View Full Version : Who is hunting with 16 gauge???
Kenny Graft
11-15-2019, 05:14 PM
Seems like I'm hearing, reading about more hunters shooting 16 gauge SXS guns for upland gunning in the now times. Several of the guys I rub shoulders with hunt 16-s for upland. Top choices are Fox, O-frame, one frame Parkers, Ithica and several other makers too. Six to six and one half lbs seems the norm. I shoot 16-s for all my upland gunning. Two Parkers and a Fox will be going to Kansas on the 29th for a week of wild roosters and quail. Shot sizes that I will use are number 4,5 and 6 all field loads and some HV shells too. The number six loads will be for quail. Quail numbers are way up this year so we may be hunting them intensely. The rooster for-cast was not as good as they had lots of rain for the whole nesting season...)-:
Rick Losey
11-15-2019, 05:23 PM
most of my favorite grouse guns are 16s, Parkers, Foxes or JP Sauer
never had an Ithica :banghead: nor an Ithaca 16
but, unfortunately - they see little use with the lack of grouse around here. I had planned to take the old setter out for what will likely be his last hunt after duck ended last weekend (woodcock ended here yesterday) but mother nature decided we should give winter an early try and i did not want him to struggle in this stuff
Garth Gustafson
11-15-2019, 05:54 PM
Both my Parkers are 16ga, 28” barrels, 0 frame and most of my hunting these days is for released pheasants. I’ve always used #6. I agree Kenny, it’s the best all round gauge for upland birds.
Bill Davis
11-15-2019, 06:06 PM
A 1935 double trigger straight grip Model 21 with 28” barrels bored cylinder and modified. No better upland gun ever. It’s been all over the mid-Atlantic states, Maine, Montana, Uruguay and Argentina. A buttplate gun with factory 14 3/4 inch LOP. Perfect for my 6’4” frame. It’s never let me down!
Daniel Carter
11-15-2019, 06:12 PM
Sterlingworth and A grade Fox 16 for grouse and woodcock. Both are open choked and do the job well when I do mine. They are both 5 - 8 so are a pleasure to carry all day and pleasant to look at.
Dave Noreen
11-15-2019, 06:25 PM
Over the years I've done a lot of hunting with 16-gauge guns. When I still lived in Virginia I shot a lot of Doves with a 16-gauge KE-Grade Remington --
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On that same farm I had a great pass where this 32-inch barrel A-Grade Ansley H. Fox was quite the performer --
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While I very seldom hunt with a pump or autoloader, one day I took out a 1938 vintage Remington Sportsman 16-gauge. The first Rooster up I missed cleanly three shots. Later that day Skitso went on point right at the edge of a bluff. Three Roosters took off into clear blue sky 60 or 70 feet above a stubble field, and I shot the only triple of my life.
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Late years my go to gun when I need to used non-toxic shells when upland hunting on public land, my RBL-16 gets the nod --
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I don't own a Parker Bros. 16-gauge. Likewise, I don't own a late Remington Parker Gun. A 16-gauge with open choke barrels in the 241xxx/242xxx range could find a space in my gun room!!
Dean H Hanson
11-15-2019, 06:42 PM
I like my 1 frame and 0 frame VH's for grouse. Both equally effective...
George Davis
11-15-2019, 07:34 PM
all of my quail hunting is done with 16 gauge side X sides.
Matt Buckley
11-15-2019, 07:41 PM
16's are my hands down favorite pheasant guns. I own several but I love the Philadelphia Sterlingworths for carrying.
James L. Martin
11-15-2019, 07:49 PM
For 20 years most of my grouse hunting was with a host of 16ga s/s and a Merkel O/U which I still have it has 29 1/4 " barrel ,solid rib and double triggers. A 16ga 0 frame has been on my want list for a while. A light 16 is the ultimate Grouse gun. Trouble is I am hooked on 20ga Parkers and 20ga Win. 21's.
Garry L Gordon
11-15-2019, 08:23 PM
I admit that I'm addicted to 16s and they are my gauge of choice for all upland birds.
