago that gun would have brought close to a hundred grand, This soft market is a good time to buy will prices ever rebound? only time will tell, meantime grab on to some good buys, Gary

I very much disagree, The gun sold for exactly what it was worth +- 20% vig and I think the buyer and seller are probably happy with the results. If you have real sale results to compare for grade 7 20ga guns with 32" barrels for the past 5-100 years selling for 100k please post them. I would really like to see the facts that call this gun 100k gun.

PML

[Reggie Bishop]

I think considering the condition of the gun it brought a fair price. No case colors, white line pad, issues with the stock finish and probably re-blued barrels all were considerable deductions on my tally sheet.

[Dean Romig]

I very much disagree, The gun sold for exactly what it was worth +- 20% vig and I think the buyer and seller are probably happy with the results. If you have real sale results to compare for grade 7 20ga guns with 32" barrels for the past 5-100 years selling for 100k please post them. I would really like to see the facts that call this gun 100k gun.

PML

I do know of one that sold privately in that price range “close to a hundred grand”, “+- 20%” about 8 or 9 years ago. I must admit that I don’t understand what you mean by “vig” though.
It was all original and in high condition but I don’t remember if it had 30” barrels or 32”.

Unfortunately I’m not at liberty to divulge names or serial number of the gun.. so it’s just another case of “somebody told me blah, blah, blah...





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[Frank Srebro]

…… I must admit that I don’t understand what you mean by “vig” though..

Vig is the shortened version of "vigorish" = a term used for a premium paid over the selling price. Also known as the juice. Vig is also used in other contexts besides gun auctions.

[Dean Romig]

Thanks Frank. So early in the day and I’ve learned something new already!





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[Josh Loewensteiner]

I think Patrick (PML) hit the nail on the head here. A beautiful and rare gun.

[Dean Romig]

Right... in today’s market.





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[edgarspencer]

Josh, ever the statesman, you might comment on some of the $100K+ Parkers sold in years past by James Julia. I think Patrick's response, although a bit acerbic, could be said at anytime, simply because of the nature of auctions.
I remember guns from past auctions, such as the Lumber Baron's gun, which went for huge money, but it didn't impress me any more than this gun.
I have to side with Gary in as much as I think this gun, white line or no white line, would have probably commanded a bit more a few years ago.
I never had any aspirations of owning that gun, but I appreciate being able to see the many quality pictures posted by the auctioneer. Maybe it's post Super Bowl nasties, but I don't get why people waste time to post in attack mode.

[John Dallas]

Didn't Bill Jaqua buy the "Little Persuader" 28 gauge for something over $100K about 30-35 years ago, and sell it very quickly thereafter?

[Jim Thynne]

I just had this gun in my hands, it is as right as rain.I cannot say how the owner got the information, but the missing books said it is what it is.