my new Parker Trojan

[Wayne Beals]

I picked up my third Parker. Its a Trojan 12ga. with 26" bores choked IM/full. It comes with the single selective trigger and fits like a glove.

[Brian Dudley]

What type of Single trigger?

[Dean Romig]

That's a very rare configuration for a Trojan.





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[Wayne Beals]

I'm trying to figure out how to upload a photo.


http://parkerguns.org/forums/album.php?albumid=937&pictureid=12327

[Wayne Beals]

http://parkerguns.org/forums/albums/thumbs/12/39b564d4b18006d4169d5fc07f868455_12327.jpg?dl=1572 549700

[Dean Romig]

It looks like a Miller.... does it say MILLER on the sides of the trigger?





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[Wayne Beals]

Thanks Dean for the response. I looked at the whole area with a jewelers glass and no Miller name.

Was the Miller trigger after market or a Parker thing?

[Mark Ray]

can you share the serial # of that gun?

[Dean Romig]

Thanks Dean for the response. I looked at the whole area with a jewelers glass and no Miller name.

Was the Miller trigger after market or a Parker thing?


Must be a Miller knock-off then. Except for the serrations on the selector switch that an original Miller would have it looks just like a Miller SST.





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[Brian Dudley]

That is a Miller style trigger (later type with the rocker selector).

It would have been put into the gun aftermarket.

[Dean Romig]

Brian, IMO it should have the word “MILLER” stamped into the sides of the trigger and would have the serrations on the face of the selector in order to be considered genuine. In your experience have you seen a genuine Miller trigger without these features?

I think your “Miller style” is appropriate for this trigger.



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[Brian Dudley]

I do not know enough about the chronology of the Miller Trigger to know if ALL legitimate Miller Triggers had the miller name on them or not. Yes, hence my wording "miller style". Which I am sure the trigger is mechanically identical to a Miller.

[Wayne Beals]

sn# 169375

[Wayne Beals]

One question. I note the bottom plate where the trigger is has only an opening for a single trigger. Did the Miller conversion come with a non 2 trigger bottom plate to replace the 2 trigger opening / plate?

[Craig Larter]

Miller was not stamped on later Ithaca NID's before ithaca designed their own ST.

[John Dallas]

I sent a note to the Miller Trigger people, asking them if their triggers were used as original equipment on my gun which was made in the mid 20's. No response

[Brian Dudley]

One question. I note the bottom plate where the trigger is has only an opening for a single trigger. Did the Miller conversion come with a non 2 trigger bottom plate to replace the 2 trigger opening / plate?

The original trigger plate is machined to alter it for fitment of the miller trigger.

[Wayne Beals]

B.Dudly I was wondering if the orignal Parker 2 trigger system required a larger hole on the bottom plate to take both triggers. This single trigger fits very tight on the bottom plate and does not appear to have enough room for the Parker 2 trigger system to stick out of the bottom plate. I'm new at this so any help is appreciated.

[Brian Dudley]

Like I said...

[Wayne Beals]

http://parkerguns.org/forums/picture.php?albumid=938&pictureid=12331

[Craig Budgeon]

Miller trigger owner #2 told owner #3 that no records exist. In edition to the obvious machining required to fit the single trigger,drilling, machining, and welding are required internally to complete the modification. Patents have expired but copyrights are still enforced that is why copies exist without the Miller name.

[Bill Murphy]

"Copies"? Do you mean the triggers built and/or installed by the present day Miller Trigger people? I don't think they stamp their triggers, but I may be wrong. I doubt that the present day Miller Trigger Company would install their $1000 plus trigger on a $600 Trojan. Investigation continues. Personally, I have not seen a Miller trigger on a Parker without the "Miller" marking, but here we have one, apparently.

[Craig Budgeon]

Bill you would be shocked what people are willing to spend on there A grade Ithaca Lefevers much less a Parker Trojan. A $1000+ won't get you a copy of a Miller trigger much less a real one. Yes, Miller is stamped on current REAL installations.

[Brian Dudley]

"Copies"? Do you mean the triggers built and/or installed by the present day Miller Trigger people? I don't think they stamp their triggers, but I may be wrong. I doubt that the present day Miller Trigger Company would install their $1000 plus trigger on a $600 Trojan. Investigation continues. Personally, I have not seen a Miller trigger on a Parker without the "Miller" marking, but here we have one, apparently.


Yes, i have seen a few Parkers with Miller triggers that were not marked. Being that they were installed by others or they were just of the same design.

The highest quality Miller install I have ever seen in person was on a 20g Trojan. The gun was also restocked in Straight grip and converted to an ejector gun. I suspect that Lefever may have done the work. The trigger install was CLEAN and done right! Certainly not by the Miller Brothers. Those guys were Crude to say the least.

Why would Dan not install a new miller in a Trojan? If the owner wants to dump that money on such a gun, I am she Dan would accommodate the job.

[Craig Budgeon]

Great response Brian! Of the 4 or 5 installations I have witnessed all that I can recall had the Miller stamp. I don't know any businessman that turned away work because his/her effort wasn't worth the cost.

[Wayne Beals]

One thing I can say about this trigger is that it is very smooth and breaks very crisp. The positioning of the trigger is perfect for me. The selection bar works very well and has crisp sections. I am very impressed with this "after market" trigger. I have checked several times and still see no trigger marking. Thanks for all the information guys.