A smattering of my addiction. All used on wild birds with great results:
1. Cogswell and Harrison back action 30 inch Damascus barreled gun that weighs under 6 lbs.
2. GH Damascus O frame. 6 lbs. 3 oz with original cylinder/modified chokes.
3. CSMC XE with 29" barrels that weighs 5 lbs. 13 oz.
4. AyA No. 2. 6 lbs. 8 oz. Great on wild pheasants with heavier loads.
5. AH grade with 28 inch barrels. A No. 1 frame gun that weighs 6 lbs. 3 oz.
Ed Norman
11-15-2019, 08:25 PM
Kenny,
A couple of months ago I got my first parker a vh 16 gauge on a 1 frame (I think) with 26" barrels, improved cylinder and improved modified. I also recently purchased a fox 16 gauge sterlingworth with 28" barrels and improved cylinder and modified. Today we went to a pheasant farm and I was 5 for 5 on pheasants with the fox. My parker has all been refinished, the safety on it is the nicest safety I have ever had on a gun. I have taken grouse and woodcock with the parker this hunting season. The fox is getting the nod because its more of a shooter than the parker which seems almost to nice to drag through the woods. I am very happy with both 16 gauge guns, I may be selling a 20 gauge beretta over/under soon I am so happy with the side by sides. This was my first woodcock taken with the fox. I am looking for a parker picture to upload too, that whole gun was completely redone, it looks almost new.
Garry L Gordon
11-15-2019, 08:27 PM
Ooops, I almost forgot my "new" DH 1 frame 26 inch barreled grouse gun.
Mills Morrison
11-15-2019, 09:01 PM
I love 16s
Bruce Day
11-15-2019, 09:15 PM
Sage grouse with 16 ga
Jeff Elder
11-15-2019, 09:16 PM
I hunt ducks everyday with my 16 DHE.
Randy G Roberts
11-15-2019, 09:17 PM
I admit that I'm addicted to 16s and they are my gauge of choice for all upland birds.
A smattering of my addiction. All used on wild birds with great results:
1. Cogswell and Harrison back action 30 inch Damascus barreled gun that weighs under 6 lbs.
2. GH Damascus O frame. 6 lbs. 3 oz with original cylinder/modified chokes.
3. CSMC XE with 29" barrels that weighs 5 lbs. 13 oz.
4. AyA No. 2. 6 lbs. 8 oz. Great on wild pheasants with heavier loads.
5. AH grade with 28 inch barrels. A No. 1 frame gun that weighs 6 lbs. 3 oz.
Nice Garry, an AH 1 frame 16 with 28" barrels at such a light weight. The stuff that dreams are made of, sweet ! My go to pheasant crusher is a VHE 16 with 32" barrels, did you expect anything less:) It's got a lot of wear but it's a solid gun mechanically with a lot of choke and I shoot it well most days. At 6-11 it's heavy by most folks standards but I don't mind it and our pheasant/sharpie hunts are not usually grinding marathons. I have only 2 other 16's and both are DHE's with 32" barrels. One on a 1 frame and the other a 1 1/2 frame which is over 7 pounds and a delight on the clays course. Happy hunting all !!
CraigThompson
11-15-2019, 11:03 PM
GH 1 frame 27” , VH 1 frame 28” , VH 0 frame 26” , Belgium 30” guild gun , three drilling’s all are 16’s . Wanna add another VH 16 with 30” F&F barrels , a DH 16 and perhaps a GH 0 frame 16 . The GH 27@ had an inch relieved from the muzzle many moons ago and that one is pure poison with my handloaded#1 buck and home cast Handloaded slugs .
Richard Flanders
11-15-2019, 11:14 PM
I'm not really an avid 16ga fan but my 24" open-choked PHE16 with light small shot loads is the best woodcock and ruffie over pointing dogs in hvy cover gun I've ever used.
Timothy Salgado
11-15-2019, 11:50 PM
The 16 gauge has become my main hunting gun, mainly a Browning O/U, although my grandson uses it when he joins me. On Monday and today I took two nice rooster pheasants with my 16, using Kent Bismuth Upland ammunition and the shells worked well, I’m hoping to use them on some puddle ducks in the upcoming weeks when the second half of our duck season opens.
