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Rick Riddell
11-02-2019, 01:47 PM
Sorry if this has been covered, my search feature doesn’t work on my tablet. Was it standard for a gun to come with a case? We’re different cases associated with the different grades?

Mike Franzen
11-02-2019, 04:27 PM
Rick I believe cases were a separately ordered accessory. The early hammer guns could be ordered with a walnut case such as the one just sold on the for sale forum. At some point Parker began shipping the guns in labeled cardboard boxes.

Patrick Lien
11-02-2019, 07:07 PM
Check TPS volume 2 I think. It shows the cases and accessories that Parker offered. These could be ordered with a gun or separately. Sometime a factory letter will list accessories ordered with a gun.

PML

Dennis E. Jones
11-07-2019, 09:03 AM
Were Parker cases marked? I've often wondered if the canvas case that came with a Parker hammer gun I have was a Parker accessory or an after market item. Since it's not marked I've always thought it after market.

Dean Romig
11-07-2019, 09:42 AM
Were Parker cases marked? I've often wondered if the canvas case that came with a Parker hammer gun I have was a Parker accessory or an after market item. Since it's not marked I've always thought it after market.

IMO... In regard to cases that are not marked with the gunmaker’s name or logo, only a research letter alluding to a case included in the order or supplied with the gun can be considered supportive of the possibility that a case is original to a gun.






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Kevin McCormack
11-07-2019, 10:24 AM
No cases "came with" any grade Parker gun (or for that matter, any other major makers) As Dean and other posters point out, Parker Bros. being skilled merchandisers offered catalog choices ranging from the "El Cheapo" canvas sleeve with leather corners to a full-blown fitted oak & leather case similar to the best British makers. Likewise, if a request for a case came with the order for a gun, it was included and billed additionally with the rest of the order.

Bill Murphy
11-07-2019, 04:11 PM
Kevin has it right. In the order book era, pre 1919, the case could be mentioned in the order, but not likely to be mentioned in the stock book. Post 1919, mention of cases in the stock books or IBM cards would be very scarce. No Parker markings on any case I have seen, but cases pictured in pre 1900 catalogs seem to be unique to Parkers, especially the walnut cases and later leather covered "shelltop" cases. "Shelltop" refers to the compartment in the lid that contains an obscene weight of loaded shells.

Dean Romig
11-07-2019, 07:02 PM
Here are a few examples from an early Parker Brothers catalog. I don't know what year the catalog is but it discusses the availability of both Lifter Action as well as Top Action and Hammerless guns being available.


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Josh Loewensteiner
11-07-2019, 08:55 PM
I just had a gorgeous A1 Special in the 150,xxx SN range and the factory letter specified a “French Fitted Case” with a charge of $10.

Bill Murphy
11-08-2019, 06:25 AM
My Charleston "Reunited" CH two barrel Bernard set is lettered with a #38 shelltop case, which is still with the gun and has been restored by Kevin McCormack. It is an 1897 gun.

Dean Romig
11-08-2019, 07:41 AM
I have a little 24” Damascus 28 gauge DHE with a research letter that says “supply Annie Oakley style case.”
I have no idea what that style would be as it didn’t have a case when it came to me.





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Reggie Bishop
11-08-2019, 07:59 AM
That sounds like a sweet little Parker!

dave towers
03-04-2021, 02:32 PM
Hi Bill would please post some photos of your shelltop case. or send me some photos to dtowers743@aol.com
I have been collecting as mush data as I can on these type of early shelltops
thanks you. I have seen them with LC Smiths but never a parker.

Bruce Day
03-04-2021, 04:09 PM
Parker case.

edgarspencer
03-04-2021, 04:28 PM
That case maker had a boring job.

Kevin McCormack
03-04-2021, 05:23 PM
I restored the case for the first Invincible in 1995. It came from the Utica (NY) luggage company and was a traditional, best-quality oak and leather trunk case, equal then as now to the finest British maker's cases. There was no label in it per previous commenter's posts.

Bill Murphy
03-04-2021, 05:51 PM
Kevin McCormack also restored my Parker #38 case. I overextended the lid and now Kevin has to re-repair it. I think Dave Suponski has pictures of the original restoration.

Bruce Day
03-05-2021, 05:56 PM
That case maker had a boring job.

Might you have any ideas about why the straps tore off?

Dean Romig
03-05-2021, 07:41 PM
Well let’s see.... roughly 10 lbs. of ammo plus another 8-10 lbs. of shotgun would likely tax any leather strap.





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edgarspencer
03-05-2021, 08:44 PM
Might you have any ideas about why the straps tore off?

I think Dean is on to something. 123 brass shells. loaded x 2.1oz is 16 1/4lbs. Then the gun. It was too much for the old cow.

I believe I may have some very nice leather handles.

Bruce Hering
03-06-2021, 12:00 AM
I find the LOM cases to be most interesting. They are really light travel cases to my mind but very classy at the same time.

JMHO