Letter for 31436 D TL Hammer from Morphy's

[Craig Larter]

Here is the letter on the gun nothing special. Since it was made in 1883 the gun should incorporate all of the 1882 design changes, dolls head, large extractors, check hook, plunger firing pins. It does have shootable dimensions for me and still weights 10lbs 4 ozs. Fingers crossed I can make it into a shooter. I get as excited about buying one of these old war horse guns as I do high condition high grade guns.

[Milton C Starr]

Here is the letter on the gun nothing special. Since it was made in 1883 the gun should incorporate all of the 1882 design changes, dolls head, large extractors, check hook, plunger firing pins. It does have shootable dimensions for me and still weights 10lbs 4 ozs. Fingers crossed I can make it into a shooter. I get as excited about buying one of these old war horse guns as I do high condition high grade guns.

Glad someone here picked that one up , I had thought of bidding on it but I new a Parker collector wasnt going to let a #4 frame 10 ga slip by that easily haha . Hope to hear how the bores turn out , they didnt really give much description on them . Ive found a similar one to that but in higher condition however it probably cost x5 as much also . I have seen probably more #2 frame 10 gauges than #4s . Any idea on the barrel thickness at the breech ? They look pretty beefy .

[Craig Larter]

Thanks Milton. Good buy in my opinion if it's a shooter. Will report back when I have the gun in hand.

[Milton C Starr]

Thanks Milton. Good buy in my opinion if it's a shooter. Will report back when I have the gun in hand.

I hope it is a shooter , the large frame parkers are my favorite doubles to read about . Fingers crossed you can get it back into field conditions . Ive read that grade 3 top actions are sought after and it being a #4 frame makes it that much more interesting to me .

There was also a 10lb 10ga PH I think it was in that same auction . Wonder if anyone here got it as well .

[Bill Murphy]

Tell us the item number, Milton. I liked several Parkers in that sale, but I have something in the mail now and don't need another right now. I assume Craig's new Grade 3 is a three lug with doll's head.

[Milton C Starr]

Tell us the item number, Milton. I liked several Parkers in that sale, but I have something in the mail now and don't need another right now. I assume Craig's new Grade 3 is a three lug with doll's head.

It was this one https://auctions.morphyauctions.com/mobile/LotDetail.aspx?inventoryid=467953

Looked like a nice heavy hammerless 10 gauge , most hammerless 10s I see are in the 9lb range . It was a GH , dont know why I thought it was a PH .

[CraigThompson]

It was this one https://auctions.morphyauctions.com/mobile/LotDetail.aspx?inventoryid=467953

Looked like a nice heavy hammerless 10 gauge , most hammerless 10s I see are in the 9lb range . It was a GH , dont know why I thought it was a PH .

I threw a bid or two after that GH as well , but I already have three EH’s and a GH 10 .

[CraigThompson]

Here is the letter on the gun nothing special. Since it was made in 1883 the gun should incorporate all of the 1882 design changes, dolls head, large extractors, check hook, plunger firing pins. It does have shootable dimensions for me and still weights 10lbs 4 ozs. Fingers crossed I can make it into a shooter. I get as excited about buying one of these old war horse guns as I do high condition high grade guns.

Well sinice I didn’t get it I’m glad I didn’t order a letter before the auction as I was thinking about doing :whistle:

[CraigThompson]

I hope it is a shooter , the large frame parkers are my favorite doubles to read about . Fingers crossed you can get it back into field conditions . Ive read that grade 3 top actions are sought after and it being a #4 frame makes it that much more interesting to me .

There was also a 10lb 10ga PH I think it was in that same auction . Wonder if anyone here got it as well .

I bid on the PH as well or was it an NH that was supposed to be 10 pounds . Went for $500-550 if memory serves . The auction also stated it had a loose hinge pin and that kinda turned me off .

[Milton C Starr]

I threw a bid or two after that GH as well , but I already have three EH’s and a GH 10 .

Ive debated a hammerless 10 ga Parker but I'm saving money back for a lifter. I have seen quite a few nice 10 ga hammerless guns mostly PHs it seems .

[CraigThompson]

Ive debated a hammerless 10 ga Parker but I'm saving money back for a lifter. I have seen quite a few nice 10 ga hammerless guns mostly PHs it seems .

I have an NH 10 as well just like the EH/GH more . Over the last six months I picked up three DH 10’s and I honestly like the engraving on the EH/GH more then the DH .

[Milton C Starr]

I have an NH 10 as well just like the EH/GH more . Over the last six months I picked up three DH 10’s and I honestly like the engraving on the EH/GH more then the DH .

There was about 5 or 6 hammerless 10 ga Parkers on gunbroker about 2 weeks ago but seems the seller removed all of his listings . I think one of them was a EH , one was 6k so about twice as much as his other hammerless ones cant remember the grade though .