Reggie Bishop
11-16-2019, 05:55 AM
I like 16s too! I only have one, DHE 16 transitional gun, 30" vent rib. I wouldn't call it an upland gun but I expect it would be nice on a sporting clays course or dove field or maybe even a duck blind.
Bob Jurewicz
11-16-2019, 07:44 AM
I love the 16! I don't discriminate I shoot: Parker, Fox, Ithaca, RBL and AYA.
This is my favorite little VH 0 Frame factory 28" Cyl/Mod.
Bob Jurewicz
Chad Hefflinger
11-16-2019, 08:02 AM
I am also a big fan of the 16. I hunt and shoot with 2 Trojan guns, one completely original and in pretty good shape, the other was completely redone. A VHE skeet gun, a PH with 32” barrels and lovely 0 frame GH w/ 28” barrels. A 20 gauge VHE gets thrown in the mix also, I really like a 0 frame gun for carrying in the grouse/woodcock woods.
Jay Gardner
11-16-2019, 08:49 AM
Pretty much all of my grouse hunting is with a 16ga. DH (circa 1894). Why? Romance, history, lore, mystique. 16’s seems right for old upland guns. The first shotgun that I ever covered was a used 16ga M12 in the rack at the local sporting good store when I was 15. (I now have one in my safe, just because). I don’t think there is any technical, performance-related reason to shoot a 16, but an old Parker in 16 just seems right.
Jerry VanHorn
11-16-2019, 09:10 AM
I've managed to put together a few 16's..3 VH O frames. Straight and Pistol. 2 GH O frames..Straight and pistol..Top lever Hammer with cut frame....and a nice Trojan. I have more 16s than the number of quail that I've seen on my farm this year..But...just in case..I won't turn down another !
Donald McQuade
11-16-2019, 09:12 AM
I agree with Setter Man. My go to grouse/woodcock gun is a 16ga DH of 1902 vintage. It is an O frame with 26' barrels choked SK and Lt Mod with double triggers. I figure who ever ordered this gun new what he was about when it came to upland hunting in New England. I do have a Fox A grade 16 that is my early season gun when the leaves are thick. It has 26" barrels, cut from 28" by a previous owner, with the resulting chokes of Cyc and Sk. With a weight of 6Lbs it is a joy to carry.
Paul Ehlers
11-16-2019, 10:37 AM
I've said for years now that if for some reason I could only have one shotgun, it would be a sixteen gauge!!
Without a doubt, The 16 is my favorite gauge!!!!!!
Dennis E. Jones
11-16-2019, 11:34 AM
I too love the 16. I must because I have a few of them but nary a one is a Parker. I've looked for a Parker 16 G grade or higher for years but when I had the money I couldn't find the gun and of course when I found the gun no money. Here's my well used Remington 1894 with a couple of timber chickens.
Rich Anderson
11-16-2019, 11:51 AM
I'd hate to admit how many 16's I have but it's a favorite for both clays and game. My go to sporting clays gun is The Hollywood gun a two barrel set straight grip with all the options. Upland guns used this year included a Fox Sterlingworth, Purdey, LeFever Optimus, GHE, VHE. I didn't hunt with more of them than I did use:banghead: A hammer gun will definitely go to Georgia quail hunting.
Joe Graziano
11-16-2019, 12:37 PM
All my upland hunting is now with a 16 ga Cogswell and Harrison hammerless with 28 in barrels, choked M/F. Or, a 16 ga Jules Pierre Belgian hammer gun with 30 in barrels, choked IC/F. Both are light, pleasant to carry and hit hard with the appropriate 2 1/2 in RST loads.
