8 ga loads

[charlie cleveland]

was looking thru some of myammo collection found a few 8 ga brass hulls that i liked the looks of...one of them is a parker brothers and all of them are 3 1/4 inch and in good to new shape...will load them with smokeless powder blue dot is what i will use and no 7 1/2 lead shot and no 6 lead....will try them out on some new dr pepper cans i have saved up................ i was looking at a powder can which has several loads for shotguns on it..it has loads for even the 8 ga...it is the heavist smokeless powder load for the 8 ga that i have seen thus far that i have seen posted for smokeless load in the 8 ga.....the powder can is a new schultze...8 ga 51/2 to 61/2 drams or 66 to78 grains.... 10 ga ga 3 1/2 to 4 1/2 drams or 42 to 54 grains...12 ga 2 3/4 to 3 1/2 drams 33 to 42 grains......16 ga 2 1/2 drams or30 grains......20 ga 2 drams or 24 grains..... powder can is as old as our parkers over 100 years plus.... thought this was interesting....charlie

[charlie cleveland]

thought this of interest also... the heavist black powder charge for the 8 ga that i have seen calls for 7 drams of black powder...i have a few 8 gauge remington loaded shells that the top wad says 7 drams of black powder and 2 1/4 ounce of lead shot...this has to be a real bad on the shoulder and stock.... charlie

[wayne goerres]

I have some 9 shot. Might make a neat load.

[Paul Harm]

I use to load 4 oz of shot and 400 grs of 1f in a 8ga O/U muzzleloader I made. Think I was way over loaded.

[charlie cleveland]

paul i would like to have seen you shooting that big gun...did you ever get to shoot a turkey with it....sounds like that gun was a true 100 yard gun...the biggest load i have ever shot in my 8 ga was 57 grains of bluedot powder and 3 ounces of bb lead shot..i also shot this same load thru my ithaca 10 ga magnum...the 8 pattered pretty good but the 10 ga pattern was no good....the 57 grain of bluedot and 3 ounce of lead shot was a tested load...not a load i would recommend...charlie

[charlie cleveland]

today i was looking at the 8 gs stuff i have i refound a roll crimper for the 8 ga that i got some where in my travels...i used a black remington plastic hull loaded it with 45 grains bluedot powder then put 2 1/8 inch thick over powder wad then a remington s p 8 wad then 2 1/2 ounces of no 6 lead shot then i split one of the over powder wads and put it over the shot then i roll crimped it with the old hand cranked crimper....was the best looking roll crimp i have ever done...this is the only 8 gauge hand crimper i have ever seen any body else got one of these kind of hand rolled crimpers...i have watched ebay for a long time but have never seen one on there...you will see them aplenty in 12 ga and some in 16 20 and very few in 410...i do all my roll crimping in 8 ga with one i bought from precision reloading it works in a drill does a good job but not as good as this old hand roller...i also did 2 brass shells today loaded them with bluedot to...used hot glue gun to hold the wads with...it was raining here today so it will be tommorrow before i get to shoot them and see how every thing goes hope fully bang...

[Milton C Starr]

I use to load 4 oz of shot and 400 grs of 1f in a 8ga O/U muzzleloader I made. Think I was way over loaded.

Theres a fellow who built himself a 20mm muzzleloader which is about a 8bore
20mm is .825 , he proof tested with 1000grs of 1F :shock: the twist rate on them is for a 1760gr slug or around that . that works out to 1/4lb or the same weight as a 4 gauge/bore round ball .

Charlie have you ever loaded blackhorn 209 ? Its supposedly pretty clean and doesnt really foul like BP or the other substitutes on the market .

[Milton C Starr]

I have some 9 shot. Might make a neat load.

#9 makes a pretty good quail load , we normally used #7s on the plantation but somehow a few boxes of #9s got mixed into the case . After the guys who opted to try the 9s bags started filling faster than the guys shooting the 7s . They started to argue who was going to get the remaining boxes of #9s haha .