Was the PH the most common 10 ga hammerless ? I see those for sale more than any other grade . Im not familiar with all the grades yet , im planning to buy a G grade lifter but I like the PH 10s as well , im a minimalist kind of guy .

[Craig Larter]

Morphy's cashed my check a week ago but they have not shipped the gun.In the amazon world waiting 7 to 14 days for a gun is a killer.

[Randy G Roberts]

Morphy's cashed my check a week ago but they have not shipped the gun.In the amazon world waiting 7 to 14 days for a gun is a killer.

You can fondle that new CH Bernard in the interim while you are waiting. Under those circumstances I am having a hard time finding pity for you in this case brother :)

[Craig Larter]

So I received 31406. Barrels are pitted as advertised about the same as my other D #6 frame (bad but not the worst I have seen!!!) Measurements are right barrel bore .807, wall at 9" .079, min wall .041, choke .040: left bore .822, wall at 9" .079, min wall .041, choke .051.
It needs a new bolt and to be put on face at some point it is shootable as is but I want it right. The right hammer is loose but I don't have a screw driver bit thin enough to tighten, it may need some welding work. The firing pin springs are broken. I intend to give it a good cleaning and add some finish to the wood that's about it. Cool old ducker, I can't imagine how many ducks this gun has killed but I do intend to extend it's long life in the marsh.
So to complete my collection of old tired duck guns, I would like to add a 5 frame D 10 gauge, they seem to weight around 12lbs.

[CraigThompson]

So I received 31406. Barrels are pitted as advertised about the same as my other D #6 frame (bad but not the worst I have seen!!!) Measurements are right barrel bore .807, wall at 9" .079, min wall .041, choke .040: left bore .822, wall at 9" .079, min wall .041, choke .051.
It needs a new bolt and to be put on face at some point it is shootable as is but I want it right. The right hammer is loose but I don't have a screw driver bit thin enough to tighten, it may need some welding work. The firing pin springs are broken. I intend to give it a good cleaning and add some finish to the wood that's about it. Cool old ducker, I can't imagine how many ducks this gun has killed but I do intend to extend it's long life in the marsh.
So to complete my collection of old tired duck guns, I would like to add a 5 frame D 10 gauge, they seem to weight around 12lbs.

Have you got a 3 frame grade 3 top lever 10 already ?

[Craig Larter]

Bottom gun is 31406, top gun is my #6 frame 10, not a great picture.
Craig I'm not interested in a 3 frame D just because they are common. My real interest is in the big guns built on frames larger than standard.

[Brian Dudley]

Craig, most of these guns do not have firing pin springs. The pins float. That pin is likely just seized up with gunk.

[Craig Larter]

OK thanks Brian I did not realize that. A little Hoppies and they are good now. I put a .003 shim in the hinge and the gun is good to go until I get it put back on face correctly.

[CraigThompson]

Bottom gun is 31406, top gun is my #6 frame 10, not a great picture.
Craig I'm not interested in a 3 frame D just because they are common. My real interest is in the big guns built on frames larger than standard.

Now that picture is enlightening to say the least ! I had thought my 0 grade 4 frame was a bit cumbersome but I can just imagine getting that six frame going after a goose or duck or clay target or whatever :cool:

[Craig Larter]

Update on the 4 frame D. I bought it for $1860. The hinge and bolt need to be welded and fitted, $450. From Turnbull. The hammer screws need to be replaced and engraved $110. I added timberlux to the wood to seal up the wood. So I have $2420. In the gun. Not great but OK for what it is. Putting more money into it would be a waste in my opinion. Lightly recuting the checkering and re doing the barrels would cost another $600 to $800. So then I would be i
nto the gun for 3k to 3.2k. To much in my opinion but what say you?

[Garry L Gordon]

Update on the 4 frame D. I bought it for $1860. The hinge and bolt need to be welded and fitted, $450. From Turnbull. The hammer screws need to be replaced and engraved $110. I added timberlux to the wood to seal up the wood. So I have $2420. In the gun. Not great but OK for what it is. Putting more money into it would be a waste in my opinion. Lightly recuting the checkering and re doing the barrels would cost another $600 to $800. So then I would be i
nto the gun for 3k to 3.2k. To much in my opinion but what say you?

Ignore my comment, as when I fall in love with a gun, I don't compute the add-ons, BUT...I'd make it like I like it and hang the dollar issues if I can afford them. Make it meet your desires, and keep it. Whoever you leave it to can deal with the cost-value issues.

[Brian Dudley]

The gun is something that you were looking for, and you are making it fully functional so you can enjoy it.
Given what the gun is, any further cosmetic work would not be a wise investment.

[Garry L Gordon]

So you've gotten the pragmatic and poetic sides of this. It will be interesting to see where you go. I don't think you can make a poor decision on that fine gun.

[charlie cleveland]

i have never given to much for a parker that i wanted....charlie