Bill Murphy
11-16-2019, 05:35 PM
I have a bunch of 16s, but my favorites are a three barrel GHE composed set, original 28" Damascus, the second set 26" Parker Special Steel, the third set being a 32" 20 gauge Vulcan Steel, and a three barrel factory GHE Damascus set, 30", 28", and 24", each with its own forend. The factory gun was purchased as a scarce 24" gun at a local show. A year later, the seller told me he had discovered two more sets of barrels for the gun I had purchased. "Would I be interested in purchasing the two additional barrel sets?" Other 16s are a DH 28" Titanic #1 frame, a DHE #1 frame Damascus, cut to a handy 24", and a high condition 32" VHE, the last two purchased on this forum. I guess its about time I went shopping.
Craig Larter
11-16-2019, 06:34 PM
I'm a complete newbie to 16ga. The last one I shot was my dad's browning pre war auto 55 years ago.
Anyhow I bought a DHE 16/28 from a member. In a week I plan to give it a try on preserve pheasants with my son and our three labs. Hopefully I can get back to SD and give it a go on wild pheasants.
davidboyles
11-16-2019, 06:41 PM
Counting my Dads Sweet Sixteen Browning A5 my mother and I got him many years ago for $265 at Osmans Spt Goods Houston. I own 8 including another DHE on the way. VHE 30", GH 26" Damascus , DHE 30",DHE 28"Damascus ,Win Model 21 Skeet Grade 28", Belgium Deforney SLE. I shoot them all and never get tired of the 16 which is what I started with when I was 10. Glad it is still around and being enjoyed!!
Garry L Gordon
11-16-2019, 07:29 PM
I love the 16! I don't discriminate I shoot: Parker, Fox, Ithaca, RBL and AYA.
This is my favorite little VH 0 Frame factory 28" Cyl/Mod.
Bob Jurewicz
Bob, that's a beauty!
edgarspencer
11-17-2019, 07:16 AM
Back when 20 boxes made a case, my dad bought a case of Remington 16ga. field loads, fearing it was destined for the history books. That was back in the early ‘80s. I think there’s still 17-18 boxes.
Ed Norman
11-17-2019, 08:48 AM
Back when 20 boxes made a case, my dad bought a case of Remington 16ga. field loads, fearing it was destined for the history books. That was back in the early ‘80s. I think there’s still 17-18 boxes.
I have a question, I have a few partial boxes of 20 gauge shells I had from back in the 70's, when I quit hunting, I did not even think to try shooting them because of their age. I purchased new shells a couple of years ago when I started hunting again. Would those 40 plus year old shells still be ok to shoot?
Bill Murphy
11-17-2019, 08:54 AM
I forgot to mention a pair of 0 frame hammer guns, one a Grade 2 30" gun and another, a Grade 2 project gun waiting for barrels. This one is the last graded hammer gun made by Parker Brothers and the last 16 gauge hammer gun. I bought this beauty in a box of parts with ruined barrels. I have a couple of sets of barrels for it, but I never seem to get around to fitting them.
Ronald Scott
11-17-2019, 08:56 AM
I'm late to the game -- bought me first 16 this year. A 0 frame GH 28" damascus barrel IC / Full. Use 1 oz hand loaded 2.5" shells--everything I've hit so far has been bagged (half dozzen pheasants and a woodcock). It carries easily, comes up quickly, and fits me well. It's a great upland game gun.
Alfred Greeson
11-17-2019, 09:43 AM
Still looking for my GH 16 0 frame. Met a little lady at a show outside of D.C. carrying a leg of mutton case and people were following her around. I asked if she needed help and she said yes, she did not know about guns and people were wanting to buy her gun but she didn't really want to sell it. I opened the case and out came a beautiful GHE 0 frame 16. I took her over to a dealer from N.C. who always had Parkers and he told her what it was and what it was worth. She smiled and said she thought she would keep it and give it to her son, to my knowledge he still is the proud owner and what I got out of it was this story and a quest to find one like it. Still looking.....
Ed Norman
11-17-2019, 09:59 AM
Alfred Greeson,
Good for you helping that lady out like you did. I will send you a pm if I locate one for you.
edgarspencer
11-17-2019, 10:23 AM
I have a question, I have a few partial boxes of 20 gauge shells I had from back in the 70's, when I quit hunting, I did not even think to try shooting them because of their age. I purchased new shells a couple of years ago when I started hunting again. Would those 40 plus year old shells still be ok to shoot?