[charlie cleveland]

i have never used no 9 shot but then again its just because i never had a box of them... i shot the 8 gaue brass loads a few minutes ago they fired ok the secret to brass hulls and smokeless powder is to push on the wadding with pressure and use hot glue gun and glue them while holding pressure on the top wad i used an ordanary wood pencil to push with..2 of the brass hulls were winchester 8 ga hulls i used the large pistol primer in them...the other 2 hulls were brass also but had parker brothers on them they were new hulls they used 209 primers in them...did not pattern them....just shot across yard...no dr pepper can was hurt...ha charlie

[Milton C Starr]

i have never used no 9 shot but then again its just because i never had a box of them... i shot the 8 gaue brass loads a few minutes ago they fired ok the secret to brass hulls and smokeless powder is to push on the wadding with pressure and use hot glue gun and glue them while holding pressure on the top wad i used an ordanary wood pencil to push with..2 of the brass hulls were winchester 8 ga hulls i used the large pistol primer in them...the other 2 hulls were brass also but had parker brothers on them they were new hulls they used 209 primers in them...did not pattern them....just shot across yard...no dr pepper can was hurt...ha charlie

some short 8 ga loads with #9s would make a great quail gun , I could see you doing that haha .

Ive read that also about using a hot glue gun , in his video Larry Potterfield used something called water glass to glue his into place .

Charlie have you watched this video , they talk about how hunting was done with the 10,8, & 4 bores . I found it really interesting where he mentions if you owned one of these guns then your children (which they had alot of back in those days) had better diets and more protein than other families . So they would be healthier .

Shooting them on the deck as he calls it would probably be considered unsportsmanlike these days haha .

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OLVJo6CDGmM&t=1895s

[charlie cleveland]

i figure as fast as them quail fly by the time you got that 14 lb 8 auge lifted up them birds would be outa shooting range...never have watched that video of midways will have to look into it... yep shooting them birds on the ground was a no no in my pappys hunting days...charlie

[Milton C Starr]

i figure as fast as them quail fly by the time you got that 14 lb 8 auge lifted up them birds would be outa shooting range...never have watched that video of midways will have to look into it... yep shooting them birds on the ground was a no no in my pappys hunting days...charlie

Heres the video the water glass is at the 4:40 mark
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VI47bl2h0cU

Ive never seen or heard of shooting conveys on the ground either but he says it was for when you needed to kill 30 bird to feed a family of 9 . A 4 bore on small birds seems extreme even by my standards :rotf:. I used to use 2 1/4 loads of #4s in my 10 ga 3.5"s for squirrels at probably 60 yards or so . Never did much meat damage as theyd only have 2 or 3 hits in the head .

My neighbor who lived about half a mile down the road asked me the following day what the * I was shooting . When I told him he said it sounded like thunder haha .

We used to have a real problem with squirrels chewing holes in our flight pens on the quail farm . I seen him take his dads old browning sweet 16 and go and kill every one he came across he was fed up with them . I always loved seeing them purple hulls when I was a kid .

I wish I could find the picture of that reloading press that was on GI awhile back it was setup for 8 ga , had the resizer and all with it looked pretty good .

[charlie cleveland]

wish you had got that reloader...i know they used the mec 600 10 ga reloader for a platform and made a 8 ga reloader out of it...but i hear it was a pretty costly affair...i get by with a homemade rezizer and ahand press and a old lee 10 ga hand reloader...i then use the precision roll crimper or the hand crimper....on that water solution for the top of the over shot card you cannot hold pressure on the wad while it set up..it takes a few hours to set up were as the hot glue only takes a few moments to set up...thus wad has some pressure on it so it goes bang better on the brass hulls....charlie

[Milton C Starr]

wish you had got that reloader...i know they used the mec 600 10 ga reloader for a platform and made a 8 ga reloader out of it...but i hear it was a pretty costly affair...i get by with a homemade rezizer and ahand press and a old lee 10 ga hand reloader...i then use the precision roll crimper or the hand crimper....on that water solution for the top of the over shot card you cannot hold pressure on the wad while it set up..it takes a few hours to set up were as the hot glue only takes a few moments to set up...thus wad has some pressure on it so it goes bang better on the brass hulls....charlie

The reloader was actual a PGCA members I was able to find the page for it .
Looked like a pretty clean setup .

Im curious to see when RST releases their 8 ga loads how they resize the hulls .
Usually their are marks on the hulls after resizing . The 8 ga loader i seen the hulls didnt have any resizing marks on them they looked clean and neat .

[charlie cleveland]

my resizer i havr now leaves no marks its clean and factory looking...i have to give credit to wayne gorez for giveing me the drawings and measement for how to make the resizer...its a one step operation..put it in the dye put it under the press pull the handle turn dye over and press it out very simple....the rezizer looks like a wrist pin out of a big truck engine...simple to use...charlie