Good question, ED. I'm sure, somewhere, someone has studied the effect age has on powders, in loaded ammunition. I certainly know, that some powders age in their containers. I know that 7625, no longer available, stinks like hell when it's old.
I won't tell you to take out your best gun and try them out, but I have never had any issue shooting older shells. I load 12, 16 and 20, so never am short on ammunition.
I quit skeet shooting back in the '80s, and had 50+ boxes of reloaded AA 20ga. It was at least 20 years old when we shot it all up, up at the farm, informally shooting clays.
Richard Flanders
11-17-2019, 10:39 AM
I have only had one batch of old shells that looked ok but didn't shoot just fine. It was very old paper short 10ga that got the wad and shot out the barrels but not by much. I shot a few and tossed the rest out of fear of a stuck wad ruining my day.
Ed Norman
11-17-2019, 11:51 AM
Thanks guys,
All of the shells are plastic, I purchased a beretta over under 20 gauge a couple years ago to start hunting with. Its the only 20 gauge I have, so thats why I was being cautious. Now I seem to have caught some kind of "bug" or maybe flu like symptoms ever since I purchased my first side by side shotgun:) I kind of start feeling a little "light headed" when I pick one up now, not sure exactly whats happening. My wife just says you should treat yourself after all these years. So I keep looking to treat myself:)
Phil Yearout
11-17-2019, 01:15 PM
I own three 20ga guns, three 12ga (counting my SBT), one .410, and five 16ga's. Except for when I go to the trap range it's very rare that anything but a 16 goes along. Actually I'm down to four 16's as I just gave my father's Savage 775a to my nephew.
Garry L Gordon
11-17-2019, 03:27 PM
My wife just says you should treat yourself after all these years. )
When a woman says this, marry her...oh, wait, you already did that...:rotf:
Ed Norman
11-17-2019, 03:43 PM
Garry,
The breeder of my brittany cash lives about a mile from me, he said to me the other day "if I had a wife that got up every morning and ran my bird dog I would probably die of a heart attack" I just smiled and said there is a reason why she does this. Then I wouldn't say anything else, its driving him crazy:) Then recently I got her an all wheel drive car for these lovely winters we have up here. (she had a front wheel drive car) my buddy said I would buy my wife a new car every year if she would run my dog every day. He just got back from Iowa where he was pheasant hunting. This thread is interesting about 16 gauges, on a pheasant farm around here my 16 gauge is wonderful with the light r.s.t. shells. I wonder if I might be under gunned if I ever go out west for pheasants with my older fox or parker.
Garry L Gordon
11-17-2019, 05:49 PM
Garry,
The breeder of my brittany cash lives about a mile from me, he said to me the other day "if I had a wife that got up every morning and ran my bird dog I would probably die of a heart attack" I just smiled and said there is a reason why she does this. Then I wouldn't say anything else, its driving him crazy:) Then recently I got her an all wheel drive car for these lovely winters we have up here. (she had a front wheel drive car) my buddy said I would buy my wife a new car every year if she would run my dog every day. He just got back from Iowa where he was pheasant hunting. This thread is interesting about 16 gauges, on a pheasant farm around here my 16 gauge is wonderful with the light r.s.t. shells. I wonder if I might be under gunned if I ever go out west for pheasants with my older fox or parker.
Ed, My experience with pheasants and 16s is long, and I can tell you that the gauge will consistently take these wild, tough birds. However, as is the case with everything, the devil is in the details. Knowing your chokes and their patterns, exercising restraint to not shoot beyond those patterns, and, at least for me, having a dog that can give you a makable chance (and find one you don't center) are what make 16s good for pheasants. If I go specifically after pheasants, I take one of my heavier 16s. If I'm shooting one of my recently made guns that will handle loads heavier than 1 oz., I might carry some 1 1/8 oz. loads for the left barrel, but more often than not, I just switch to #6 shot. When you get someplace where there is the potential to get into lots of wild pheasants, you need to be disciplined enough to pick your shots. It's not easy when multiple roosters get up and your heart is in your throat, but, heck, that's what it's all about.
PS I think I've posted this to you before, but in case not...your wife is a definite "keeper!" :bowdown:
edgarspencer
11-17-2019, 06:16 PM
My daughter is now a 16ga. addict. She took my 30" DHE to South Dakota and has been having a ball, showing those O/U guys what a SxS can do, in a girls hands, no less.
Mills Morrison
11-17-2019, 06:29 PM
That is awesome!
Ed Norman
11-17-2019, 06:44 PM
thanks edgar and garry,
What a great picture Edgar of your daughter, I bet you are a proud papa. I am trying to "learn on the fly" after my 40 year layoff from hunting. I really want to take the 2 guys that have helped me with our brittany so much out there for a hunt someday. Hap is 73 or 74 and Fred is 68. Hap is a left handed shooter and I am hoping to get him a gun where the stock can be bent to fit him better. I know he has several guns, so I was going to concentrate on one he can use around here on grouse and woodcock. I just really wanted to take an old side by side for the nostalgia and all the good memories growing up hunting out west. Garry, you explained everything very well, I went the other day with Fred who has one of his brittanies recovering from a leg injury. He kept him on a lead and let him point a couple of pheasants at a farm we often go to. I was 5 for 5 with a fox 16 gauge and Fred told me later that I was waiting and not rushing my shot like I did the first year hunting with him. I wanted to get this planned soon as the years are catching up on all of us. Hap just got back from Iowa tonight, so I will get filled in on his hunt out there. I will try to post a picture of his Iowa hunt if I can figure it out. Thanks again for all the good input in here everyone.
CraigThompson
11-17-2019, 07:35 PM
When a woman says this, marry her...oh, wait, you already did that...:rotf:
My boss can’t say a whole lot at the moment since she’s still on the other side of the world . But hopefully she’ll be here for good this time next year . So my gun buying situation could change :eek::rotf:
Mills Morrison
11-17-2019, 07:42 PM
I'm on a tight leash but still manage a few here and there.
The 16 hammer gun was worth the grief that came along with it
edgarspencer
11-17-2019, 09:44 PM
I love this picture. I was going to say I love this shot but the intended pun was too much. Zoom in and you can see the shot stream.
roger mcmanimon
11-17-2019, 10:18 PM
I really like 16's but for me the magic is in the light weight guns, 5 3/4 to 6 1/2 pounds is the sweet spot for me. I'd rather not have to carry anything heavier .
I have more 16's than any other gauge but do like to get the 20's out on occasion too.
Patrick Butler
11-18-2019, 12:21 AM
My first shotgun was a 16. A Remington, 16 gauge, with a second set of Mod. barrels. It worked well, as a slop tolerance auto should, but it did the job, hunting most every game bird.
I profess to little hunting experience, born in California in 1945. I used my grandfather's 1906 Winchester, 12 gauge, stainless, 8K range, for everything. It worked.
After two friends turned me onto SXS, specifically, Parkers, I used 12's for the big stuff and 20's for all else. I would love to hunt quail with a Parker 28, but did not want make that investment for a DHE + shooter. I have/ do own(ed) a few high grade Parkers, but just for investment.
Back to the subject, if you had to have one Parker/ SBS, it would be a 16.
Patrick
Ed Norman
11-18-2019, 05:54 AM
I love this picture. I was going to say I love this shot but the intended pun was too much. Zoom in and you can see the shot stream.
Edgar,
What a great picture, and 3 pheasants up to boot. Your daughter is the one that has a charter fishing business? I think I read that somewhere. That picture is a wallhanger:)
Ed Norman
11-18-2019, 06:31 AM
I really like 16's but for me the magic is in the light weight guns, 5 3/4 to 6 1/2 pounds is the sweet spot for me. I'd rather not have to carry anything heavier .
I have more 16's than any other gauge but do like to get the 20's out on occasion too.
Romac,
Are you the same Romac thats in the fox forum? Your collection of guns is just so impressive. So are the pictures you post over there.
Stan Hillis
11-18-2019, 08:39 PM
I regularly hunt with .410, 28, 20, 16 and 12 gauges. But, a great deal of my hunting is dove shooting and I love a 16 for that in the late season....... always with 1 oz. of shot. We shoot crows too, when the pecans are ripe, and I have used heavier 1 1/8 oz. loads in my 16s for them with great success.
SRH
Mike Koneski
11-19-2019, 06:32 PM
I hunt with a lot of different gauges but my main go to for birds is the 16g Parker or Lefever, all depends on what strikes my fancy on any given day. :)
Stan, we went crow hunting last Friday and took 27 of them. Sent quite a few away missing some feathers. Used the Browning BSS with Fiocchi Super Crushers 1 oz 7 1/2 at 1350 FPS. A bit snotty for the "vintage guns".
Mike Koneski
11-19-2019, 06:37 PM
I'm on a tight leash but still manage a few here and there.
The 16 hammer gun was worth the grief that came along with it
YEAH, RIIIIIIGHT!!!!!!!!!! :rotf::whistle::bowdown:
Mills Morrison
11-19-2019, 07:10 PM
Mike knows me well!
Stan Hillis
11-19-2019, 07:53 PM
Mike, two or three of us will get as many as 110 - 120 crows by 9:30 a.m. on a good morning, in a pecan orchard. Big fun. I love tight choked doubles and no. 6s, with a load of 4s in the left barrel for the long ones. I've killed lots with 7 1/2s, but have learned that for the long ones the bigger shot is the deal.
Best, SRH
Dean Romig
11-19-2019, 07:58 PM
I hunt with several sixteens - a T/A Grade 1 with 26” Laminated Steel barrels; a Lifter Grade 3 with 27” Parker-made Laminated Steel barrels; a GHE with 26” Damascus Steel barrels; a GH with 26” Damascus Steel barrels; a DHE with 26” Titanic Steel barrels..... and I think that’s all...
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MARK KIRCHER
11-20-2019, 07:07 AM
I acquired a heavy 16 ga in 2019. I had been chasing this configuration for a long time and I finally reeled it in after nearly a year of watching thanks to a fine PGCA friend.
"The Nightmare" was built in 1910 - this 16 ga VHE 32" F/F straight grip splinter with a pad was shipped to San Francisco with specific request it be built on a 1 1/2 frame and chambered 2 7/8" with 4 lbs of trigger pull.
The gun is perfect for me. It arrived in very high condition (which is frankly wasted on me as I mostly seek out guns based on configuration not condition) and I would not change a thing. I cannot see ever selling it. It will spend much time in my hands during waterfowl hunts - already recording numerous doubles in both Canada and the Vanderbilt Marsh. So far I have used 2 3/4" KM 1 1/16oz #5 loads but with the full chokes it has proven deadly on all types from big ducks to teal.
Together with my long barreled 20's -3 frame 12 and 6 frame 10 - I feel my duck and goose lineup is finally complete.
Dean Romig
11-20-2019, 07:15 AM
A great gun Mark and a wonderful lineup of waterfowl guns.
Your post makes me wonder if you ever hunted with the 26” DHE 16 I bought from you...?
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MARK KIRCHER
11-20-2019, 07:22 AM
Dean - I have scanned my history and I do not recall that gun. I have owned a very limited number of short barreled guns and the shortest 16 DHE I find was a 28" gun I sold to a friend about 5 years back. How long ago was this transaction. My records are thorough but I expect not perfect???
Dean Romig
11-20-2019, 07:33 AM
About 5 or 6 years ago. I could have sworn it was you... certainly somebody with the initials MK.... maybe Marty Koehler?
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Garry L Gordon
11-20-2019, 08:29 AM
Mark, that is a unique and impressive 16! I notice that all the guns in the picture are straight hand stocked...that must have been the result of serendipitous or lengthy searches (my guess is both), but in any event, an impressive arsenal. Enjoy your hunting. I'm sure there's great satisfaction taking a bird with any of those beauties.
Mills Morrison
11-20-2019, 09:39 AM
Salivating over Mark's pictures . . . .:envy::envy::envy:
Of course, I've "completed" my collection a few times and it has not lasted yet
roger mcmanimon
11-20-2019, 11:10 AM
Romac,
Are you the same Romac thats in the fox forum? Your collection of guns is just so impressive. So are the pictures you post over there.
Yeah, I'm the same guy. I like to keep things simple so I use the same contraction of my full name almost everywhere.
I'm glad you like some of my guns. My philosophy is this; If I work too hard to go hunting as much as I'd like to, I buy interesting toys as a reward. When things slow down I hunt more and don't need to scratch the same itch.
I tell my wife that a well diversified retirement portfolio needs at 15% - 20% of it in a gun nut 401K!
Craig Larter
11-20-2019, 11:18 AM
Bought a 16ga DHE 28 incher from Scott Gentry a few weeks back and got out today on Howland island state game lands with my two labs Nellie and Lucy.
Reggie Bishop
11-20-2019, 11:19 AM
So the Tennessee gun went North. I was curious about that one. Good buy Craig!
Ed Norman
11-20-2019, 09:50 PM
My daughter is now a 16ga. addict. She took my 30" DHE to South Dakota and has been having a ball, showing those O/U guys what a SxS can do, in a girls hands, no less.
Edgar,
I showed my wife your daughters pictures in here. My hunting buddy hap has offered to let her use a 20 gauge semi auto to try shooting. Your daughters two pictures you posted has given her some more interest. She grew up on a farm, she was the oldest of 7 kids (3 were triplets) I think the parents kind of got wore out after the triplets, so she took over a lot of responsibility especially with the triplets. She has worked hard her whole life, she really likes walking with me when I hunt, so maybe seeing your daughter hunt will give her that final "nudge" she needs to try shooting at least:)
Harold Lee Pickens
11-21-2019, 12:38 PM
sorry to say I have but 11 16 SXS's
4 parkers
3 Foxes
1 Lefever
1 Ithaca
1 Rizzini
1 German hammergun
Garry L Gordon
11-21-2019, 05:20 PM
Harold got me to thinking, so I went back to my records to count. 22 Sixteens to date (7 Parkers, the most of any maker). All have been shot, and have taken game. Long live the 16!
Harold Lee Pickens
11-21-2019, 09:31 PM
Gary, shame we didn't get to know each other when you lived in Ohio. I grew up in Belmont county
edgarspencer
11-21-2019, 09:38 PM
I grew up in Belmont county
Harold, who are you kidding? You are still young. Growing up is for old folk.
CraigThompson
11-21-2019, 09:49 PM
I hunt with a lot of different gauges but my main go to for birds is the 16g Parker or Lefever, all depends on what strikes my fancy on any given day. :)
Stan, we went crow hunting last Friday and took 27 of them. Sent quite a few away missing some feathers. Used the Browning BSS with Fiocchi Super Crushers 1 oz 7 1/2 at 1350 FPS. A bit snotty for the "vintage guns".
I like all standard gauges and own all except an 8 . But I truely enjoy 10 gauge 2 7/8” , 16’s and 28’s ( only have a pair of 28’s but I enjoy them
Just the same) . To “ME” atleast there’s something a little to plain vanilla about 12’s and 20’s as well as a lesser degree the 410 . Don’t get me wrong I like the last three I just like the other three A LOT more .
Garry L Gordon
11-21-2019, 10:14 PM
Gary, shame we didn't get to know each other when you lived in Ohio. I grew up in Belmont county
Some of my best hunting memories are of chasing grouse in the hills of SE Ohio. Oh, to have those coverts again. I know you feel the same.
Ronald Scott
11-22-2019, 01:37 PM
I love this picture. I was going to say I love this shot but the intended pun was too much. Zoom in and you can see the shot stream.
Great pic! I've been caught off guard like she was many times -- the gun doesn't quite get up where it should be. Maybe it catches on your clothing in the rush or your just too much in a hurry due to the commotion to mount the gun where it should be. Regardless, you somehow hit the target -- I say it's an exceptional skill!
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